The South Australian Political Landscape

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:42 am

Dogwatcher wrote:Yes or no, Jimmy?


Would I?
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:43 am

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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:58 am

Dogwatcher wrote:;)


Trust me, its a flattering photo.
And I am married, although it would appear having a funny, flirty friendship is OK.
I'm not keen on rabbit fricassee either.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby tipper » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:34 pm

not sure if its all one way:

http://www.news.com.au/national/south-a ... 6809030119

is this the start of the inevitable SA liberal implosion or just a media beat up?
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:48 pm

Beat up.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:49 pm

The more bernadi opens his mouth the better off the labor party will be
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Gozu » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:57 pm

bennymacca wrote:The more bernadi opens his mouth the better off the labor party will be


His book has proven to be quite popular!

http://www.amazon.com/THE-CONSERVATIVE- ... ewpoints=1
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:35 pm

Gozu wrote:
bennymacca wrote:The more bernadi opens his mouth the better off the labor party will be


His book has proven to be quite popular!

http://www.amazon.com/THE-CONSERVATIVE- ... ewpoints=1


LMAO that's great
Upsetting the pinkos is always good fun
I always love the way they think they are moderate, their targets are extremists, and yet they go to extremes to abuse others.
For the record, I don't agree with him either, but I do defend his right to say what he thinks.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:39 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:For the record, I don't agree with him either, but I do defend his right to say what he thinks.


Absolutely, but you have to start wondering when even people on the moderate side of his own party start arguing with him, (vanstone, Turnbull), not exactly "pinkos," that he might be a little out of touch with the mainstream views of society.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:44 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:For the record, I don't agree with him either, but I do defend his right to say what he thinks.


Absolutely, but you have to start wondering when even people on the moderate side of his own party start arguing with him, (vanstone, Turnbull), not exactly "pinkos," that he might be a little out of touch with the mainstream views of society.


You think Vanstone & Turnbull have mainstream views?
"Mainstream" is a term used by media when they feel like making someone look like an extremist.
I dont put any faith in the media's ability to put forward any comment as mainstream - ask them to prove its mainstream. The vast majority of time they cant when challenged
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:46 pm

So you are suggesting communism or fascism and nothing in between?
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:10 pm

bennymacca wrote:So you are suggesting communism or fascism and nothing in between?


No, the world is a big place with lots of people with different views.
If you really look into how communism and fascism have worked, both have been a totalitarian system of government.

Brow beating others into your views never works (safooty.net is a good example - everyone's allowed to express their views and I doubt anyone actually totally changes them due to someone else's argument)

Cory has a different view on lots of subjects - why should he be forced to shut up because the vocal don't like it.
I am not Catholic nor anti-choice, so I don't agree with him, but he (and others) are allowed to say what he wants.
You may be surprised how many people out there actually agree with him.

I was one of the few people who said the River Murray's problems were cyclical but was continually told its due to global warming; both on here and by the media - it must have been the mainstream view because the media were banging on about the effects of global warming? Now, we're taking more water out of it than ever before. I should have shut up and gone with the flow because it was their "mainstream view"?

I also remember people on here saying Tony Abbott would never get elected. They got that wrong as well!!
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby dedja » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:39 pm

Well he never should have been elected but that's another matter ...
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:40 pm

Good post.

I guess when I meant mainstream I meant views consistent with the majority if the liberal party. Not saying he doesn't have a right to voice his views, just that there would be much more people disagree than agree with him, even on the right.

With regards to the river murray, but, with respect, your understanding might be off a little. A casual reading of the media almost always takes out of context the scientific viewpoint, because they are after headlines.

Mostly what happens is there is a big drought. It goes on for a while, people ask scientists about it, they ask do you think global warming has anything to do with it? Scientist says yes, global warming has a trend towards making events like this more severe than they otherwise would have been, journo reports that as "drought due to global warming"

Global warming and cyclical events, even years long ones like La Niña or El Niño creating droughts are not mutually exclusive, and it doesn't mean we will never have a flood again. But what it does mean is that this same cyclical event would have been slightly different 80 years ago. Drought might not have lasted as long, all other things being equal.

I regard it as a huge failing on the part of the scientists that they are struggling to communicate this to the masses. As much as the journalists and editors writing the headlines are to blame, so too are the scientists that don't do enough to get the scientific viewpoint across. And they have failed so badly that people actually think there is still a debate about this in the scientific community.

Derail over haha
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Gozu » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:06 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
Cory has a different view on lots of subjects - why should he be forced to shut up because the vocal don't like it.
I am not Catholic nor anti-choice, so I don't agree with him, but he (and others) are allowed to say what he wants.
You may be surprised how many people out there actually agree with him.


No one is saying that nutter can't have his say (published book and all that) just that his views are extreme.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby tipper » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:26 pm

i was more pointing the article out not for what he said (which i disagree with, but i also agree he has a right to say it) but for the inferences that there is the beginnings of another public liberal spat on the horizon. so much for doing a bradbury and waiting for the opposition to trip over their own feet. even if the labs do trip up, if the libs arent in a position to capitilise its irrelevant, just like the last two state elections......
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:24 pm

Bernardi is federal and Vanstone is just living off her time in the sun. Probably missing the limelight.
Too bad she has trouble remembering who set her up for the fat life
Nothing to do with State Libs much to Labor's dismay
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby cracka » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:45 pm

bennymacca wrote:The more bernadi opens his mouth the better off the labor party will be

Yeah but Labor's got Koutsontonis to F@#$ them up so I think that's a draw.
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:41 pm

Yep - we got all those bad roads covered in our 30 year plan. We'll get started in 28 years time.

When Labor lose, lout sonatas will be in there like a Greek up a Foley with his best mate Peter Malinauskas and the shoppies union right behind him
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Re: The South Australian Political Landscape

Postby cracka » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:51 pm

cracka wrote:
bennymacca wrote:The more bernadi opens his mouth the better off the labor party will be

Yeah but Labor's got Koutsontonis to F@#$ them up so I think that's a draw.

Actually there is something he should get credit for & that is the dual roundabouts at Brittania. IMO they are working well, I do them in a semi & it is a crap load easier now.
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