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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby dedja » Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:16 pm

Not sure he has any clue about SANFL finances to be honest.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Aerie » Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:07 pm

Summer SANFL

- Starts Mid-October, 8 clubs home and away plus 3 weeks of Finals. A 3-week break over Christmas/New Year, finishes with the Grand Final on the first Saturday in March at Adelaide Oval.
- Move on the cricket clubs from Woodville, Glenelg, Unley and Prospect to other locations (the SACA want less clubs anyway).
- 4 games per week on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday beginning at 7:30pm, broadcast nation wide.
- Keep the women and juniors playing through the winter, add a winter U21 competition which feeds the league team in summer/replaces the reserves.
- Shorten the games to 16 minutes plus time on.

Fill the clubrooms all year. Have the ovals in better shape for league footy. Remove any competition from the AFL or community/country footy. Many players might have another club they play for in winter.

The SANFL still do all their work promoting grassroots football and providing pathways in winter and then have the pinnacle, that being the SANFL League Competition, as a standalone commercially attractive product over summer.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby dedja » Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:26 pm

D’fuq?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby topshelf » Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:48 pm

Not sure why power and crows people think the AFL will take away funding from the SANFL if they’re not in it. Not much really changes, we’ll still get the same funding for all the junior development programs. Port haven’t paid any money directly to the SANFL clubs and from memory the Crows stopped paying the $50k to each club around 2019. Port crowds are average now, Crows crowds below that. Media attention on the league will be the same and I think channel 7 will continue with the way things are. Can’t see the SANFL losing much from them leaving apart from maybe a couple of players in each side depending on how it’s structured.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MJP1993 » Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:29 am

topshelf wrote:Not sure why power and crows people think the AFL will take away funding from the SANFL if they’re not in it. Not much really changes, we’ll still get the same funding for all the junior development programs. Port haven’t paid any money directly to the SANFL clubs and from memory the Crows stopped paying the $50k to each club around 2019. Port crowds are average now, Crows crowds below that. Media attention on the league will be the same and I think channel 7 will continue with the way things are. Can’t see the SANFL losing much from them leaving apart from maybe a couple of players in each side depending on how it’s structured.


Port crowds average ? I’ll assume you mean at Alberton games cause they struggle to drive up port road to oval ave .
Yep slightly more port fans than crows fans at away games
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Wedgie » Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:27 am

MJP1993 wrote:
topshelf wrote:Not sure why power and crows people think the AFL will take away funding from the SANFL if they’re not in it. Not much really changes, we’ll still get the same funding for all the junior development programs. Port haven’t paid any money directly to the SANFL clubs and from memory the Crows stopped paying the $50k to each club around 2019. Port crowds are average now, Crows crowds below that. Media attention on the league will be the same and I think channel 7 will continue with the way things are. Can’t see the SANFL losing much from them leaving apart from maybe a couple of players in each side depending on how it’s structured.


Port crowds average ? I’ll assume you mean at Alberton games cause they struggle to drive up port road to oval ave .
Yep slightly more port fans than crows fans at away games

I think he meant average as in mediocre not an actual average of the league.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MJP1993 » Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:02 am

Wedgie wrote:
MJP1993 wrote:
topshelf wrote:Not sure why power and crows people think the AFL will take away funding from the SANFL if they’re not in it. Not much really changes, we’ll still get the same funding for all the junior development programs. Port haven’t paid any money directly to the SANFL clubs and from memory the Crows stopped paying the $50k to each club around 2019. Port crowds are average now, Crows crowds below that. Media attention on the league will be the same and I think channel 7 will continue with the way things are. Can’t see the SANFL losing much from them leaving apart from maybe a couple of players in each side depending on how it’s structured.


Port crowds average ? I’ll assume you mean at Alberton games cause they struggle to drive up port road to oval ave .
Yep slightly more port fans than crows fans at away games

I think he meant average as in mediocre not an actual average of the league.



Ahh ok that makes sense Wedgie
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:06 am

Do Port and Crows sanfl games on TV rate higher than the other sanfl teams?
Anyone know if figures published anywhere?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby knowledge » Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:07 am

topshelf wrote:Not sure why power and crows people think the AFL will take away funding from the SANFL if they’re not in it. Not much really changes, we’ll still get the same funding for all the junior development programs. Port haven’t paid any money directly to the SANFL clubs and from memory the Crows stopped paying the $50k to each club around 2019. Port crowds are average now, Crows crowds below that. Media attention on the league will be the same and I think channel 7 will continue with the way things are. Can’t see the SANFL losing much from them leaving apart from maybe a couple of players in each side depending on how it’s structured.


No. Adelaide continue to pay $50K to each of the 8 SANFL clubs. I think you’re referring to the system of drafting. Each SANFL club now receives $50K regardless of whether they have 0 or 6 players drafted. This used to be on a drip system $12.5K on drafting, $12.5K on first game, $12.5K on 12 games, and so on…..
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby topshelf » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:51 pm

knowledge wrote:
topshelf wrote:Not sure why power and crows people think the AFL will take away funding from the SANFL if they’re not in it. Not much really changes, we’ll still get the same funding for all the junior development programs. Port haven’t paid any money directly to the SANFL clubs and from memory the Crows stopped paying the $50k to each club around 2019. Port crowds are average now, Crows crowds below that. Media attention on the league will be the same and I think channel 7 will continue with the way things are. Can’t see the SANFL losing much from them leaving apart from maybe a couple of players in each side depending on how it’s structured.


No. Adelaide continue to pay $50K to each of the 8 SANFL clubs. I think you’re referring to the system of drafting. Each SANFL club now receives $50K regardless of whether they have 0 or 6 players drafted. This used to be on a drip system $12.5K on drafting, $12.5K on first game, $12.5K on 12 games, and so on…..


Nah, I meant the crows. Someone told me they stopped paying that when Covid hit, when they didn’t play in the SANFL that season and they haven’t paid the $50k each since. I’ll take it that’s wrong then from what you just wrote. $50k isn’t going to be a difference maker for clubs I wouldn’t haven’t thought but good to know they are still paying it for now.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby StrayDog » Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:40 pm

topshelf wrote:...$50k isn’t going to be a difference maker for clubs I wouldn’t haven’t thought but good to know they are still paying it for now.

Probably a similar financial effect to losing a single poker machine, at least in the short term.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MW » Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:43 pm

StrayDog wrote:
topshelf wrote:...$50k isn’t going to be a difference maker for clubs I wouldn’t haven’t thought but good to know they are still paying it for now.

Probably a similar financial effect to losing a single poker machine, at least in the short term.


50k for West would literally be the difference between staying or folding
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Blacky » Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:45 pm

At least the cows paid money to the SANFL the port never have
I will be glad to see the back of both clubs
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Blacky » Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:45 pm

At least the cows paid money to the SANFL the port never have
I will be glad to see the back of both clubs
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Spargo » Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:45 pm

MW wrote:
StrayDog wrote:
topshelf wrote:...$50k isn’t going to be a difference maker for clubs I wouldn’t haven’t thought but good to know they are still paying it for now.

Probably a similar financial effect to losing a single poker machine, at least in the short term.


50k for West would literally be the difference between staying or folding

I was thinking the same. $50k is huge for at least 2 clubs I know of.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:54 pm

Blacky wrote:At least the cows paid money to the SANFL the smears never have
I will be glad to see the back of both clubs


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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:23 pm

dedja wrote:Not sure he has any clue about SANFL finances to be honest.


At least it led me to this article:

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/12/07/ ... expecting/

There were a few more tricks that Zorko didn't say

Frampton's role
the 6/6/6 infringement
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby dedja » Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:29 pm

Nice diversion.

Frampton’s GF role? Well, he did manage to stop Andrews kicking any goals.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby StrayDog » Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:45 pm

Spargo wrote:
MW wrote:
StrayDog wrote:
topshelf wrote:...$50k isn’t going to be a difference maker for clubs I wouldn’t haven’t thought but good to know they are still paying it for now.

Probably a similar financial effect to losing a single poker machine, at least in the short term.


50k for West would literally be the difference between staying or folding

I was thinking the same. $50k is huge for at least 2 clubs I know of.

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby UK Fan » Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:47 pm

topshelf wrote:
knowledge wrote:
topshelf wrote:Not sure why power and crows people think the AFL will take away funding from the SANFL if they’re not in it. Not much really changes, we’ll still get the same funding for all the junior development programs. Port haven’t paid any money directly to the SANFL clubs and from memory the Crows stopped paying the $50k to each club around 2019. Port crowds are average now, Crows crowds below that. Media attention on the league will be the same and I think channel 7 will continue with the way things are. Can’t see the SANFL losing much from them leaving apart from maybe a couple of players in each side depending on how it’s structured.


No. Adelaide continue to pay $50K to each of the 8 SANFL clubs. I think you’re referring to the system of drafting. Each SANFL club now receives $50K regardless of whether they have 0 or 6 players drafted. This used to be on a drip system $12.5K on drafting, $12.5K on first game, $12.5K on 12 games, and so on…..


Nah, I meant the crows. Someone told me they stopped paying that when Covid hit, when they didn’t play in the SANFL that season and they haven’t paid the $50k each since. I’ll take it that’s wrong then from what you just wrote. $50k isn’t going to be a difference maker for clubs I wouldn’t haven’t thought but good to know they are still paying it for now.


I asked Greg Edwards earlier in the year have the crows started repaying now covid is over and he didnt know the answer. He stated "he would need to look into it" so I was of the same opinion.

Same with the licence repayments. Ther werent made during COVIC and Im not sure if the repayments have been caught up.
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