2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Bully » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:33 pm

dedja wrote:Well strictly not the last federal election but a by-election because Kevin'07 has zipped ... Labor retain his seat in today's by-election.




I noticed you forgot to add that there was a swing AWAY from (again) the labor party in Griffith by election ;)
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:36 pm

I laughed the the idiot Labor people said it was a slap in the face to Abbott and Newman when there was actually a swing against Labor.
Then again, they've shown they don't understand numbers
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Gozu » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:55 pm

Both sides talk shit when they win.

I laughed because I remember right-wingers suggesting Bill Glasson would beat Rudd at the last election and then again saying he would win the seat at this by-election!
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:12 pm

well jimmy, you can laugh at those people who said it was a slap in the face to Abbott/Newman but it is, when the betting opened up Bill Glasson was $1.10 and on Saturday it was the labor who started $1.10

so in effect Rudd did his party a favour by quitting when he did as he knew it would give Abbott time to start ******* up especially now workchoices are on the way back in
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Bully » Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:34 pm

lol, yeah a second swing away from labor ( 8% margin that a sitting PM had in his own seat ,TWICE ) is good for sure


I think the K Rudd of 07 is still blinding labor supporters ..... =))
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Psyber » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:11 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:I laughed the the idiot Labor people said it was a slap in the face to Abbott and Newman when there was actually a swing against Labor.
Then again, they've shown they don't understand numbers

That is the core issue.
What they do with finances and running up deficits was why I turned away, eventually, from my Labor upbringing and moved across to the Liberal Party.
I started to have doubts in 1975, but didn't actually join the Liberal Party until 1996.

I've been tempted to move back once or twice, but something always happens to make me not take the final step of voting Labor again.
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:59 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:well jimmy, you can laugh at those people who said it was a slap in the face to Abbott/Newman but it is, when the betting opened up Bill Glasson was $1.10 and on Saturday it was the labor who started $1.10

so in effect Rudd did his party a favour by quitting when he did as he knew it would give Abbott time to start ******* up especially now workchoices are on the way back in


Betting smetting - what would they know?
Why wasn't there a swing back to Labor then?
Not only did they consolidate the previous swing, but they added to it, so yes, I am laughing at the people who said it was a slap in the face.
It just shows that not all of Australia think they are screwing up - just the people who hope it happens
Workchoices :roll: Surely there's better stuff to hang your hopes on.
There's a very tough budget coming up that you should have some fertile ground to work with, although, we could do a Comrade Weatherill and just continue to send the place broke. I would love to see the Weatherill home budget - I wonder if they live beyond their means!!
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Bully » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:48 pm

swings away from the labor party again does not matter to labor supporters thou?

I am sure if it was a swing away from the LNP, they would all be on this forum saying it is the downfall of tony abbott ;)

there is a by election for Redcliffe in 2 weeks , and I do expect a swing away from the LNP because of the former member and his activities ...
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby shoe boy » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:00 am

Jimmy_041 wrote:I laughed the the idiot Labor people said it was a slap in the face to Abbott and Newman when there was actually a swing against Labor.
Then again, they've shown they don't understand numbers


Jimmy .8% swing really!!
A win is a win which ever spin you want to put on it and F--K ME your mates are spinning out of control.
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:24 am

shoe boy wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote:I laughed the the idiot Labor people said it was a slap in the face to Abbott and Newman when there was actually a swing against Labor.
Then again, they've shown they don't understand numbers


Jimmy .8% swing really!!
A win is a win which ever spin you want to put on it and F--K ME your mates are spinning out of control.


I think saying it is a smack in the face for the Libs is the ultimate spin

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If you got a 5% swing back the other way, you'd have something to crow about.
It's a smack in the face for Shorten
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:27 am

Wait a second, so the libs lose, and somehow it looks bad for Labour??? Can someone please explain that to me????
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby heater31 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:35 am

woodublieve12 wrote:Wait a second, so the libs lose, and somehow it looks bad for Labour??? Can someone please explain that to me????



Slight swing to the government even though they didn't win the seat.....
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:08 am

woodublieve12 wrote:Wait a second, so the libs lose, and somehow it looks bad for Labour??? Can someone please explain that to me????


A swing to the Libs even though they have been performing terribly and Labor claim its a slap in the face for the Libs :shock:
Just shows how bad Labor have been performing if they couldn't grab some of the swing back.
It's just substance over rhetoric
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/swing-to-lnp-sours-labor-win-in-griffith-byelection/story-fn59niix-1226822054608#
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:33 am

Looks like everyone is a winner
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Bully » Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:38 pm

i think people are forgetting that K Rudd had a 8% margin when he was sitting. The last federal election the LNP member reduced that to 2% or something. Very hard to lose a seat with 8% margin from the previous election.

a swing away from whatever party tells the electorate that people are voting against them. I.e., when the Redcliffe By election is held there will be a swing away from the LNP....


If LABOR fans can not see the outcome there, then there is something wrong .. yes, labor won, with a swing against them (TWICE). Not something I would be putting on my resume, but that's me.
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby bennymacca » Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:47 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:Betting smetting - what would they know?


well they know how not to lose their money thats for sure. as soon as people start smashing one side of the line, they rapidly change it so that the amount of money coming in on either side is roughly even - thats how these lines work.

so for something to swing from 1.1 on one side to 1.1 on the other shows a significant amount of money (or a significant change in public opinion)

yes there was a swing against, but K-Rudd was one of the most popular PMs in history when he was first voted in in 07, so presumably it would have been with a unusually high margin too. so sucessive swings dont seem that out of the question.
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:22 pm

at least Ruddy didn't lose his seat when he was PM
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:36 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:at least Ruddy didn't lose his seat when he was PM


He was sacked twice - once by his own people and another by the Australian people
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:41 pm

but didn't lose his seat!
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Re: 2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

Postby Gozu » Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:21 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:at least Ruddy didn't lose his seat when he was PM


He was sacked twice - once by his own people and another by the Australian people


Howard was sacked by his own party (as OL), the Australian people and by the constituents of Bennelong!
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