Albanese Labor Govt Watch

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Re: Albanese Labor Govt Watch

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Jun 02, 2025 11:38 am

RB wrote:Losing one seat to ON v losing a multitude of seats to Labor - on balance I'd say that going back to the middle is the sensible approach.


Immediately before the election, the Coalition were in front in the polls.
It was a terrible (that is a very conservative word) campaign and Labor's campaign was very good.
Pretty much the same as the last State election campaign here,
My view, together with plenty of others who know better than me, is the campaign cost them big time.
They also lost seats to ON because some long time Liberal voters wanted something else but wouldn't vote Labor
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Re: Albanese Labor Govt Watch

Postby RB » Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:52 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:They also lost seats to ON because some long time Liberal voters wanted something else but wouldn't vote Labor


That looks to be the case in the senate, and may mean that the days of the Coalition reliably winning 3 seats in most states in good-to-middling elections are disappearing - sort of like how Labor rarely win 3 seats these days because they're squeezed out by the Greens for that third seat (Labor did win 3 seats in two states this year - in addition to a Greens seat in each state - but it required an especially strong ALP vote which won't always be the case).

However in the House of Representatives, the Coalition still lost a hell of a lot more votes to Labor than to ON (and in any event most of the folks you're referring to would have preferenced the Coalition before Labor in the lower house).

The path back to government for the Coalition is by winning back folks who voted for Labor this year, but have voted for the Coalition regularly or at least occasionally in the past.
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Re: Albanese Labor Govt Watch

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Jun 02, 2025 5:56 pm

RB wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:They also lost seats to ON because some long time Liberal voters wanted something else but wouldn't vote Labor


That looks to be the case in the senate, and may mean that the days of the Coalition reliably winning 3 seats in most states in good-to-middling elections are disappearing - sort of like how Labor rarely win 3 seats these days because they're squeezed out by the Greens for that third seat (Labor did win 3 seats in two states this year - in addition to a Greens seat in each state - but it required an especially strong ALP vote which won't always be the case).

However in the House of Representatives, the Coalition still lost a hell of a lot more votes to Labor than to ON (and in any event most of the folks you're referring to would have preferenced the Coalition before Labor in the lower house).

The path back to government for the Coalition is by winning back folks who voted for Labor this year, but have voted for the Coalition regularly or at least occasionally in the past.


Dont disagree at all
I just place more emphasis on a $hite campaign
Same here in SA - Marshall should never have lost
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Re: Albanese Labor Govt Watch

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jun 02, 2025 6:49 pm

WA senator Dorinda Cox (GRN) will defect to the ALP.
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Re: Albanese Labor Govt Watch

Postby dedja » Wed Jun 04, 2025 4:33 pm

Libs lose Bradfield by 26 votes
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