Australian International Season 2022/23

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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby mal » Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:38 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
am Bays wrote:Based on the intensity and urgency in the field by the Saffers, I think we’ve got enough now.

As we all know with the recent retirees big issues in South African cricket

This side is as bad as their 1931-32 team which got pants 5-0

Thoughts @mal?


1931-1932 team
Half agree with aB
They have probably sent the worst SA batting side to reach these shores since the 1931-1932 series

2022-2023 team
The current fast bowlers are very good though thats why I can only half agree

1910-1911 team
SA were up against it in the 1910-1911 series- so a bit hard to rate the bowlers
AU had 3 champion batsmen in that series Clem Hill, Charlie Macartney and Victor Trumper
The great Clarrie Grimmett once said that Charlie Mac was as good a batsman as Donald Bradman
The difference was Charlie would eventually throw his wicket away, whereas the Don kept batting on and on and on
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:42 pm

am Bays wrote:According to Neil Manthorp there’s 5-6 players who could easily be in this side of available. They’ve got 50-60 players choosing to play overseas on lesser competitions which effects their 1st class cricket

We went four years without winning a test series in the 80s due to unavailability of the likes of Rackerman, Alderman, Hohns, Dyson and others.

Any time a team knows it’s playing without its best players it’s always up against it mentally


I wonder who those players are, De Kock would be one
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:14 pm

Armchair expert wrote:
am Bays wrote:According to Neil Manthorp there’s 5-6 players who could easily be in this side of available. They’ve got 50-60 players choosing to play overseas on lesser competitions which effects their 1st class cricket

We went four years without winning a test series in the 80s due to unavailability of the likes of Rackerman, Alderman, Hohns, Dyson and others.

Any time a team knows it’s playing without its best players it’s always up against it mentally


I wonder who those players are, De Kock would be one

He mentioned Kyle Abbott being another but it might not get a game ahead of Rabada, Nortje and now Jansen?
So there's 2 out 5/6, who are the other 3/4?
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:19 pm

Smith continuing knocking records off #runmachine

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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby batmanbegins » Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:48 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:
am Bays wrote:According to Neil Manthorp there’s 5-6 players who could easily be in this side of available. They’ve got 50-60 players choosing to play overseas on lesser competitions which effects their 1st class cricket

We went four years without winning a test series in the 80s due to unavailability of the likes of Rackerman, Alderman, Hohns, Dyson and others.

Any time a team knows it’s playing without its best players it’s always up against it mentally


I wonder who those players are, De Kock would be one

He mentioned Kyle Abbott being another but it might not get a game ahead of Rabada, Nortje and now Jansen?
So there's 2 out 5/6, who are the other 3/4?


Keegan Peterson there number 3. He looked good against India. Personally I have no clue why they didn't pick Markram for this tour, he's suited to aus pitches. They also have to fill there quota otherwise Zondo wouldn't play as they have plenty better bats then him in first class cricket.
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:08 am

batmanbegins wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:
am Bays wrote:According to Neil Manthorp there’s 5-6 players who could easily be in this side of available. They’ve got 50-60 players choosing to play overseas on lesser competitions which effects their 1st class cricket

We went four years without winning a test series in the 80s due to unavailability of the likes of Rackerman, Alderman, Hohns, Dyson and others.

Any time a team knows it’s playing without its best players it’s always up against it mentally


I wonder who those players are, De Kock would be one

He mentioned Kyle Abbott being another but it might not get a game ahead of Rabada, Nortje and now Jansen?
So there's 2 out 5/6, who are the other 3/4?


Keegan Peterson there number 3. He looked good against India. Personally I have no clue why they didn't pick Markram for this tour, he's suited to aus pitches. They also have to fill there quota otherwise Zondo wouldn't play as they have plenty better bats then him in first class cricket.

Markham didn't get picked because of his recent test form, struggled against England, New Zealand, India and West Indies. Have a look at his recent scores.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... ew=innings
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:23 am

Pouring with rain ATM
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby whufc » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:28 am

Draw has gone into $1.82 on Sportsbet.

The $4 offered earlier really was a gift given the weather forecast.

Puts the Aussies in a bit of a predicament. Guessing they would have batted for half an hour this morning, get Uzzy his double century,

If the first session is rained out, are they going to waste another 20 minutes and 5-10 overs (including overs lost for change of innings) getting Uzzy to his double century.
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:39 am

Mark Taylor who is at the ground doubts there will be much play today
July 11th 2012....
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby whufc » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:41 am

Brodlach wrote:Mark Taylor who is at the ground doubts there will be much play today


Australia should declare now. Then both teams declare 0/0 and just set South Africa 475 to win in 2 days.

SAF have no other way they can win and well for the aussies a draw/loss means nothing but a win gets them into the WTC final.
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby The Bedge » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:46 am

whufc wrote: for the aussies a draw/loss means nothing but a win gets them into the WTC final.

Pretty sure Australia already qualified for the WTC final. Sri Lanka only have one more test series against NZ to go.
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby whufc » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:04 am

The Bedge wrote:
whufc wrote: for the aussies a draw/loss means nothing but a win gets them into the WTC final.

Pretty sure Australia already qualified for the WTC final. Sri Lanka only have one more test series against NZ to go.


You could be right.

I thought i read somewhere that we needed to win the series 3-0 to guarantee it but could be wrong.
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby whufc » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:07 am

Yeah need the clean sweep to 'guarentee'

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/austral ... 2023-01-03

I think whilst Sri Lanka only have one more series we have the India tour which could see us 'lose' win percentage which is what the standings are based on.

If we were to draw this test and lose in India 4 nil we would finish:

Played 19
Won 10
Lost 5
Drawn 4
Points 136 (12 win, 4 draw, 0 loss)
Points Percentage- 59.64 (136 out of a possible 228 pts)

If Sri Lanka were to win against New Zealand they would go up to 61%
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby stampy » Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:41 am

the draw into $1.57, glad i took the fivefiddy
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby jackpot jim » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:35 pm

Has the Sydney Test Match become the most under whelming event on the Australian cricket calendar?
Regularly seems to be a DEAD rubber Test , Regularly disrupted by rain and Regularly played on a slow lifeless pitch.

As much as the Big Bash tournament is generally rubbish , it actually seems to become relevant during the Sydney Tests as a viable and interesting alternative to watch for the above reasons.
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:42 pm

Fox Cricket mentioned Wednesday that we only needed a one draw from our four games to make the final
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby RB » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:46 pm

Either move Docklands Stadium to Sydney, or give the Sydney test to a city where it doesn't rain all summer.
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby Trader » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:02 pm

South Africa at risk of losing their 47 test streak without a draw.
They should throw this match on purpose just to keep it alive.
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:38 pm

Play abandoned for the day
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Re: Australian International Season 2022/23

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:39 pm

Trader wrote:South Africa at risk of losing their 47 test streak without a draw.
They should throw this match on purpose just to keep it alive.

Hansie isnt alive though
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