SAAFL Division 7 2014

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Who will win the Division 7 Grand Final

Flinders Park
7
13%
Modbury
2
4%
Houghton
10
19%
Flinders Uni
4
7%
North Pines
3
6%
SHOC
1
2%
Smithfield
23
43%
SMOSH West Lakes
0
No votes
Henley
3
6%
Adelaide Uni
1
2%
 
Total votes : 54

Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby marbles » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:32 pm

Robb_Stark wrote:how does North Pines combat the points system each week you only get 15 points


does any teams points ever get checked
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby Q. » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:13 pm

marbles wrote:
Robb_Stark wrote:how does North Pines combat the points system each week you only get 15 points


does any teams points ever get checked


They'd probably only check it if a team sheet came into question.
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby tomo » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:39 pm

Q. wrote:
marbles wrote:
Robb_Stark wrote:how does North Pines combat the points system each week you only get 15 points


does any teams points ever get checked


They'd probably only check it if a team sheet came into question.



And what are the consequences supposed to be if using too many points???
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby marbles » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:44 pm

tomo wrote:
Q. wrote:
marbles wrote:
Robb_Stark wrote:how does North Pines combat the points system each week you only get 15 points


does any teams points ever get checked


They'd probably only check it if a team sheet came into question.



And what are the consequences supposed to be if using too many points???


wow kinda amazing no judicial system in place for something so dedicated. over 20 divisions with 5 games occurring, 100 matches every week and not 1 side yet to cross the limit yet this season? :shock:
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby Q. » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:46 pm

tomo wrote:
Q. wrote:
marbles wrote:
Robb_Stark wrote:how does North Pines combat the points system each week you only get 15 points


does any teams points ever get checked


They'd probably only check it if a team sheet came into question.



And what are the consequences supposed to be if using too many points???


Kilburn lost premiership points for doing it a couple of seasons back.
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby marbles » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:53 pm

how can a individual player's "point/s" be observed?

can it be viewed when logging in to sporting pulse?
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby Q. » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:01 pm

marbles wrote:how can a individual player's "point/s" be observed?

can it be viewed when logging in to sporting pulse?


It's up to the club to assign points to players.
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby marbles » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:08 pm

Q. wrote:
marbles wrote:how can a individual player's "point/s" be observed?

can it be viewed when logging in to sporting pulse?


It's up to the club to assign points to players.


so only the club itself can see what a player's point might be? no one externally can calculate their opponents total points for last weeks game?
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby tomo » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:22 pm

This whole point system just sounds like a big load of bullshit really!!!

Just a myth put in place to reassure clubs that other clubs are not recruiting aggressively!!!!
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby marbles » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:33 pm

ok for example let us consider the side who is playing like a div 5 side in a div 7 division

here are all their approved clearances this year, this does not include about 15 other names that came from the juniors???

Adelaide Plains Football League Smithfield Nowland, Scott Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
Angle Vale Smithfield Earley, Peter Approved 2014-05-13 2014-05-15
Angle Vale Smithfield Mathews, Andrew Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
Angle Vale Smithfield Stansborough, Richard Approved 2014-04-03 2014-04-09
Angle Vale Smithfield Thompson, Anthony Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
Angle Vale Smithfield Wilson, Craig Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
Barossa Light and Gawler Football Association Smithfield Owen, John Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Barossa Light and Gawler Football Association Smithfield Wallace, Keigan Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Bellman, Ian Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Jasper, Jonathan Approved 2014-03-25 2014-04-02
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Myslinski, Nathan Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Central United Smithfield Clark, Corey Approved 2014-04-03 2014-04-04
Central United Smithfield Garner, Mark Approved 2014-03-08 2014-03-11
Eastern Park Smithfield Arnold, Tristan Approved 2014-04-28 2014-05-08
Eastern Park Smithfield Knowles, Terry Approved 2014-06-12 2014-06-14
Eastern Park Smithfield Swepstone, Tyron Approved 2014-05-15 2014-05-17
Eastern Park Smithfield Towell, Ben Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Elizabeth Smithfield Mcgrath, Kevin Approved 2014-04-09 2014-04-10
Elizabeth Smithfield Taylor, Michael Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Great Southern Football League (SA) Smithfield Stocks, Kane Approved 2014-03-25 2014-03-27
Hills Football League SA Smithfield Moore, Blake Approved 2014-03-25 2014-03-28
Hills Football League SA Smithfield Shaw, Liam Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
North Haven Smithfield Henneker, Gavin Approved 2014-05-15 2014-05-16
Salisbury North Smithfield Millwood, Tony Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
South Australia National Football League (SANFL) Smithfield Henneker, Gavin Pending 2014-05-13
Trinity OS Smithfield Wanganeen, Damien Approved 2014-05-09 2014-05-13
Wimmera Football League Smithfield Norton, Trent Approved 2014-04-05 2014-04-05
Wingfield Royals Smithfield Thatcher, Mark Approved 2014-04-10 2014-05-08


do all of these players get assigned points to their name or can somebody who knows the rules do it here by quoting the above????
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby marbles » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:47 pm

i counted 9 of these boys played in last weeks game against c-grader (cant be bothered training) smosh :)

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/round_info.cgi?a=MATCH&fixture=124221513&c=1-114-0-292367-0&pool=1
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby tomo » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:53 pm

marbles wrote:ok for example let us consider the side who is playing like a div 5 side in a div 7 division

here are all their approved clearances this year, this does not include about 15 other names that came from the juniors???

Adelaide Plains Football League Smithfield Nowland, Scott Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
Angle Vale Smithfield Earley, Peter Approved 2014-05-13 2014-05-15
Angle Vale Smithfield Mathews, Andrew Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
Angle Vale Smithfield Stansborough, Richard Approved 2014-04-03 2014-04-09
Angle Vale Smithfield Thompson, Anthony Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
Angle Vale Smithfield Wilson, Craig Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
Barossa Light and Gawler Football Association Smithfield Owen, John Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Barossa Light and Gawler Football Association Smithfield Wallace, Keigan Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Bellman, Ian Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Jasper, Jonathan Approved 2014-03-25 2014-04-02
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Myslinski, Nathan Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Central United Smithfield Clark, Corey Approved 2014-04-03 2014-04-04
Central United Smithfield Garner, Mark Approved 2014-03-08 2014-03-11
Eastern Park Smithfield Arnold, Tristan Approved 2014-04-28 2014-05-08
Eastern Park Smithfield Knowles, Terry Approved 2014-06-12 2014-06-14
Eastern Park Smithfield Swepstone, Tyron Approved 2014-05-15 2014-05-17
Eastern Park Smithfield Towell, Ben Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Elizabeth Smithfield Mcgrath, Kevin Approved 2014-04-09 2014-04-10
Elizabeth Smithfield Taylor, Michael Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Great Southern Football League (SA) Smithfield Stocks, Kane Approved 2014-03-25 2014-03-27
Hills Football League SA Smithfield Moore, Blake Approved 2014-03-25 2014-03-28
Hills Football League SA Smithfield Shaw, Liam Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
North Haven Smithfield Henneker, Gavin Approved 2014-05-15 2014-05-16
Salisbury North Smithfield Millwood, Tony Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
South Australia National Football League (SANFL) Smithfield Henneker, Gavin Pending 2014-05-13
Trinity OS Smithfield Wanganeen, Damien Approved 2014-05-09 2014-05-13
Wimmera Football League Smithfield Norton, Trent Approved 2014-04-05 2014-04-05
Wingfield Royals Smithfield Thatcher, Mark Approved 2014-04-10 2014-05-08


do all of these players get assigned points to their name or can somebody who knows the rules do it here by quoting the above????



Sounds like a crap load of points!!!

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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby The Informer » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:32 am

tomo wrote:
marbles wrote:ok for example let us consider the side who is playing like a div 5 side in a div 7 division

here are all their approved clearances this year, this does not include about 15 other names that came from the juniors???

Adelaide Plains Football League Smithfield Nowland, Scott Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
Angle Vale Smithfield Earley, Peter Approved 2014-05-13 2014-05-15
Angle Vale Smithfield Mathews, Andrew Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
Angle Vale Smithfield Stansborough, Richard Approved 2014-04-03 2014-04-09
Angle Vale Smithfield Thompson, Anthony Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
Angle Vale Smithfield Wilson, Craig Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
Barossa Light and Gawler Football Association Smithfield Owen, John Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Barossa Light and Gawler Football Association Smithfield Wallace, Keigan Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Bellman, Ian Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Jasper, Jonathan Approved 2014-03-25 2014-04-02
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Myslinski, Nathan Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Central United Smithfield Clark, Corey Approved 2014-04-03 2014-04-04
Central United Smithfield Garner, Mark Approved 2014-03-08 2014-03-11
Eastern Park Smithfield Arnold, Tristan Approved 2014-04-28 2014-05-08
Eastern Park Smithfield Knowles, Terry Approved 2014-06-12 2014-06-14
Eastern Park Smithfield Swepstone, Tyron Approved 2014-05-15 2014-05-17
Eastern Park Smithfield Towell, Ben Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Elizabeth Smithfield Mcgrath, Kevin Approved 2014-04-09 2014-04-10
Elizabeth Smithfield Taylor, Michael Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Great Southern Football League (SA) Smithfield Stocks, Kane Approved 2014-03-25 2014-03-27
Hills Football League SA Smithfield Moore, Blake Approved 2014-03-25 2014-03-28
Hills Football League SA Smithfield Shaw, Liam Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
North Haven Smithfield Henneker, Gavin Approved 2014-05-15 2014-05-16
Salisbury North Smithfield Millwood, Tony Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
South Australia National Football League (SANFL) Smithfield Henneker, Gavin Pending 2014-05-13
Trinity OS Smithfield Wanganeen, Damien Approved 2014-05-09 2014-05-13
Wimmera Football League Smithfield Norton, Trent Approved 2014-04-05 2014-04-05
Wingfield Royals Smithfield Thatcher, Mark Approved 2014-04-10 2014-05-08


do all of these players get assigned points to their name or can somebody who knows the rules do it here by quoting the above????



Sounds like a crap load of points!!!

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I do know a few seasons ago after a complaint from another club, Mawson lakes had to produce all our clearance paper work and all out points to the League.
They had 48hrs to produce it i believe it was.
If the players cleared to Smithfield played a majority of A grade games for their previous club and dont qualify for the junior or games played rule, then they would attract points.
The team that plays against them each week will be able to see how many points they play on as it gets printed out on the team sheet handed to the other teams team manager.
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:41 am

marbles wrote:ok for example let us consider the side who is playing like a div 5 side in a div 7 division

here are all their approved clearances this year, this does not include about 15 other names that came from the juniors???

Adelaide Plains Football League Smithfield Nowland, Scott Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
Angle Vale Smithfield Earley, Peter Approved 2014-05-13 2014-05-15
Angle Vale Smithfield Mathews, Andrew Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02 **
Angle Vale Smithfield Stansborough, Richard Approved 2014-04-03 2014-04-09**
Angle Vale Smithfield Thompson, Anthony Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02**
Angle Vale Smithfield Wilson, Craig Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
Barossa Light and Gawler Football Association Smithfield Owen, John Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Barossa Light and Gawler Football Association Smithfield Wallace, Keigan Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Bellman, Ian Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02**
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Jasper, Jonathan Approved 2014-03-25 2014-04-02
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Myslinski, Nathan Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Central United Smithfield Clark, Corey Approved 2014-04-03 2014-04-04
Central United Smithfield Garner, Mark Approved 2014-03-08 2014-03-11
Eastern Park Smithfield Arnold, Tristan Approved 2014-04-28 2014-05-08
Eastern Park Smithfield Knowles, Terry Approved 2014-06-12 2014-06-14**
Eastern Park Smithfield Swepstone, Tyron Approved 2014-05-15 2014-05-17
Eastern Park Smithfield Towell, Ben Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
Elizabeth Smithfield Mcgrath, Kevin Approved 2014-04-09 2014-04-10**
Elizabeth Smithfield Taylor, Michael Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21**
Great Southern Football League (SA) Smithfield Stocks, Kane Approved 2014-03-25 2014-03-27
Hills Football League SA Smithfield Moore, Blake Approved 2014-03-25 2014-03-28**
Hills Football League SA Smithfield Shaw, Liam Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
North Haven Smithfield Henneker, Gavin Approved 2014-05-15 2014-05-16
Salisbury North Smithfield Millwood, Tony Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
South Australia National Football League (SANFL) Smithfield Henneker, Gavin Pending 2014-05-13
Trinity OS Smithfield Wanganeen, Damien Approved 2014-05-09 2014-05-13
Wimmera Football League Smithfield Norton, Trent Approved 2014-04-05 2014-04-05
Wingfield Royals Smithfield Thatcher, Mark Approved 2014-04-10 2014-05-08


do all of these players get assigned points to their name or can somebody who knows the rules do it here by quoting the above????


All of the ones marked with ** played all of their juniors at Smithfield. I think you'll find a fair swag of the players are under 18's aswell.
Apart from Peter Earley and Mark Garner, I don't think any others played A grade at their previous club.
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby Q. » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:46 am

Those points on the team sheet are allocated by the club though.

Also, most of Smithfield's recruits have played 25 or more senior games for the club before, so would be worth zero.
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:50 am

Q. wrote:Those points on the team sheet are allocated by the club though.

Also, most of Smithfield's recruits have played 25 or more senior games for the club before, so would be worth zero.


The only points in my day were divided in the carpark on a Saturday night.
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby tomo » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:58 am

Thompson, Matthews played A grade for Angle Vale.

Bellman Played A grade for lodge??
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:01 am

tomo wrote:Thompson, Matthews played A grade for Angle Vale.

Bellman Played A grade for lodge??


Read my post clearly champ, I stated "others", the 3 players listed played "all" of their juniors at Smithfield, Matthews and Bellman would've easily racked up 50 senior games at Smithfield aswell, probably closer to 100.
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby Q. » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:01 am

tomo wrote:Thompson, Matthews played A grade for Angle Vale.

Bellman Played A grade for lodge??


They've all played juniors and seniors at smiffies previously.
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Re: SAAFL Division 7 2014

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:02 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Adelaide Plains Football League Smithfield Nowland, Scott Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
0 - Did not play in 2013 Angle Vale Smithfield Earley, Peter Approved 2014-05-13 2014-05-15
0 - Angle Vale Smithfield Mathews, Andrew Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02 **
0 - Angle Vale Smithfield Stansborough, Richard Approved 2014-04-03 2014-04-09**
0 - Angle Vale Smithfield Thompson, Anthony Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02**
Angle Vale Smithfield Wilson, Craig Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
Barossa Light and Gawler Football Association Smithfield Owen, John Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
-1 Barossa Light and Gawler Football Association Smithfield Wallace, Keigan Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
0 - Brahma Lodge Smithfield Bellman, Ian Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02**
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Jasper, Jonathan Approved 2014-03-25 2014-04-02
Brahma Lodge Smithfield Myslinski, Nathan Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
3 - Central United Smithfield Clark, Corey Approved 2014-04-03 2014-04-04
3- Central United Smithfield Garner, Mark Approved 2014-03-08 2014-03-11
-1 Eastern Park Smithfield Arnold, Tristan Approved 2014-04-28 2014-05-08
0 - Eastern Park Smithfield Knowles, Terry Approved 2014-06-12 2014-06-14**
0 - B Grade 2013 Eastern Park Smithfield Swepstone, Tyron Approved 2014-05-15 2014-05-17
Eastern Park Smithfield Towell, Ben Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21
0 - Elizabeth Smithfield Mcgrath, Kevin Approved 2014-04-09 2014-04-10**
0 - Elizabeth Smithfield Taylor, Michael Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-21**
Great Southern Football League (SA) Smithfield Stocks, Kane Approved 2014-03-25 2014-03-27
0 - Hills Football League SA Smithfield Moore, Blake Approved 2014-03-25 2014-03-28**
-1 Hills Football League SA Smithfield Shaw, Liam Approved 2014-03-06 2014-03-11
Playing B Grade - North Haven Smithfield Henneker, Gavin Approved 2014-05-15 2014-05-16
Playing B Grade - Salisbury North Smithfield Millwood, Tony Approved 2014-03-27 2014-04-02
Double up - South Australia National Football League (SANFL) Smithfield Henneker, Gavin Pending 2014-05-13
Playing B Grade - Trinity OS Smithfield Wanganeen, Damien Approved 2014-05-09 2014-05-13
-1 Wimmera Football League Smithfield Norton, Trent Approved 2014-04-05 2014-04-05
Playing B Grade - Wingfield Royals Smithfield Thatcher, Mark Approved 2014-04-10 2014-05-08
All of the ones marked with ** played all of their juniors at Smithfield. I think you'll find a fair swag of the players are under 18's aswell.
Apart from Peter Earley and Mark Garner, I don't think any others played A grade at their previous club.

Best I could do.. work the rest out yourself marbles :lol:

With 4x u/18's that's neg 1 each, so 19 points available.. it would appear Smithfield are well inside their allowed points
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