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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Psyber » Fri May 22, 2009 9:33 am

Bulldog wrote:think the problem is tho the majority of people who have fog lights have them pointed up and it blindes other drivers on the road. Have had this problem plenty of times its like driving towards another car with their high beams on most of the time. And that can cause accidents.
The problem is after market self fitted ones - those on my two cars are integrated into slots designed to ensure they point where they are supposed to.
Perhaps the offence should be having incorrectly fitted lights of any sort.
However the driving lights to supplement the high beams on my AWD are potentially able to be nudged off position.
Last time I drove from Blinman to hawker at dusk I tilted them both outwards to the road edges to help spot the Kangas - and counted 57 of them lurking near the road edge during the trip...
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Wedgie » Fri May 22, 2009 9:41 am

Good to see the cops finally upholding the law as people that drive around with fog lights on for no reason shit me to tears. I wish they'd cracked down on it earlier.
Now if they'll just start doing something about the peanuts who can't read 'Keep Left Unless Overtaking' signs.
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby The Ash Man » Fri May 22, 2009 10:21 am

Ian wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
Ian wrote:I'm glad they are finally doing something about it, unless it is foggy or in misty rain all they do is make extra glare for other road users, FFS they are FOG lights not a status symbol.


You are kidding surely. These are stock standard lights that are in no way brighter than the other headlights. The difference is they point in a different direction (wider).

Who said anything about brightness?

I only mentioned glare, but now you mention it, most low beams do have lower wattage globes than fog lights as well as the glare issues created by the spread of the beam.

The beam is not angled to the left as low beams are, not only that, it is spread wide to the left and right side as well as straight ahead.

It is illegal to have them on unless in times of low visibility for a very good reason in normal conditions they provide far more glare than a low beam headlamp.


Not exactly true
Normal headlights have twin filaments the Low beam is 55W hi beam is 60W
Most fog lights run a 35W globe
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Iron Fist » Fri May 22, 2009 11:24 am

Wedgie wrote:Good to see the cops finally upholding the law as people that drive around with fog lights on for no reason s***t me to tears. I wish they'd cracked down on it earlier.
Now if they'll just start doing something about the peanuts who can't read 'Keep Left Unless Overtaking' signs.


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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Booney » Fri May 22, 2009 11:27 am

In Europe, "Keep left unless overtaking" signs are policed, if you dont do as it says you are booked and fined.
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Pseudo » Fri May 22, 2009 11:36 am

Bulldog wrote:Why dont the cops maybe sit in a side street just off Anzac highway on a sat night and book the people who use this road for street racing etc and make their money that way.

Would get no complaints from me. Some years ago I lived at Glenelg North, one or two streets back from ANZAC Highway. Lying in bed, one could always tell if it was Saturday night by the sheer volume of cars dragging up and down.
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Pseudo » Fri May 22, 2009 11:38 am

Booney wrote:In Europe, "Keep left unless overtaking" signs are policed, if you dont do as it says you are booked and fined.

So in Europe, where they drive on the right, drivers are encouraged to overtake in the right lanes? :-\
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby The Ash Man » Fri May 22, 2009 11:38 am

Booney wrote:In Europe, "Keep left unless overtaking" signs are policed, if you dont do as it says you are booked and fined.


They had a blitz on that here for a while.
The other rep at work got done on Walkleys Rd, hefty fine too
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Bully » Fri May 22, 2009 12:20 pm

The Ash Man wrote:
Booney wrote:In Europe, "Keep left unless overtaking" signs are policed, if you dont do as it says you are booked and fined.


They had a blitz on that here for a while.
The other rep at work got done on Walkleys Rd, hefty fine too



in QLD where i am you loose 2 demerit points and $150+ fine if caught. Signs on all motorways saying this but people dont pay attention
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Booney » Fri May 22, 2009 1:04 pm

Pseudo wrote:
Booney wrote:In Europe, "Keep left unless overtaking" signs are policed, if you dont do as it says you are booked and fined.

So in Europe, where they drive on the right, drivers are encouraged to overtake in the right lanes? :-\


Perhaps not taking everything in a literal sense and deciphering the information may be applicable here....
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Swervyn » Fri May 22, 2009 2:36 pm

Booney wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
Booney wrote:In Europe, "Keep left unless overtaking" signs are policed, if you dont do as it says you are booked and fined.

So in Europe, where they drive on the right, drivers are encouraged to overtake in the right lanes? :-\


Perhaps not taking everything in a literal sense and deciphering the information may be applicable here....


Pretty sure they drive on the left in Europe anyway champ
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Booney » Fri May 22, 2009 2:55 pm

Champ? :lol:
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Dirko » Fri May 22, 2009 2:56 pm

Booney wrote:Champ? :lol:


The "A" was meant to be a "U".... :lol:
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Dissident » Fri May 22, 2009 4:51 pm

I always thought keep left unless over taking (sans signs) was on roads 70 and above, or 80 and above ...
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Dog_ger » Fri May 22, 2009 5:15 pm

What about 10% of all vehicles on S.A. roads are not registered &/or insured.

BOOK EM All.

Ha, what about all the people that owe money in fines.

Come on whats going on in S.A..? :shock:
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Wedgie » Fri May 22, 2009 5:43 pm

Dissident wrote:I always thought keep left unless over taking (sans signs) was on roads 70 and above, or 80 and above ...

Its 80 and above although there is a road rule that mentions keeping as left as is practicable IIRC.
But as a common courtesy to my fellow motorist I always keep left if there's traffic that is going faster than me. If there's noone around I'll usually keep right on a 50/60 road to allow people easier passage from a side street.
Going down South Road or the Expressway you'd think the signs said keep right unless overtaking more times than not!

It all comes down to common sense and common courtesy, if people don't have it they shouldn't be on the road IMHO.
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Ian » Sun May 24, 2009 1:04 am

The Ash Man wrote:
Ian wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
Ian wrote:I'm glad they are finally doing something about it, unless it is foggy or in misty rain all they do is make extra glare for other road users, FFS they are FOG lights not a status symbol.


You are kidding surely. These are stock standard lights that are in no way brighter than the other headlights. The difference is they point in a different direction (wider).

Who said anything about brightness?

I only mentioned glare, but now you mention it, most low beams do have lower wattage globes than fog lights as well as the glare issues created by the spread of the beam.

The beam is not angled to the left as low beams are, not only that, it is spread wide to the left and right side as well as straight ahead.

It is illegal to have them on unless in times of low visibility for a very good reason in normal conditions they provide far more glare than a low beam headlamp.


Not exactly true
Normal headlights have twin filaments the Low beam is 55W hi beam is 60W
Most fog lights run a 35W globe


A lot of fog lights run 55W (the max allowed), then you get the knobs that fit brighter than that.

The other one's that shit me off, driving or spot lights used for reverse lights
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Psyber » Sun May 24, 2009 9:16 am

Swervyn wrote:
Booney wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
Booney wrote:In Europe, "Keep left unless overtaking" signs are policed, if you dont do as it says you are booked and fined.
So in Europe, where they drive on the right, drivers are encouraged to overtake in the right lanes? :-\
Perhaps not taking everything in a literal sense and deciphering the information may be applicable here....
Pretty sure they drive on the left in Europe anyway champ

I was fairly sure they drive on the right in Europe, like the USA ,and that driving on the left is a peculiarity of the old British Empire and its remnants.
However, I checked.

This reference to driving in Italy is interesting:
http://www.caradvice.com.au/11224/europ ... right-way/
There was rarely anybody who was in the left hand lane for longer than the time needed to overtake.

And this one about Germany:
http://driving.drive-alive.co.uk/driving-in-germany.htm
Make sure you Drive Alive! Drive on the right!
Be especially careful when setting off from service stations or restaurants on the left side of the road.
Take care when overtaking - allow more space between you and the car in front so you can see further down the road ahead.
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Mic » Sun May 24, 2009 9:54 am

Europeans drive on the right hand side.
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Re: Revenue raising at it's worst

Postby Wedgie » Sun May 24, 2009 10:33 am

Was talking to a few Europeans when I was in Thailand, I can't remember where they were from, one of the Nordic countries (I think it was Sweden) who said they used to drive on the left but have changed over to the right to match the most of rest of Europe (with the obvious exclusion being the UK).
They said you wouldn't believe the carnage they had in the changeover phase! :shock:
Anyone been through the Chunnell and know where and how it changes over?

<edit> Just did a quick google and found this interesting site that details it all:
http://users.telenet.be/worldstandards/driving%20on%20the%20left.htm
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