by happilyretired » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:11 pm
by happilyretired » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:14 pm
by double-blue » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:27 pm
by happilyretired » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:38 pm
by DO IT DO IT » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:20 pm
by thrilling finish » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:23 pm
DO IT DO IT wrote:The Smithfield Football Club have got to be kidding. They cannot seriously say that Smithfield didn't on numerous occasions do things that have no place on or off the football field or in society for that matter. If you think you are totally innocent of any other issues other than the 2 stated, well your club is along way away from rectifying the culture of your club.
Sick and tired of the woo is me attitude of Smithfield.I excuse the coach on this cause he did his best to curb it but violence and intimidation was alive and well at Smithfield all season.
Many a player and club is happy to see the back end of this club. Hopefully it will be for a long time.
by double-blue » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:28 pm
thrilling finish wrote:DO IT DO IT wrote:The Smithfield Football Club have got to be kidding. They cannot seriously say that Smithfield didn't on numerous occasions do things that have no place on or off the football field or in society for that matter. If you think you are totally innocent of any other issues other than the 2 stated, well your club is along way away from rectifying the culture of your club.
Sick and tired of the woo is me attitude of Smithfield.I excuse the coach on this cause he did his best to curb it but violence and intimidation was alive and well at Smithfield all season.
Many a player and club is happy to see the back end of this club. Hopefully it will be for a long time.
I suppose that's why not a single Smithfield player was reported all season by the umpires
by Jugs » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:31 pm
double-blue wrote:thrilling finish wrote:DO IT DO IT wrote:The Smithfield Football Club have got to be kidding. They cannot seriously say that Smithfield didn't on numerous occasions do things that have no place on or off the football field or in society for that matter. If you think you are totally innocent of any other issues other than the 2 stated, well your club is along way away from rectifying the culture of your club.
Sick and tired of the woo is me attitude of Smithfield.I excuse the coach on this cause he did his best to curb it but violence and intimidation was alive and well at Smithfield all season.
Many a player and club is happy to see the back end of this club. Hopefully it will be for a long time.
I suppose that's why not a single Smithfield player was reported all season by the umpires
If you've seen the umpires in Div 7 you'd know they don't exactly see everything that goes on
by thrilling finish » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:36 pm
double-blue wrote:thrilling finish wrote:DO IT DO IT wrote:The Smithfield Football Club have got to be kidding. They cannot seriously say that Smithfield didn't on numerous occasions do things that have no place on or off the football field or in society for that matter. If you think you are totally innocent of any other issues other than the 2 stated, well your club is along way away from rectifying the culture of your club.
Sick and tired of the woo is me attitude of Smithfield.I excuse the coach on this cause he did his best to curb it but violence and intimidation was alive and well at Smithfield all season.
Many a player and club is happy to see the back end of this club. Hopefully it will be for a long time.
I suppose that's why not a single Smithfield player was reported all season by the umpires
If you've seen the umpires in Div 7 you'd know they don't exactly see everything that goes on
by thrilling finish » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:41 pm
Jugs wrote:Seen the umpires and Smithfield. If I was an umpire the threats from players and then crowd would be enough for me not to place a report. The umpires livelyhood or reporting a thug, easy decision
by Phantom Gossiper » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:44 pm
happilyretired wrote:I see Smithfield FC have posted this on their Facebook page this afternoon..(hopefully its posts ok as i am copy and pasting)
Notice of complaint
Att: Gino Capogreco, Grant Goodall and SAAFL board members.
To whom it may concern,
I am writing to you on behalf of the Smithfield Football Club in relation to the recent events that have occurred involving our club being suspended for the remainder of the 2013 season and possible non admittance in the 2014 season.
We as a club wish to express our serious concerns over our... treatment and the processes followed by SAAFL in handling this particular case which stemmed from alleged incidents during our game against Flinders Park, and the tribunal hearing that followed. It is our belief that SAAFL have not followed their own due processDid you read the rules and check that they DON'T have the power to do this? in firstly laying charges against our players without any report made by an umpire or SAAFL official, without any video evidence being presented, without any witnesses other than the opposition players, without our witness statements being admitted in the hearing, without any injuries being reported by any opposition players and the only evidence given prior to the hearing was a letter of complaint and allegations sent in by the opposition club. Dot points would've been better and clearer, more consise and easy to follow
In correspondence received from SAAFL prior to the tribunal hearing states failure to attend the hearing by our players and coach will “affect the sanctions being imposed on your club”. To us this indicates the decision of guilt had already been decided before the tribunal hearing had been held. This is a common policy amongst all sports/judicial systems - even court of law has this by-lawThere was also only notice given of possible charges being laid against individual players and the coach, no indication was given that charges were possibly going to be imposed on the Smithfield Football Club. We have serious concerns over the tribunal process and believe this alone should have been sufficient reason for an appeal through the SAAFL to be granted. Again check the rules and regulations as to the criteria required for an appeal to be granted, i thought (and could be wrong) that new evidence needed to be presented?This did not happen and our attempts to have an appeal through the SACFL have after nearly five weeks of waiting, have still not resulted in any confirmation of an appeal hearing being granted.
In relation to the penalties imposed on our club, being suspended for the remainder of season 2013 (including finals which we had qualified to play) and deduction of two premiership points, we believe the tribunal have acted excessively without taking into consideration some important factors. Up until the game in question, no Smithfield player had been reported all season. How many Yellow/Red cards? (Not a loaded question, just curious)Our club had only one player suspended in the previous three years, this is below the leagues average for the entire competition. That doesn't mean the club is well behaved, could be they are good at getting away with their infringements What's to say a SAAFL exec didn't turn up and watch a couple of games and make some observationsTo then go straight to a club suspension, especially with the circumstances surrounding the case outlined above, we feel is hugely excessive and unfair. We are also aware of some other clubs offences and the penalties they have received this season, none of these compare similarly to our penalty of the entire football club being removed from the competition.It is harsh, and big kick in the guts, Smithfield were definately a contender.
Our club would also point out the inaccurate comments made by the SAAFL CEO Grant Goodall in the media regarding our club’s record and overall behaviour this season. To quote Mr Goodall’s remarks in the Advertiser article being that “Smithfield players and supporters have been involved in a string of incidents this season.” I would like him to explain to us what he means by this statement as up until the game in question, none of our players had been reported this season at all. As for our supporters, we had the incident during the Ingle Farm night game involving a fight amongst the crowd. As we reported in the explanation the SAAFL requested from us, no Smithfield player, official or member was involved in this incident. The one person arrested by the police that night has no connection to this club. The public comment made by Mr Goodall is, in our opinion, not only inaccurate, but damaging to our club and we strongly believe a public apology and correction is in order. Disagree - supporters are still responsibility to some degree of the club and do still reflect on them. Wasn't there also an incident at Angle Vale earlier in the season?
The SAAFL would more than likely know the situation this club was in three years ago in almost having to fold football altogether. But with the current committee we have not only been able to keep the club alive, but rejuvenate it and enable it to look forward to a brighter future. The SAAFL is now denying us this by not guaranteeing our acceptance into the league next year. We cannot advertise or attract coaches, players and support staff if we do not know if we will even be playing. We have met every request by the league so far in that we are prepared to work with the SAAFL to ensure we have the required policies and structures in place to be successful next year. We are not however prepared to accept the treatment we have received this year and this is why we continue to pursue an appeal and seek to have the SAAFL board review the processes and outcomes of the tribunal.
Yours faithfully
Simon Coulthard
President
Smithfield Sports & Social Club
by Phantom Gossiper » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:46 pm
by Jugs » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:58 pm
thrilling finish wrote:Jugs wrote:Seen the umpires and Smithfield. If I was an umpire the threats from players and then crowd would be enough for me not to place a report. The umpires livelyhood or reporting a thug, easy decision
What are you trying to say?
by great catch » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:00 pm
DO IT DO IT wrote:The Smithfield Football Club have got to be kidding. They cannot seriously say that Smithfield didn't on numerous occasions do things that have no place on or off the football field or in society for that matter. If you think you are totally innocent of any other issues other than the 2 stated, well your club is along way away from rectifying the culture of your club.
Sick and tired of the woo is me attitude of Smithfield.I excuse the coach on this cause he did his best to curb it but violence and intimidation was alive and well at Smithfield all season.
Many a player and club is happy to see the back end of this club. Hopefully it will be for a long time.
by Robb_Stark » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:01 pm
by double-blue » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:10 pm
Robb_Stark wrote:so i see people saying in here smithfield had no reports and others say cause umpires to scared answer me this how would a club get rid of the problem if the umpires dont report the club wouldnt know anything bad is going on...and yes not all people on the committee etc can make it to all games so unless reports are made then smithfield have a valid arguement that there players have done nothing wrong
by Phantom Gossiper » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:16 pm
Robb_Stark wrote:so i see people saying in here smithfield had no reports and others say cause umpires to scared answer me this how would a club get rid of the problem if the umpires dont report the club wouldnt know anything bad is going on...and yes not all people on the committee etc can make it to all games so unless reports are made then smithfield have a valid arguement that there players have done nothing wrong
by Phantom Gossiper » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:16 pm
double-blue wrote:If the committee doesn't know what happens on game day then that in itself is a reflection on the mis-management of the club. Not too dissmilar to the Essendon situation, it's not good enough to say 'We don't know what goes on'
by The Cows » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:42 pm
great catch wrote:DO IT DO IT wrote:The Smithfield Football Club have got to be kidding. They cannot seriously say that Smithfield didn't on numerous occasions do things that have no place on or off the football field or in society for that matter. If you think you are totally innocent of any other issues other than the 2 stated, well your club is along way away from rectifying the culture of your club.
Sick and tired of the woo is me attitude of Smithfield.I excuse the coach on this cause he did his best to curb it but violence and intimidation was alive and well at Smithfield all season.
Many a player and club is happy to see the back end of this club. Hopefully it will be for a long time.
YOU ARE A COMPLETE JOKE, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HAPPENED
by old fullback » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:02 pm
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