GONG or Wronggggggg

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GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby mal » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:16 pm

Here's a chance for everybody to havago at players / coaches/teams/selectors/umpires
State why you think a person/team is a GONG

Lets not wait for a player/team to fail or under perform then bag bag bag
State your case NOW
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby mal » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:18 pm

Alex Doolan
Has recently been compared to Mark Waugh in the press :roll:
From what I've seen , he has not got what it takes to be a successful long term Test cricketer
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:31 pm

mal wrote:Alex Doolan
Has recently been compared to Mark Waugh in the press :roll:
From what I've seen , he has not got what it takes to be a successful long term Test cricketer


but MAL, I made you look like Bradman in the nets :D
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby rod_rooster » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:03 am

I'd love to mention Shaun Marsh but he's already failed and under performed for over 10 years.
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby Squids » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:35 am

Josh Hazlewood
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby beeroclock » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:01 am

rod_rooster wrote:I'd love to mention Shaun Marsh but he's already failed and under performed for over 10 years.

He's not looking too bad ATM.
Could replace the current test No.3 no issue.
Warner comes back into 50/50 side and he bats 3 there as well.
Oooo rooo Watto.
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby MightyEagles » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:30 am

Umpire Simon Fry, he likes giving players out LBW when the ball is going to miss the stumps.
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby mal » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:15 am

Squids wrote:Josh Hazlewood


Will Josh struggle in Domestic cricket ?
If so, how will he go in
Sheffield Shield
One Dayers
20/20
He is young enough , and good enough , to be a very good bowler for NSW in all forms , from here on

Cant see him playing Test Cricket in his current form
Would need to improve a fair bit

Has the potential to play more ODI games
Has played 2 ODI games
1/41[7] v England 2010 as a 19 year old
0/6[2] in a rain interrupted game in England 2013
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby mal » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:32 am

beeroclock wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:I'd love to mention Shaun Marsh but he's already failed and under performed for over 10 years.

He's not looking too bad ATM.
Could replace the current test No.3 no issue.
Warner comes back into 50/50 side and he bats 3 there as well.
Oooo rooo Watto.


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Replacing Watson in the one day team would be like replacing Clarke in the Test team
If anyone is not satisfied with Watson's ODI career , then they are extremely hard to please

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Watson
As an allrounder he does his job , as the 5th bowler makes life easier for the front line bowlers
Averages about 40 + batting top 3 which is pass mark , but should have done better
I think he worries to much about his technique
Looks like he needs to work out that facing a bowling machine is different to facing International bowlers
Too valuable in the current Test set up to be replaced by Marsh , unless Marsh wakes up tomorrow and can average 30 with the ball in Test cricket

Shaun Marsh
Deserves to be in the ODI team
But he is too hit or miss at SS and Test level
I suppose if South Africa had no slips and gullys he might make some runs against them

And one more thing about Watson and Marsh
DONT play em in the same team , could be down to 9 fit players by the end of a Test match !
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:24 am

Steven Smith. Just not up to standard, and will be found out very soon.
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby whufc » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:31 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Steven Smith. Just not up to standard, and will be found out very soon.


Didnt you also say he would never hit a test ton hehe

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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby mal » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:20 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Steven Smith. Just not up to standard, and will be found out very soon.


If he faced his own bowling consistently he would be a Blonde Don

Sorry WHUFC
I'm with TSG on this one , I can see East Coast Smith being found out within 18 months

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3 tons @ a 36.40 average is better than I thought he was capable of
17 matches played , needs to start improving that average
I reckon he wont get past 30 tests
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby whufc » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:30 pm

Agree the 36 average needs to go up but I think as a general observation without any stats to back it up that test scores are now alot lower than we were seeing in the 2000,s.

Even the clear number one team in the world has a top 6 bat only averaging 32

An average of 40 these days seems to be a good average where only the real elite blokes tend to average around the 45-50 mark

I also think alot of our batting order will be under the pump big time in South Africa (Warner, Watson, Smith, Haddin) but in saying that alot of people at the start of this ashes series would have had the English attack as the best in the world over the Saffies especially because they had a world class spinner
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby Squids » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:47 pm

At 5 Steve Smith averages 52.06 with 3 tons from 11 matches
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby helicopterking » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:53 pm

mal wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Steven Smith. Just not up to standard, and will be found out very soon.


If he faced his own bowling consistently he would be a Blonde Don

Sorry WHUFC
I'm with TSG on this one , I can see East Coast Smith being found out within 18 months

Will be closer to Australian Skipper in 18 months.
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby mal » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:53 pm

Whats going to happen if Clarke gets injured in South Africa ?
Imagine this batting line up
ROGERS
WARNER
WATSON
S MARSH
DOOLAN
SMITH

The only player that looks like being in the team by 2016 is David Warner
He might make more 100's than the rest of the others combined from here on
If David Warner is the best batsman after Clarke, then the Australian bowlers are going to have be exceptional
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby Grahaml » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:13 pm

I understand the desire to replace Watson with someone better, but until we have someone who can average 45+ to bring in he should hold his spot. No point bringing in a guy to make the same runs who can't bowl.

I like the way Smith has made important runs. Too many batsmen make a career of batting 5 or 6 and taking toll of some worn out bowlers but fail when the side is 4/FA. His problem so far has been it's either big or nothing. Needs to find a way to get to 20 more often.
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:02 pm

Grahaml wrote:I understand the desire to replace Watson with someone better, but until we have someone who can average 45+ to bring in he should hold his spot. No point bringing in a guy to make the same runs who can't bowl.

I like the way Smith has made important runs. Too many batsmen make a career of batting 5 or 6 and taking toll of some worn out bowlers but fail when the side is 4/FA. His problem so far has been it's either big or nothing. Needs to find a way to get to 20 more often.


So people on here can criticize him like Watto for not going on with it?
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:34 pm

whufc wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Steven Smith. Just not up to standard, and will be found out very soon.


Didnt you also say he would never hit a test ton hehe

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Don't know. Don't rate him.

Wasn't that the point of the thread.
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Re: GONG or Wronggggggg

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:36 pm

Matty Wade - I tipped him a few years ago to play for Australia

he has made a test ton and once Haddin retires he will be back in the test team

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