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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby RB » Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:39 pm

I'm fortunate not to have to work on weekends or public holidays.

I'm very happy for those who do to be compensated accordingly for working unsociable hours.

Re public holidays in particular, about 353 out of 365 days are not public holidays in SA this year.

I personally can handle the shops being closed for 12 days out of 365, especially since we've known which days they're going to be closed for, like, forever.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:39 pm

tipper wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Perhaps all workplaces should close Saturday and Sunday so “we” all can spend time with our families


great idea. do it. cant think of a worse way to spend my weekend than going shopping.


Who wants to go anywhere near a shopping centre at all, let alone on a weekend.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby tipper » Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:47 pm

Booney wrote:
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Brodlach wrote:Perhaps all workplaces should close Saturday and Sunday so “we” all can spend time with our families


great idea. do it. cant think of a worse way to spend my weekend than going shopping.


Who wants to go anywhere near a shopping centre at all, let alone on a weekend.


my kids, apparently...
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:56 pm

RB wrote:I'm fortunate not to have to work on weekends or public holidays.

I'm very happy for those who do to be compensated accordingly for working unsociable hours.

Re public holidays in particular, about 353 out of 365 days are not public holidays in SA this year.

I personally can handle the shops being closed for 12 days out of 365, especially since we've known which days they're going to be closed for, like, forever.


What's the definition of unsociable?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Brodlach » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:01 pm

I could debate this for hours but

A 17 year old kid goes to school during the week so only can work weekends, why should they be paid more than a 30 year old bloke supporting a family because of penalty rates?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:05 pm

Spargo wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Booney wrote:Just because the world operates for 7 days a week now doesn't make Saturday or Sunday any less valuable.

amber_fluid wrote:I’m with you here as I’m not working weekends either


You should, you'd have plenty of free time to buy your meat.


I need to give the wife something to complain about…………..

Yeah, coz that’d be a short list…


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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:08 pm

tipper wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
tipper wrote:
"we" most certainly are not.

my work is currently trying to bring in saturday openings. i certainly wont be doing any weekends, regardless of how they try to spin it. spending time with the wife and kids is way more important to me than my job.


I’m with you here as I’m not working weekends either but there are others who would be willing here to work as that suits their family environment.

Plus it will create extra jobs if needed(at a cost I know).


how will it create more jobs?

the rest of us arent going to magically have more money to spend because the shops are open more hours.

we will be spending the same amount, over a longer timeframe, which will increase the cost of shops doing business, for no monetary gain. all it will do is increase inflation, as shops will have to raise prices to cover their extra opening hours

Brodlach wrote:Perhaps all workplaces should close Saturday and Sunday so “we” all can spend time with our families


great idea. do it. cant think of a worse way to spend my weekend than going shopping.


how will it create new jobs?
Some one needs to work the weekend hours that you don’t.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Brodlach » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:13 pm

We don’t magically have more money to spend by opening up on public holidays either but Amber needs to get his meat. .
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby RB » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:13 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
RB wrote:I'm fortunate not to have to work on weekends or public holidays.

I'm very happy for those who do to be compensated accordingly for working unsociable hours.

Re public holidays in particular, about 353 out of 365 days are not public holidays in SA this year.

I personally can handle the shops being closed for 12 days out of 365, especially since we've known which days they're going to be closed for, like, forever.


What's the definition of unsociable?


Without being too scientific about it, nights, weekends and public holidays.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Brodlach » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:14 pm

RB wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:
RB wrote:I'm fortunate not to have to work on weekends or public holidays.

I'm very happy for those who do to be compensated accordingly for working unsociable hours.

Re public holidays in particular, about 353 out of 365 days are not public holidays in SA this year.

I personally can handle the shops being closed for 12 days out of 365, especially since we've known which days they're going to be closed for, like, forever.


What's the definition of unsociable?


Without being too scientific about it, nights, weekends and public holidays.



So pubs, restaurant, movie theater workers should be on penalty rates during the week too?
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:18 pm

Brodlach wrote:We don’t magically have more money to spend by opening up on public holidays either but Amber needs to get his meat. .


Finally someone gets it!
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby RB » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:22 pm

Brodlach wrote:I could debate this for hours but

A 17 year old kid goes to school during the week so only can work weekends, why should they be paid more than a 30 year old bloke supporting a family because of penalty rates?


If the 17 year old is working weekends, and the 30 year old is working M-F, then we're comparing apples with oranges.

The 30 year old is free to work Sundays if he wishes and absolutely earns the extra rate for doing so, in my opinion.

In any event, a 17 year old working in retail would generally not be on adult rates so may not be getting paid all that much more.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:29 pm

penalty rates are for unsociable hours, like weekends and nights etc
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby RB » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:34 pm

Brodlach wrote:
RB wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:What's the definition of unsociable?


Without being too scientific about it, nights, weekends and public holidays.


So pubs, restaurant, movie theater workers should be on penalty rates during the week too?


As a general proposition, yes I think those workers should be compensated accordingly for time worked late at night, whether that be through penalty rates, or just baked into their basic hourly wage.

I have thought for a long time that hospitality workers are some of our hardest working, and worst paid, given the work involved.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby heater31 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:36 pm

Brodlach wrote:We don’t magically have more money to spend by opening up on public holidays either but Amber needs to get his meat. .



Amber should build a huge freezer room in his shed and get into whole animal butchery and then never run out of meat [emoji6]
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:45 pm

heater31 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:We don’t magically have more money to spend by opening up on public holidays either but Amber needs to get his meat. .



Amber should build a huge freezer room in his shed and get into whole animal butchery and then never run out of meat [emoji6]

Can maybe transform MT's sauna into a freezer so at least it gets used.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Brodlach » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:50 pm

An industry I know very well (not me or my family) , worker is paid $30.31 for her hours Monday to Friday and has the extra responsibility that comes with being a full time worker during the week; 22 year old Uni student (can only work weekends due to Uni) who just does the bare minimum is on $62.58 per hour with zero responsibility.

The system is wrong, paid more because that’s the only hours they can work.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:55 pm

Brodlach wrote:An industry I know very well (not me or my family) , worker is paid $30.31 for her hours Monday to Friday and has the extra responsibility that comes with being a full time worker during the week; 22 year old Uni student (can only work weekends due to Uni) who just does the bare minimum is on $62.58 per hour with zero responsibility.

The system is wrong, paid more because that’s the only hours they can work.


She’ll probably do a 2nd degree working those hours and rates.
No incentive to finish her degree and get out in the real workforce.
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:56 pm

PatowalongaPirate wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:We don’t magically have more money to spend by opening up on public holidays either but Amber needs to get his meat. .



Amber should build a huge freezer room in his shed and get into whole animal butchery and then never run out of meat [emoji6]

Can maybe transform MT's sauna into a freezer so at least it gets used.


I’m not putting my meat near his hairy arse!
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Re: Things that give you the sh1ts

Postby Jimmy_041 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:03 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:penalty rates are for unsociable hours, like weekends and nights etc


My opinion is they used to be unsociable hours.
How many contact hours does an undergraduate have these days?
How many uni students actually go to uni all day like we used to? Most of it was spent in the uni bar
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