ASCA

[The Dark Knight]

So things have been fairly quiet on the ASCA front in the off season. Looking at socials, it looks like there's only been 2-3 recruitment announcements across the top 2 sections.

We've seen competitions like GSCA pick up quite a few highly talented players - has there been any movements that haven't been openly advertised within the ASCA?

How is the competition looking at the end of August? Who are we predicting to make a splash?

Any key talking points at an association level? I believe the AGM happened recently but very little out there infromation wise.

Believe there was a vote to reduce overs in S1 from 75 to 60, that was put forward by North Haven. I don't know the outcome.

Sutton Derby sounds like got accepted into PDCA, left ASCA with unpaid bills and fines.

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That motion did not get voted in.
Motions that were voted in-
12.30pm starts every match
Affiliation fee increased by $10
Late start fine $20
Forcing of premiers up a section and wooden spoon down a section (clubs/teams can't ask to move/not move).

[Moe]

I haven't heard much regarding higher section's, but I have heard recently that a "Fitzroy" type situation is on the cards in a lower section, with a large contingent of a club list looking to relocate to another club.

[sportsfan]

The one motion that I don't understand, is to start all games at 12:30 pm, especially when section 1 is staying as 75 overs. I fear that this will impact playing numbers, especially from section 4 down, where the teams are made up largely of middle aged men, who -

1. Have children playing school cricket on a Saturday morning, meaning they will now have 1 less hour to get home & get to cricket.
2. Who work on a Saturday morning (especially tradies) who probably work until 12:30 and need the double time pay offered up on a Saturday to pay the bills. (This will also effect younger guys / apprentices).
3. If your A grade is in section 1, they are going to be finishing 1 - 1.5 hours after a section 3 / 4 game. This is ok if they are playing at home, as the other sides could watch the last session, but on away games the lower sections will be waiting around for up to 2 hours for the A grade to get back before presso's, another tough one for people with a young family.

I just don't think those who resoundingly voted this in, gave the above a lot of thought. I know for me personally and other older guys at our club who are still having a hit, it will make them question playing this year, as the later start in the lower sections (and 60 overs) is the main thing keeping them playing, especially while our junior grades are still young & developing.

[bazza1]

We play 7 one dayers, and they start at 12:30, so why not have all the games start at this time?


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[The Dark Knight]

3. If your A grade is in section 1, they are going to be finishing 1 - 1.5 hours after a section 3 / 4 game. This is ok if they are playing at home, as the other sides could watch the last session, but on away games the lower sections will be waiting around for up to 2 hours for the A grade to get back before presso's, another tough one for people with a young family.

On the flip side that hour that people will be 'waiting around for' is an extra hour's worth of bar takings for a club on a Saturday evening or gives people more time to potentially go home first before heading back to their club for the night. For guys with families the earlier finish time may be better for them and how they plan their Saturday night.

I do agree with your second point, the change of start time may effect guys who work Saturday mornings before playing a two match, the 1.30 start time is handy for that.

[Moe]

3. If your A grade is in section 1, they are going to be finishing 1 - 1.5 hours after a section 3 / 4 game. This is ok if they are playing at home, as the other sides could watch the last session, but on away games the lower sections will be waiting around for up to 2 hours for the A grade to get back before presso's, another tough one for people with a young family.

On the flip side that hour that people will be 'waiting around for' is an extra hour's worth of bar takings for a club on a Saturday evening or gives people more time to potentially go home first before heading back to their club for the night. For guys with families the earlier finish time may be better for them and how they plan their Saturday night.

I do agree with your second point, the change of start time may effect guys who work Saturday mornings before playing a two match, the 1.30 start time is handy for that.

I'm all for the earlier start, as a lower (lowest) grade player, and 50+ as well.
Playing away, it often meant by the time I got back to the club, most of the A/B grade players who were playing at home were either gone, or going.
I played at North Haven last season, and day 2 finished at around 4.45pm.
I always try to have at least one frothy at the oppo clubhouse if possible, or one/two out of my own esky with the oppo (if they are willing), then head off.
By the time I got back to my club, it was 7ish, with our other 4 teams waiting for awards.

I honestly doubt an early start with an earlier finish will put many old blokes off, but younger blokes who hit the cans hard on a Friday might miss the extra hour sleep more.

[sportsfan]

Granted, the 1 dayers start early, but that is 7 days out of 21 for the season, so it was manageable. It will be an interesting one and I'm only basing it on the chat amongst our club.

Point 3 was probably a bit of a stretch, but I know the first 2 points are the main issues we will face this year in getting people to commit to a season in the lower grades.....

[V0ice0fthev0iceless]

Anyone heard about gradings or fixtures? Have seen a few competitions have theirs out already.

[whitepointers]

Get in quick

[Moe]

Anyone heard about gradings or fixtures? Have seen a few competitions have theirs out already.

I assume the fixtures won't be out until October like usual.
How are club's shaping up this year?
Will section 10 be revived?
At Morphy Park, we are hoping to field 6 teams this season.

[The Dark Knight]

Anyone heard about gradings or fixtures? Have seen a few competitions have theirs out already.

I assume the fixtures won't be out until October like usual.
How are club's shaping up this year?
Will section 10 be revived?
At Morphy Park, we are hoping to field 6 teams this season.

Phil Davis has done the gradings and the fixture will follow, hopefully soon.

[Moe]

Anyone heard about gradings or fixtures? Have seen a few competitions have theirs out already.

I assume the fixtures won't be out until October like usual.
How are club's shaping up this year?
Will section 10 be revived?
At Morphy Park, we are hoping to field 6 teams this season.

Phil Davis has done the gradings and the fixture will follow, hopefully soon.

We now know our club's section gradings, and now looking forward to seeing who we play.

[Moe]

I don't know how everyone else feels, but after seeing the current gradings, I still don't understand how club's A grade teams feature as low as section 7.

I'm not interested in the quality of a club's first XI, which is only according to their opinion, having a club's first choice players up against other club's 3rd, 4th or 5th selections makes the association a mockery.

Warradale for instance had 1 team last season. They won section 8.
The previous season, they fielded 2 teams. Their A grade were in section 4.
This season, they have entered 2 teams again, with their A grade in section 7, B grade in 8.

IMHO, all club's A grade teams should be in sections 1-4.
All club's first XI's should be playing other clubs first XI's.

[whitepointers]

Moe... I agree with you, and it seems to be the same clubs with the same old sob stories.
They want soft cricket and will continue to do so unless rules change.
There's a B Grade in Section 9 this season.... also too low IMO.
Some clubs just don't want to challenge themselves and lose a few and take the easy option cause they can.

[storyoftheyear]

On the topic, at Coro we have lost 4 bowlers this season from our A grade due to a combination of work and family commitments. The obvious flow on effects are the B grade lads being promoted and the C grade and so on. Our B grade are in Section 2 and our C grade in Section 4 now. Rather than sook and seek demotion, it’s absolutely the opposite. The lads are looking forward to the challenge of playing up higher and I’m proud of them for stepping up. Good luck to all for the upcoming season.

[The Dark Knight]

On the topic, at Coro we have lost 4 bowlers this season from our A grade due to a combination of work and family commitments. The obvious flow on effects are the B grade lads being promoted and the C grade and so on. Our B grade are in Section 2 and our C grade in Section 4 now. Rather than sook and seek demotion, it’s absolutely the opposite. The lads are looking forward to the challenge of playing up higher and I’m proud of them for stepping up. Good luck to all for the upcoming season.

Who have you lost? Lourens, Scott and Sob? Looking at your team for tomorrow there's 7 from your semi final team from last season playing then an 8th (Hunter) is playing B grade, plus 2 playing tomorrow that didn’t play in that semi (Muggridge and Champion) played some A grade last season.

[storyoftheyear]

On the topic, at Coro we have lost 4 bowlers this season from our A grade due to a combination of work and family commitments. The obvious flow on effects are the B grade lads being promoted and the C grade and so on. Our B grade are in Section 2 and our C grade in Section 4 now. Rather than sook and seek demotion, it’s absolutely the opposite. The lads are looking forward to the challenge of playing up higher and I’m proud of them for stepping up. Good luck to all for the upcoming season.

Who have you lost? Lourens, Scott and Sob? Looking at your team for tomorrow there's 7 from your semi final team from last season playing then an 8th (Hunter) is playing B grade, plus 2 playing tomorrow that didn’t play in that semi (Muggridge and Champion) played some A grade last season.

Yeah those 3 plus Gyawali who won our A grade bowling trophy the season before last (didn’t play finals as he was overseas). Good luck tomorrow!

[Moe]

I'm sensing a few forfeits across the sections tomorrow

[Booney]

Good luck to all who are strapping the pads on again. Play the V or line and length, whatever your discipline.

[wenchbarwer]

Bugger that, adopt the baseball approach. Watch the first one then start swinging!