Australian International Summer 2023/24

[RB]

2.23 p.m. in the middle of summer and they're off for bad light.

Time to give the NYD test to Adelaide methinks.

[mal]

After years of thinking anything less than 90 overs in a day is inexcusable I have changed my mindset after piecemealing it.

Each session they need to bowl 30 overs (180 legal deliveries).
Minus a 3 minute drinks interval.
Minus 29 minutes as they would lose a minute in between each over for changeover.
This leaves 29 seconds per delivery without any additional interruptions.
With the bowlers run up commencing 70 metres away from the keeper for the majority of the day, are they destined to fail more often than not?

Why does it take a minute between overs?

No fielder needs to move more than 100m.
I don't need them to sprint it in 10 seconds flat, but jog through and you can be in position within 20 seconds.
So lets give them 30.

Why the need for the other 30 seconds?
Right there you've wasted 45 minutes over a full day.

Now, as for the time it takes to bowl a delivery...
30m run up, plus 10m follow through, 40m, call it 6 seconds.
Turn around and walk back to the top of your mark, another 20 seconds.
Still gives them 4 seconds at the top of the mark to 'compose themselves' before running in again.

Spinners obviously quicker.

30 overs isn't just achievable, its the expectation.

If weekend hacks can get through 44 overs in a 2hour 20 minute session, when guys are constantly out of position and need to be re-directed, then test professionals should be able to do 30 overs in 2 hours without a worry.

Can’t compare to weekend hacks

Amateurs generally have blokes field wherever is the closest point for them to field, where at international level they are always going to have the best in the right positions

Amateurs generally set the same fields/plans for each batsmen with minor tweaks, international level they have complete different strategies which can see completely different fields

Can’t compare run up lengths between amateurs/pros, also distances keepers and slips have to go between overs is huge.

The times also haven’t taken into account drs reviews, concussion tests, checks for 4,s & 6,s. Batters swapping gloves which is nothing to do with the fielding sides, getting helmets out for fielders which rarely happens at amatuer level.

So many different aspects you can’t compare the two .

I can also add batsmen like Booney [ western youth centre]
who hit a lot of zacs that took time to retrieve from the backyards and the streets of Adelaide

[stampy]

this is where the laws of cricket are ridiculous

off for bad light with massive flood lit towers

ffs, they are primadonnas

[Trader]

After years of thinking anything less than 90 overs in a day is inexcusable I have changed my mindset after piecemealing it.

Each session they need to bowl 30 overs (180 legal deliveries).
Minus a 3 minute drinks interval.
Minus 29 minutes as they would lose a minute in between each over for changeover.
This leaves 29 seconds per delivery without any additional interruptions.
With the bowlers run up commencing 70 metres away from the keeper for the majority of the day, are they destined to fail more often than not?

Why does it take a minute between overs?

No fielder needs to move more than 100m.
I don't need them to sprint it in 10 seconds flat, but jog through and you can be in position within 20 seconds.
So lets give them 30.

Why the need for the other 30 seconds?
Right there you've wasted 45 minutes over a full day.

Now, as for the time it takes to bowl a delivery...
30m run up, plus 10m follow through, 40m, call it 6 seconds.
Turn around and walk back to the top of your mark, another 20 seconds.
Still gives them 4 seconds at the top of the mark to 'compose themselves' before running in again.

Spinners obviously quicker.

30 overs isn't just achievable, its the expectation.

If weekend hacks can get through 44 overs in a 2hour 20 minute session, when guys are constantly out of position and need to be re-directed, then test professionals should be able to do 30 overs in 2 hours without a worry.

Can’t compare to weekend hacks

Amateurs generally have blokes field wherever is the closest point for them to field, where at international level they are always going to have the best in the right positions

Amateurs generally set the same fields/plans for each batsmen with minor tweaks, international level they have complete different strategies which can see completely different fields

Can’t compare run up lengths between amateurs/pros, also distances keepers and slips have to go between overs is huge.

The times also haven’t taken into account drs reviews, concussion tests, checks for 4,s & 6,s. Batters swapping gloves which is nothing to do with the fielding sides, getting helmets out for fielders which rarely happens at amatuer level.

So many different aspects you can’t compare the two .

I'm not saying tests should be doing overs every 3mins and 11seconds, like the ammos. But if ammos can do 3mins 11seconds, then tests should easily be able to do 4 minute overs.

Yes, you list some reasons why tests will be slower, but equally ammos have their own set of reasons why they are slower:
-the 140kg first slip takes way longer to move between overs than the 75kg warner.
-when the ball gets hit into the creek, vs when the crowd throw it back.
-the game gets stopped cause the scorers need to work out why the books don't add up.
-the game is held up while the fielding captain requests the batting team to change umpires.
etc

[mal]

I can recall a game , by mutual consent with the opposition captain, we stopped a game to listen to the Caulfield Cup

[woodublieve12]

I can recall a game , by mutual consent with the opposition captain, we stopped a game to listen to the Caulfield Cup

yeah same

[am Bays]

I cant get enough of Howies extended interviews at drinks breaks...

(if I watched Fox cricket)

Thats an additional three overs in the day caught up if the drink breaks were a strict 3-4 mins

[The Dark Knight]

Contempt for the cricketing public shown by Marnus and Steve Smith.

It's not just the Aus batsmen to blame here, don't forget Pakistan were asked by the umpires to bowl their spinners given the quality of the light and they said no.

[locky801]

Contempt for the cricketing public shown by Marnus and Steve Smith.

It's not just the Aus batsmen to blame here, don't forget Pakistan were asked by the umpires to bowl their spinners given the quality of the light and they said no.

Quite simple, turn on the bloody lights, it aint rocket science not that it matters now as its raining

[DOC]

Good call. My ongoing and never to be stopped contempt for Steve Smith probably clouded my judgement.

[DOC]

The lights were on. And now everyone's home.

[Arry Gablett]

Channel 7 need to replay the Quentin de Koch interview again
One of the most insightful riveting conversations ever

[mighty_tiger_79]

Channel 7 need to replay the Quentin de Koch interview again
One of the most insightful riveting conversations ever

I'm so pumped for the BBL now....

[daysofourlives]

I can recall a game , by mutual consent with the opposition captain, we stopped a game to listen to the Caulfield Cup

No need to now with mobile phones, i was at 1st slip with the phone on the ground between my legs watching the cox plate this year.
Cant say we dont do everything possible to speed up the game.

[The Dark Knight]

Contempt for the cricketing public shown by Marnus and Steve Smith.

It's not just the Aus batsmen to blame here, don't forget Pakistan were asked by the umpires to bowl their spinners given the quality of the light and they said no.

Quite simple, turn on the bloody lights, it aint rocket science not that it matters now as its raining

Were you not watching? The lights were on and obviously they weren't having a big enough effect.

[Senor Moto Gadili]

Who decided that 90 overs in a day was still realistic. Whilst there are unnecessary delays with drink carriers, glove changes etc. that should be more closely monitored. But DRS, large number of left handers and right-left batting combinations that cause change to fields and constant changes to over and around the wicket, much greater strategy from captains with changing fields during overs, more boundaries, and higher % of overs bowled by quicks in most countries are reasonable factors in the modern game that makes this chest beating about 15 over hours rather unrealistic. Test cricket was very much a bore fest when teams were achieving 90 overs in 6 hours and a lot easier for captains with teams batting at 2.0 to 2.5 runs an over and blokes bowling straight breaks and dibbly dobbly medium pace being able to hold up an end for decent length spells. Just make it a 6.5 hour day with re-calculation of a more achievable minimum overs.

Well said .... there are far bigger issues facing Test cricket than slow over rates.

[spell_check]

2.23 p.m. in the middle of summer and they're off for bad light.

Time to give the NYD test to Adelaide methinks.

Haha, I like it, but imagine the shitshow that would cause? We earned the right really, and will turn up on day 1 in numbers that even the SCG can't hold if we get that slot (ironical weather permitting)

[whufc]

2.23 p.m. in the middle of summer and they're off for bad light.

Time to give the NYD test to Adelaide methinks.

Haha, I like it, but imagine the shitshow that would cause? We earned the right really, and will turn up on day 1 in numbers that even the SCG can't hold if we get that slot (ironical weather permitting)

Would we really want the NYE Test. I imagine at some point it will go back to being the 5th test of the summer and in so many cases nothing but a dead rubber.

[Lightning McQueen]

2.23 p.m. in the middle of summer and they're off for bad light.

Time to give the NYD test to Adelaide methinks.

Haha, I like it, but imagine the shitshow that would cause? We earned the right really, and will turn up on day 1 in numbers that even the SCG can't hold if we get that slot (ironical weather permitting)

Would we really want the NYE Test. I imagine at some point it will go back to being the 5th test of the summer and in so many cases nothing but a dead rubber.

1. We’re never getting the NY test unless they changed the whole summer’s programming.
2. No one really cares if it’s a dead rubber or not, they rock up to see the Aussies win, because that’s what happens in Australia, no matter how well a team is travelling they don’t win in Australia (with the exception of the gutsy Indian A squad a few years back)

My solution is to play the BBL late November through to perhaps having the finals in early January’ (this allows the T20 mercenaries to play the whole comp), make the first test the Melbourne Boxing Day test, there’s a stronger chance that weather will better in January across the country.

Still keep the Sydney test as the fifth test though, some of my favourite test moments have been the final session on day 5 of the Sydney test, Graeme Smith batting with a broken hand, Clarke’s bowling heroics just name a couple

[DOC]

David Warner has found one of his "missing" caps.