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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:24 am

cracka wrote:The first comment at the top of this pages takes a whole new turn

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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Brodlach » Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:25 am

15 clubs have had nothing raised externally, I hope it remains that way because there is nothing to be raised
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Dutchy » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:09 am

Just staggering that this has occurred in recent times, sounds like something that would have occurred in the 70's or 80's.
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Mr Beefy » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:10 am

Brodlach wrote:
MW wrote:It should blow up but let’s see how the Melbourne media handle this…
Makes the camp look like a day care


Not sure we can throw any stones, best for Crows supporters to keep quiet IMO

I'm not too sure any club's supporters can throw stones - I'm sure there are skeletons at most clubs
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby whufc » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:19 am

Dutchy wrote:Just staggering that this has occurred in recent times, sounds like something that would have occurred in the 70's or 80's.


Sounds like some AFL clubs are living back in that era. Very worrying for the AFL with Collingwood, Hawthorn, Crows all being involved in issues regarding treatment of indigenous players.
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby MW » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:20 am

Mr Beefy wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
MW wrote:It should blow up but let’s see how the Melbourne media handle this…
Makes the camp look like a day care


Not sure we can throw any stones, best for Crows supporters to keep quiet IMO

I'm not too sure any club's supporters can throw stones - I'm sure there are skeletons at most clubs


Supporters can be as critical as they like, they do not commit the offenses their clubs are guilty of.
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:22 am

Dutchy wrote:Just staggering that this has occurred in recent times, sounds like something that would have occurred in the 70's or 80's.


The AFL and society have come a long way in this space
Still a long way to go but talking about it is a good thing.
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby whufc » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:30 am

amber_fluid wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Just staggering that this has occurred in recent times, sounds like something that would have occurred in the 70's or 80's.


The AFL and society have come a long way in this space
Still a long way to go but talking about it is a good thing.


A very very very long way to go still......i'm staggered with the stuff coming out in recent times. I must be living in a shell.
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Jim05 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:09 pm

The AFL has had the report for over a week and sat on it.
Was likely never going to be released.
Shocked to be sitting here.

AFL now appointing a panel including a KC to go over it and hasn’t ruled out standing down those involved
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Bum Crack » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:22 pm

So what happens to Clarko if this is all found to be true? Surely he won't be coaching next year?
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Brodlach » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:23 pm

Bum Crack wrote:So what happens to Clarko if this is all found to be true? Surely he won't be coaching next year?

Fagan would have been there too.
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Bum Crack » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:26 pm

Brodlach wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:So what happens to Clarko if this is all found to be true? Surely he won't be coaching next year?

Fagan would have been there too.

Yep he was. The boss will cop it more though I would have thought?
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby MW » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:31 pm

You'd think Karl Amon is having second thoughts?
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Arch44 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:38 pm

MW wrote:You'd think Karl Amon is having second thoughts?


Maybe, but its also happened under previous leaderships Clarko Fagan etc. Impey and Chad are still there and Burgoyne played right to the end. Mitchell had reportedly stated previously that he's looking at and started mending bridges with Cyril, so hopefully that mindset is long gone and can be reinforced into future recruiting.

Being a member I am very disappointed but remain optimistic the club can grow from it, handle it respectfully and make the right decisions.
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Spargo » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:40 pm

Brodlach wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:So what happens to Clarko if this is all found to be true? Surely he won't be coaching next year?

Fagan would have been there too.

I’m struggling to accept Clarkson & Fagan could do what they’ve been accused of.
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby am Bays » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:41 pm

This is as big as the Melbourne tanking saga, Essendon drug saga and Adelaide Camp Saga

That did not end well for the coaches and their clubs and even the clubs that they had gone to (Adelaide)

If the allegations are validated you cant see Fagan or Clarkson coaching in 2023 or if you believe Mark Robinson ever again
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby MW » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:42 pm

Spargo wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:So what happens to Clarko if this is all found to be true? Surely he won't be coaching next year?

Fagan would have been there too.

I’m struggling to accept Clarkson & Fagan could do what they’ve been accused of.


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Re: Hawthorn

Postby whufc » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:48 pm

am Bays wrote:This is as big as the Melbourne tanking saga, Essendon drug saga and Adelaide Camp Saga

That did not end well for the coaches and their clubs and even the clubs that they had gone to (Adelaide)

If the allegations are validated you cant see Fagan or Clarkson coaching in 2023 or if you believe Mark Robinson ever again


Yeah 100% agree.

Should be massive implications IF TRUE

Completely horrendous situation...........i thought as Australians we were much better than that but to read even people in priviledged and respected positions in this country (which imo anyone involved at the pointy end of an AFL club is) could have at any level thought it was ok boggles my mind. Days like today really make me question how far have we actually come.
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:52 pm

No mention of Jeff Kennett.
Where does he sit with all this?
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Re: Hawthorn

Postby Booney » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:58 pm

am Bays wrote:This is as big as the Melbourne tanking saga, Essendon drug saga and Adelaide Camp Saga

That did not end well for the coaches and their clubs and even the clubs that they had gone to (Adelaide)

If the allegations are validated you cant see Fagan or Clarkson coaching in 2023 or if you believe Mark Robinson ever again


Not even comparable to them in the slightest.
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