Ashes First Test Live Discussion

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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby beeroclock » Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:45 pm

Does anyone else think Tremletts action looks dodgy?
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby Grahaml » Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:48 pm

Batsmen will make mistakes early in their innings, been happening since the game began. No matter the deck or the attack, you're going to get out early at times. What kills you though is when blokes get a start and don't go on with it. Warner, Watson and now Smith all batted for a while and score just over 100 between them when 200 would be a pass for 3 international batsmen.

I've reserved judgement on Watson at 3, but now I've decided he's just not the man. He's a prodigious talent with bat in hand, but he seems to be able to attack or defend. There's no middle ground where he can make runs safely all day that a true #3 can do. Batted himself into a hole then got out. I'm with Ponting on this one, Clarke needs to be our #3.

A lot riding on Haddin and Johnson here. Thankfully they both have the ability and record to do it, but 1 more and things look really dire.
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby Grahaml » Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:49 pm

beeroclock wrote:Does anyone else think Tremletts action looks dodgy?


No. Not sure his arm is perfectly straight, but it doesn't appear to straighten at all.
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby beeroclock » Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:51 pm

Grahaml wrote:
beeroclock wrote:Does anyone else think Tremletts action looks dodgy?


No. Not sure his arm is perfectly straight, but it doesn't appear to straighten at all.

Just looks like two actions.
Looks weird.
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby whufc » Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:57 pm

Grahaml wrote:Batsmen will make mistakes early in their innings, been happening since the game began. No matter the deck or the attack, you're going to get out early at times. What kills you though is when blokes get a start and don't go on with it. Warner, Watson and now Smith all batted for a while and score just over 100 between them when 200 would be a pass for 3 international batsmen.

I've reserved judgement on Watson at 3, but now I've decided he's just not the man. He's a prodigious talent with bat in hand, but he seems to be able to attack or defend. There's no middle ground where he can make runs safely all day that a true #3 can do. Batted himself into a hole then got out. I'm with Ponting on this one, Clarke needs to be our #3.

A lot riding on Haddin and Johnson here. Thankfully they both have the ability and record to do it, but 1 more and things look really dire.


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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby scoob » Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:08 pm

Grahaml wrote:Batsmen will make mistakes early in their innings, been happening since the game began. No matter the deck or the attack, you're going to get out early at times. What kills you though is when blokes get a start and don't go on with it. Warner, Watson and now Smith all batted for a while and score just over 100 between them when 200 would be a pass for 3 international batsmen.

I've reserved judgement on Watson at 3, but now I've decided he's just not the man. He's a prodigious talent with bat in hand, but he seems to be able to attack or defend. There's no middle ground where he can make runs safely all day that a true #3 can do. Batted himself into a hole then got out. I'm with Ponting on this one, Clarke needs to be our #3.

A lot riding on Haddin and Johnson here. Thankfully they both have the ability and record to do it, but 1 more and things look really dire.


Too gutless to bat at 3.
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby Squids » Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:23 pm

Where is the rain?
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby Armytank » Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:24 pm

Surely we can blame Chuck for some of this pi$$ weak batting display.......FFS!
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby topsywaldron » Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:32 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
scoob wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:The Redbacks would put up a better effort than this!


Lets not get carried away!



waiting for the 'SACK BOOF' thread :roll:


At least the Australians are playing entertaining cricket. :D

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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby locky801 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:36 pm

6/197

Haddin 45

Johnson 35
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Postby RustyCage » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:53 pm

Haddin and Johnson showing what

a) our top order should have been able to do; and
b) what England will do to us tomorrow.
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby MightyEagles » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:07 pm

What happens if we get them out for less then us? proves that b is wrong.
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby RustyCage » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:17 pm

MightyEagles wrote:What happens if we get them out for less then us? proves that b is wrong.


True, but I can't see it happening, they won't throw their wicket away like our top order did
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby whufc » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:48 pm

8/265
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby locky801 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:00 pm

8/273, will take that after our position earlier in the 2nd session
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby whufc » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:04 pm

England on top.

Though with the expected weather forecasts you would think there will be some cloud cover around, potential moisture in the pitch therefore abit of assistance for the bowlers over the next couple of days.

Much like the tours of India and England we win enough sessions (for me today was 1 to Aus, 1 to Eng, 1 split) but when we have a poor session it is a very very very poor session.
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby Grahaml » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:16 pm

Always feel like batting into day 2 is a victory of sorts. Harris no mug and Haddin obviously playing well. 350 still a chance and that's a decent total. Not the domination we perhaps expect too readily but if we bowl well we are in this.

I really like the simplicity that Johnson bats with and it works so well. Thought Healy's criticism earlier about not being able to hit enough singles was rough for a #8 who is mostly a bowler.
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby Grahaml » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:17 pm

beeroclock wrote:
Grahaml wrote:
beeroclock wrote:Does anyone else think Tremletts action looks dodgy?


No. Not sure his arm is perfectly straight, but it doesn't appear to straighten at all.

Just looks like two actions.
Looks weird.


Sometimes a bent arm can look like that, probably just a symptom of massive biceps.
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby Jim05 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:18 pm

whufc wrote:AUS 5/100 Bailey gone

First ball he faced was the only one he looked comfy with.

No surprise there, averaged 18 at shield level last year, no good in the longer forms.
Bad when MJ looks far more accomplished at the crease
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Re: Ashes First Test Live Discussion

Postby Gozu » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:40 pm

Aus 8/273

Haddin 78*
Johnson 64
Warner 49

Broad 5/65
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