2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

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Who will win the D2 Premiership?

Adelaide Uni
2
7%
Athelstone
2
7%
Edwardstown
1
3%
Golden Grove
11
38%
Henley
3
10%
North Haven
5
17%
PHOS Camden
1
3%
PNU
0
No votes
ROCS
2
7%
Salisbury North
2
7%
 
Total votes : 29

Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby jake the snake » Sun May 14, 2023 10:01 am

One of the season permits
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby beef » Sun May 14, 2023 10:04 am

Jamie Jones zero points??
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby The Bedge » Sun May 14, 2023 10:16 am

Oh dear. Lonaragan and Jones. Bad miss.
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby The Dark Knight » Sun May 14, 2023 12:00 pm

The Bedge wrote:Oh dear. Lonaragan and Jones. Bad miss.
How many points should Loneragen be? Played at South Adelaide in 2021?
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby jo172 » Sun May 14, 2023 12:13 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Oh dear. Lonaragan and Jones. Bad miss.
How many points should Loneragen be? Played at South Adelaide in 2021?


3 I would have thought?
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby jo172 » Sun May 14, 2023 12:14 pm

Suppose you’re better off getting stung in round 4 than round 15.

Can still get back to where they were
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby The Bedge » Sun May 14, 2023 1:55 pm

jo172 wrote:Suppose you’re better off getting stung in round 4 than round 15.

Can still get back to where they were

Was it Kilburn back in around 2013 who had similar? Then went on a massive heater and won the flag after being stripped off all their points?
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby Footy Chick » Sun May 14, 2023 5:34 pm

The Bedge wrote:
jo172 wrote:Suppose you’re better off getting stung in round 4 than round 15.

Can still get back to where they were

Was it Kilburn back in around 2013 who had similar? Then went on a massive heater and won the flag after being stripped off all their points?


And also Salisbury West in 2006 after starting the year on minus points as part of the previous years' GF penalty(Not APPS related)

From (my really bad) memory, it was -6 they started on
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby jo172 » Sun May 14, 2023 5:50 pm

The Bedge wrote:
jo172 wrote:Suppose you’re better off getting stung in round 4 than round 15.

Can still get back to where they were

Was it Kilburn back in around 2013 who had similar? Then went on a massive heater and won the flag after being stripped off all their points?


Might have been earlier, feel like PNU was in that div, maybe 2012?
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby jo172 » Sun May 14, 2023 5:55 pm

Footy Chick wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
jo172 wrote:Suppose you’re better off getting stung in round 4 than round 15.

Can still get back to where they were

Was it Kilburn back in around 2013 who had similar? Then went on a massive heater and won the flag after being stripped off all their points?


And also Salisbury West in 2006 after starting the year on minus points as part of the previous years' GF penalty(Not APPS related)

From (my really bad) memory, it was -6 they started on


Hard to picture but wonder what the penalty would be now for that.

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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby beef » Mon May 15, 2023 2:12 pm

Play HQ ladder showing Salisbury North now 1-3 and all scores wiped for first 3 rounds
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby jo172 » Mon May 15, 2023 2:16 pm

I realise there's likely no "good" way to do it, but always thought the wiping of the scores a bit problematic in terms of how it adjusts percentages
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby Pag » Mon May 15, 2023 2:28 pm

jo172 wrote:I realise there's likely no "good" way to do it, but always thought the wiping of the scores a bit problematic in terms of how it adjusts percentages

Agreed. Already gives a handy leg up to the the teams that were 'lucky' enough to cop them on those particular weeks. Give them the points, fair enough, but not the extra percentage. Uni jumped 11% and Athelstone 9%, almost an extra win if they land equal on points with someone comes finals time.
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby beef » Mon May 15, 2023 2:37 pm

Pag wrote:
jo172 wrote:I realise there's likely no "good" way to do it, but always thought the wiping of the scores a bit problematic in terms of how it adjusts percentages

Agreed. Already gives a handy leg up to the the teams that were 'lucky' enough to cop them on those particular weeks. Give them the points, fair enough, but not the extra percentage. Uni jumped 11% and Athelstone 9%, almost an extra win if they land equal on points with someone comes finals time.

Dont worry mate, GG will still be 17-1 and in div 1 next year with more AFL players, a bit of % to a couple teams wont matter.
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby Pag » Mon May 15, 2023 2:44 pm

beef wrote:
Pag wrote:
jo172 wrote:I realise there's likely no "good" way to do it, but always thought the wiping of the scores a bit problematic in terms of how it adjusts percentages

Agreed. Already gives a handy leg up to the the teams that were 'lucky' enough to cop them on those particular weeks. Give them the points, fair enough, but not the extra percentage. Uni jumped 11% and Athelstone 9%, almost an extra win if they land equal on points with someone comes finals time.

Dont worry mate, GG will still be 17-1 and in div 1 next year with more AFL players, a bit of % to a couple teams wont matter.

Fairly sure I didn't mention GG? Would've thought any of PNU, GG, PHOS, Towns, etc would be disadvantaged a bit now.

Havens may be the only ones not affected directly at this stage.
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby The Bedge » Mon May 15, 2023 3:03 pm

Havens & Henley suffer - they fall deeper into the relegation zone with ROCs getting a win they didn’t deserve.
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby Pag » Mon May 15, 2023 3:11 pm

The Bedge wrote:Havens & Henley suffer - they fall deeper into the relegation zone with ROCs getting a win they didn’t deserve.

Fair point.
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon May 15, 2023 7:13 pm

Adelaide Footy League club Salisbury North docked premiership points

An Adelaide Footy League club has been docked almost all of its accrued premiership points so far this season after breaching the approved player points system.

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An Adelaide Footy League club has been stripped of almost all of its premiership points so far this season after breaching the approved player points system.

Salisbury North has been docked six premiership points and percentage from the first three weeks of the season after exceeding the player point limit – used to sign players – of 15.

The Adelaide Footy League last week became aware it needed to look at clubs’ points through an APPS audit conducted by the SA Community Football League.

The Hawks were found to have exceeded the 15-point limit.

In a letter to all division two clubs from the league, chief John Kernahan said the club had cooperated seamlessly to reach an outcome.

“The SNFC have paid a heavy price for a relatively innocuous oversight. But the SNFC have owned their part in this without question which has allowed us to collaborate with SANFL and draw this matter to a close citing absolute cooperation in their (SNFC) very transparent explanation of the breach,” Kernahan said.

“As a result, SNFC have been penalised the premiership points and percentage accrued from the first 3 weeks of the season and results have been amended reflecting a revised ladder. The potential for fines or availability of APPS points have been set aside due to the club’s cooperation.

“It is also opportune to flag from the outset that Audits of APPS values for all AdFL Clubs will continue by both SACFL and the AdFL as matter of priority.”

The points certain players (AFL, SANFL, affiliated amateur league club etc) are worth is stipulated under the current Approved Player Points System.

Clubs and players also need to present a signed declaration to the league including a player’s playing history and an assessment of the player points rating of that player calculated under the APPS.

The development comes just after division three club Gaza was investigated for alleged breaches of the salary cap.

Salisbury North was previously undefeated this season, but is now 1-3 and sits third bottom
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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby Brodlach » Mon May 15, 2023 7:35 pm

Why was the discussion on this removed? It was very civil.


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Re: 2023 Adelaide Footy League - Division 2

Postby The Bedge » Tue May 16, 2023 10:32 am

Brodlach wrote:Why was the discussion on this removed? It was very civil.


Or am I going nuts?

I can't see anything removed?
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