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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby UK Fan » Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:47 pm

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topshelf wrote:Not sure why power and crows people think the AFL will take away funding from the SANFL if they’re not in it. Not much really changes, we’ll still get the same funding for all the junior development programs. Port haven’t paid any money directly to the SANFL clubs and from memory the Crows stopped paying the $50k to each club around 2019. Port crowds are average now, Crows crowds below that. Media attention on the league will be the same and I think channel 7 will continue with the way things are. Can’t see the SANFL losing much from them leaving apart from maybe a couple of players in each side depending on how it’s structured.


No. Adelaide continue to pay $50K to each of the 8 SANFL clubs. I think you’re referring to the system of drafting. Each SANFL club now receives $50K regardless of whether they have 0 or 6 players drafted. This used to be on a drip system $12.5K on drafting, $12.5K on first game, $12.5K on 12 games, and so on…..


Nah, I meant the crows. Someone told me they stopped paying that when Covid hit, when they didn’t play in the SANFL that season and they haven’t paid the $50k each since. I’ll take it that’s wrong then from what you just wrote. $50k isn’t going to be a difference maker for clubs I wouldn’t haven’t thought but good to know they are still paying it for now.


I asked Greg Edwards earlier in the year have the crows started repaying now covid is over and he didnt know the answer. He stated "he would need to look into it" so I was of the same opinion.

Same with the licence repayments. Ther werent made during COVIC and Im not sure if the repayments have been caught up.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby UK Fan » Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:54 pm

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topshelf wrote:...$50k isn’t going to be a difference maker for clubs I wouldn’t haven’t thought but good to know they are still paying it for now.

Probably a similar financial effect to losing a single poker machine, at least in the short term.


50k for West would literally be the difference between staying or folding


WRONG AGAIN!!!

https://sanfl-content.imgix.net/content ... b-2022.pdf

$50k would represent approx 2% of the clubs turnover

And in a good asset position with an upgrade to facilities on the way.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:56 pm

dedja wrote:Nice diversion.

Frampton’s GF role? Well, he did manage to stop Andrews kicking any goals.


Not that you care (because winning premierships is foreign to you :P ) but his job was to stop Andrews getting intercept marks which he did for 3/4

He just **** up when the ball came to him and he could have marked and goaled (twice IIRC)
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby dedja » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:03 pm

I was also going to mention that he faarked up a couple of gimme marks, but that would have negated whatever influence he had on the match. O:)

Premierships? This is an SANFL thread, no?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Gozu » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:05 pm

I'm not advocating for them to stay but I'm pretty sure the Ch 7 TV deal was tied to the AFL team's entries into the SANFL, what would happen to the TV side of things if they both depart? I would think Ch 7 would probably bail and I don't think the ABC broadcast state footy leagues anymore?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby UK Fan » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:18 pm

Gozu wrote:I'm not advocating for them to stay but I'm pretty sure the Ch 7 TV deal was tied to the AFL team's entries into the SANFL, what would happen to the TV side of things if they both depart? I would think Ch 7 would probably bail and I don't think the ABC broadcast state footy leagues anymore?



No. That’s incorrect. 7 still broadcast games in 2020 with no afl teams in the comp.

But Chandler stressed that the SANFL would remain a valuable media commodity, which this year continued to produce plenty of “eyeball’’ numbers for broadcaster Channel 7, the AFL and SANFL live streaming and other media outlets, including The Advertiser.

Channel 7’s broadcast commercial share average for the 2023 season was 40 per cent, with a 63 per cent share for the league grand final between Glenelg and Sturt, which peaked at 100,000 viewers.

“That’s enormous numbers,’’ Chandler said.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby am Bays » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:45 pm

dedja wrote:I was also going to mention that he faarked up a couple of gimme marks, but that would have negated whatever influence he had on the match. O:)

Premierships? This is an SANFL thread, no?


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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby gazzamagoo » Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:34 pm

am Bays wrote:
dedja wrote:I was also going to mention that he faarked up a couple of gimme marks, but that would have negated whatever influence he had on the match. O:)

Premierships? This is an SANFL thread, no?


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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Pseudo » Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:49 pm

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Gozu wrote:I'm not advocating for them to stay but I'm pretty sure the Ch 7 TV deal was tied to the AFL team's entries into the SANFL, what would happen to the TV side of things if they both depart? I would think Ch 7 would probably bail and I don't think the ABC broadcast state footy leagues anymore?



No. That’s incorrect. 7 still broadcast games in 2020 with no afl teams in the comp.

But Chandler stressed that the SANFL would remain a valuable media commodity, which this year continued to produce plenty of “eyeball’’ numbers for broadcaster Channel 7, the AFL and SANFL live streaming and other media outlets, including The Advertiser.

Channel 7’s broadcast commercial share average for the 2023 season was 40 per cent, with a 63 per cent share for the league grand final between Glenelg and Sturt, which peaked at 100,000 viewers.

“That’s enormous numbers,’’ Chandler said.


And the punchline? The SANFL pays Seven for the coverage. Could the cart be any further in front of the horse?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby dedja » Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:01 pm

I pay the missus but I still claim it when I get one.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby gazzamagoo » Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:45 pm

[quote="dedja"]I pay the missus but I still claim it when she pegs me (EFA)
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby dedja » Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:17 pm

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:14 pm

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dedja wrote:I pay the missus but I still claim it when she pegs me (EFA)


She needs to get something out of it
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby StrayDog » Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:02 am

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dedja wrote:I pay the missus but I still claim it when I get one.

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dedja wrote:I pay the missus but I still claim it when she pegs me (EFA)


She needs to get something out of it

Probably no where near as much there used to to be, if personal experience is any guide but, yes, that's normally how it works. ;)
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby dedja » Mon May 13, 2024 2:19 pm

Having 2 teams with different priorities and conditions in the SANFL was obviously never going to work, which hindsight has vindicated.

Pity that the (supposed) last year of their participation in the comp will be remembered the way its heading so far.

I don't have the hate that some may have (which is OK by the way), but am happy that the 'experiment' is (allegedly) coming to an end.

The Magpies weren't mean to survive past 1996 (Port wanted them gone, but the SANFL demand that they continue) so I guess they got nearly 30 more years out of them, but there's no point them being here anymore.

The Crows, on the other hand, should never have been allowed to enter.

It also looks like neither team in their AFL form will achieve the ultimate in the SANFL, which most of us I suspect are very thankful for.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dutchy » Mon May 13, 2024 2:34 pm

It is the broken promises which is most frustrating.

The promise the play to win and to play to the line at all times was always a furphy, it was always a development tool for them (and I don't blame them) but they got in on the condition that they would respect the SANFL competition.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby another grub » Mon May 13, 2024 2:54 pm

they have a lot of injuries this year dutchy, lost a GF by a kick.

Id be looking at the Fruit Tingles prelim efforts before any recent games played with majority top-ups
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby DOC » Mon May 13, 2024 3:07 pm

Dutchy wrote:It is the broken promises which is most frustrating.

The promise the play to win and to play to the line at all times was always a furphy, it was always a development tool for them (and I don't blame them) but they got in on the condition that they would respect the SANFL competition.


Well luckily for them Nic Chigwidden amongst others sold out the SANFL supporters
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby DOC » Mon May 13, 2024 3:09 pm

Don’t ever forget that Glenelg, Sturt, Norwood, North, West and WWT sold out the league.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon May 13, 2024 3:10 pm

Dutchy wrote:It is the broken promises which is most frustrating.

The promise the play to win and to play to the line at all times was always a furphy, it was always a development tool for them (and I don't blame them) but they got in on the condition that they would respect the SANFL competition.


And they can **** off with their top up players causing havoc in other SA leagues
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