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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:52 am

shoe boy wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Bazball works by smashing the bowlers, having the fielding captain not holding their nerve and spreading the field. Then the easy 1s and 2s are there to keep the score ticking over


Bring on the Ashes in our back yard 2025


The two sides, based on ages not form, will be markedly different apart from England's batting which could be almost identical if Pope regains his place.

Out for the Aussies IMO will be Warner, Khawaja, Smith (will retire this summer), Hazelwood, probably Starc, Bolland and Head. Barring injury, I think Lyon will still be there.

The English bowling will be completely different too. Tongue and maybe Robinson the only one who played this series who might be there

Will the faster and truer pitches help the English batting or will the extra pace find out the techniques? Will the bigger ovals be harder to defend 4's, but see some of those sixes on small ovals be catches?
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby JK » Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:53 am

Booney wrote:The fact another miserable English summer cost them the Ashes brings me no end of joy. F*ck them and their whinging supporters. Moral Ashes my arse.


Ben “I wouldn’t want to win a series that way” Stokes claiming a catch he knew he didn’t take. Wonderful cricketer, fair hypocrite though. 2-2 probably about right to be fair, was buggerall between the two sides.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:04 am

JK wrote:
Booney wrote:The fact another miserable English summer cost them the Ashes brings me no end of joy. F*ck them and their whinging supporters. Moral Ashes my arse.


Ben “I wouldn’t want to win a series that way” Stokes claiming a catch he knew he didn’t take. Wonderful cricketer, fair hypocrite though. 2-2 probably about right to be fair, was buggerall between the two sides.

I thought they were the better side.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:06 am

whufc wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:
whufc wrote:So pretty much Bazball dominated the Ashes and if not for rain Manchester would have won the thing.

Test cricket is changed.

Australia should have been 3-0 nil up, had the poms 6/171 chasing 251 with No 8 & 9 at the crease.


Nah that doesn't work coz you could say England most definitely should have won the first test if not for the Cummins/Lyon partnership and Roots very generous declaration (which will be part of the refinement of bazball)

How come Root declared?
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Booney » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:08 am

Reports the Australians asked several times for the English team to join them in the rooms for a post series drink only to have no response.

Wankers. :lol:
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:10 am

FlyingHigh wrote:
shoe boy wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Bazball works by smashing the bowlers, having the fielding captain not holding their nerve and spreading the field. Then the easy 1s and 2s are there to keep the score ticking over


Bring on the Ashes in our back yard 2025


The two sides, based on ages not form, will be markedly different apart from England's batting which could be almost identical if Pope regains his place.

Out for the Aussies IMO will be Warner, Khawaja, Smith (will retire this summer), Hazelwood, probably Starc, Bolland and Head. Barring injury, I think Lyon will still be there.

The English bowling will be completely different too. Tongue and maybe Robinson the only one who played this series who might be there

Will the faster and truer pitches help the English batting or will the extra pace find out the techniques? Will the bigger ovals be harder to defend 4's, but see some of those sixes on small ovals be catches?

Why will Hazlewood, Boland or Head be out? I think Usman and Smith will still be playing too.

We’ve just had the most gruelling schedule imaginable, it means we’re 4 years away from having to repeat the process, we can beat up on sides now and finish up with immaculate averages.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:11 am

Booney wrote:Reports the Australians asked several times for the English team to join them in the rooms for a post series drink only to have no response.

Wankers. :lol:

Should’ve called Johnny back
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby whufc » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:19 am

Booney wrote:Reports the Australians asked several times for the English team to join them in the rooms for a post series drink only to have no response.

Wankers. :lol:


Poor form if true.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby am Bays » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:22 am

Booney wrote:Reports the Australians asked several times for the English team to join them in the rooms for a post series drink only to have no response.

Wankers. :lol:


Sh!t Form, if true.

Absolutely 100% against what I consider to be the spirit of cricket

Win lose draw or tie you should catch up with the opposition post game
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:24 am

whufc wrote:
Booney wrote:Reports the Australians asked several times for the English team to join them in the rooms for a post series drink only to have no response.

Wankers. :lol:


Poor form if true.


The Poms would by dying to catch-up with Marnus for a vodka cruiser or two!
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:28 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:
shoe boy wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Bazball works by smashing the bowlers, having the fielding captain not holding their nerve and spreading the field. Then the easy 1s and 2s are there to keep the score ticking over


Bring on the Ashes in our back yard 2025


The two sides, based on ages not form, will be markedly different apart from England's batting which could be almost identical if Pope regains his place.

Out for the Aussies IMO will be Warner, Khawaja, Smith (will retire this summer), Hazelwood, probably Starc, Bolland and Head. Barring injury, I think Lyon will still be there.

The English bowling will be completely different too. Tongue and maybe Robinson the only one who played this series who might be there

Will the faster and truer pitches help the English batting or will the extra pace find out the techniques? Will the bigger ovals be harder to defend 4's, but see some of those sixes on small ovals be catches?


Why will Hazlewood, Boland or Head be out? I think Usman and Smith will still be playing too.

We’ve just had the most gruelling schedule imaginable, it means we’re 4 years away from having to repeat the process, we can beat up on sides now and finish up with immaculate averages.


Boland will be 36.5 when the series starts, Hazelwood will be 34-35 and I think will succumb to injuries by then, combined with Cummins being 32, Lyon 38, Starc 35-36 but probably retired, we will have had a transition in our bowling attack by then. Head to me is one bad series and a change in thought by different selectors, from being dropped.

There was just something in Smith's mannerisms and the way he got out in the last few Tests which make me think his skills and eye have started to decline.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Booney » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:39 am

Result margins in this series: 2 wickets, 43 runs, 3 wickets and 49 runs.
In all 343 men’s Ashes Tests played before this series, there had been only 25 matches won by margins of under 50 runs or by three or fewer wickets (and none in the 1960s or 1970s).
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:51 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:
whufc wrote:So pretty much Bazball dominated the Ashes and if not for rain Manchester would have won the thing.

Test cricket is changed.

Australia should have been 3-0 nil up, had the poms 6/171 chasing 251 with No 8 & 9 at the crease.


Nah that doesn't work coz you could say England most definitely should have won the first test if not for the Cummins/Lyon partnership and Roots very generous declaration (which will be part of the refinement of bazball)

How come Root declared?
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:22 am

whufc wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:
whufc wrote:So pretty much Bazball dominated the Ashes and if not for rain Manchester would have won the thing.

Test cricket is changed.

Australia should have been 3-0 nil up, had the poms 6/171 chasing 251 with No 8 & 9 at the crease.


Nah that doesn't work coz you could say England most definitely should have won the first test if not for the Cummins/Lyon partnership and Roots very generous declaration (which will be part of the refinement of bazball)

But England didn't win the 1st Test, or the 2nd Test. At this point Australia had already won the first 2 Tests and had a big chance to go 3 nil up.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby tigerpie » Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:37 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
whufc wrote:So pretty much Bazball dominated the Ashes and if not for rain Manchester would have won the thing.

Test cricket is changed.
Similar to how Sri Lanka changed ODI in the mid-late 90s.

Bazball may struggle against a captain who doesn't jump at shadows

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Not sure all of it's on the captain.
The bowling plans put together by the coach were terrible.

It seems to me building pressure by making the batter think has gone out the window.
Fields were set to shut bowling.
A deep point first over is negative and gives an easy single every time. So pressure is relieved.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby mal » Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:41 am

mal wrote:3/226
Smith and Head have batted England out of contention
Australia look the winners only rain can save England



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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby mal » Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:43 am

mal wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Took the Aussies @ $2.50 when they were none for about 70, the cash out us looking good atm


I backed EG at the start of the 4th day at $1-50 :oops:



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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:56 am

Armchair expert wrote:I'll leave this site if we win the 5th test


Unlucky people.

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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby mal » Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:56 am

The Bedge wrote:Starc will play due to point of difference if nothing else. Left arm, 150k, swinging new ball.. dangerous.


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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby mal » Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:04 pm

mal wrote:Joe Root is a champion batsman and a handy offspinner
But England cant pick him as a frontline spinner
England has to pick a frontline spinner- no matter who it is

The way England bats, and should the weather not affect any game , it looks like a 3-2 win for one of the teams
I predict 2-2 and a draw
David Warner potentially can either win or lose this series for Australia


NostraMALdamus predicts the 2-2 series result
And yeah Moeen Ali did his bit
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