Essendon

[bennymacca]

Word out of Melbourne is that James Hird is no longer living in the family home. Allegedly on his "study trip" to France last year, he's met up with a female in her early twenties and she is now pregnant.
Shed any light on this Jim?

The plot thickens....

Hird would say he did not know what he was injecting her with

you win the forums today sir

[Jim05]

Word out of Melbourne is that James Hird is no longer living in the family home. Allegedly on his "study trip" to France last year, he's met up with a female in her early twenties and she is now pregnant.
Shed any light on this Jim?

Old rumour that has been doing the rounds for about 4 months.
He definately has been spending a lot of time in France so perhaps it's true

[Corona Man]

^ mind you, IF you had the choice of a Melbourne winter, or a Parisian Summer.... which would you take?

[MW]

^ mind you, IF you had the choice of a Melbourne winter, or a Parisian Summer.... which would you take?

You don't really need the seasons in there to compare the two mate

[Lightning McQueen]

Word out of Melbourne is that James Hird is no longer living in the family home. Allegedly on his "study trip" to France last year, he's met up with a female in her early twenties and she is now pregnant.
Shed any light on this Jim?

Old rumour that has been doing the rounds for about 4 months.
He definately has been spending a lot of time in France so perhaps it's true

Nice.

[bennymacca]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYt0WbDjJ4E

[Rik E Boy]

^ mind you, IF you had the choice of a Melbourne winter, or a Parisian Summer.... which would you take?

Or a younger chick or Tanya for that matter....

[Bombers4EVA]

I just don't understand why some of the players are interested or looking into the possibility of using the grievance clause to leave Essendon. Especially when some of the players still have years in their contracts. Now I understand that the banned players would be feeling angry still at the club for what has happened. But as far as I know, they weren't held at gun point to take the injections and they could've not signed the waivers like some other players did. And they would be playing today. They aren't wholly responsible but they could've said no. I would've thought that Hooker, Hurley and even Heppell would be loyal and stick around. But with the AFL clubs circling around them throwing big $$$ at them. Their loyalty now could be questioned.

[Corona Man]

Heppell would slide nicely into our mid-field in 2017. Regardless of how this season pans out, I would expect that the Hawks will move 1 or 2 on again. It sucks to be an Essendon fan (my son is one) right now, and yes, I think the sharks are circling some of your banned players.

[heater31]

I just don't understand why some of the players are interested or looking into the possibility of using the grievance clause to leave Essendon. Especially when some of the players still have years in their contracts. Now I understand that the banned players would be feeling angry still at the club for what has happened. But as far as I know, they weren't held at gun point to take the injections and they could've not signed the waivers like some other players did. And they would be playing today. They aren't wholly responsible but they could've said no. I would've thought that Hooker, Hurley and even Heppell would be loyal and stick around. But with the AFL clubs circling around them throwing big $$$ at them. Their loyalty now could be questioned.

It depends what the players believe they were told. Dank has admitted to supplying banned a substance to Nathan Bock at the Gold Coast. Dank maintains nothing was illegal at Essendon....yeah right the prick can't be trusted.

[bennymacca]

I just don't understand why some of the players are interested or looking into the possibility of using the grievance clause to leave Essendon. Especially when some of the players still have years in their contracts. Now I understand that the banned players would be feeling angry still at the club for what has happened. But as far as I know, they weren't held at gun point to take the injections and they could've not signed the waivers like some other players did. And they would be playing today. They aren't wholly responsible but they could've said no. I would've thought that Hooker, Hurley and even Heppell would be loyal and stick around. But with the AFL clubs circling around them throwing big $$$ at them. Their loyalty now could be questioned.

If you were told to take an ice bath and said no, or do some extra running and said no, do you think you would be looked on favourably?

Players want to leave because they were betrayed by the club

[Bombers4EVA]

All I am saying about the players looking at other opportunities. Is, they didn't have to take the injections, no matter what they were told. If they didn't want to, they didn't have to. For example Zaka declined the injections and look what he is doing today. The players have to accept that they are responsible in the supplement saga to a certain degree. And to now come and take advantage of the grievance rule, what a load of crap.

[Bombers4EVA]

I just don't understand why some of the players are interested or looking into the possibility of using the grievance clause to leave Essendon. Especially when some of the players still have years in their contracts. Now I understand that the banned players would be feeling angry still at the club for what has happened. But as far as I know, they weren't held at gun point to take the injections and they could've not signed the waivers like some other players did. And they would be playing today. They aren't wholly responsible but they could've said no. I would've thought that Hooker, Hurley and even Heppell would be loyal and stick around. But with the AFL clubs circling around them throwing big $$$ at them. Their loyalty now could be questioned.

If you were told to take an ice bath and said no, or do some extra running and said no, do you think you would be looked on favourably?

Players want to leave because they were betrayed by the club

What a load of crap. Look at Zakarakis. He said no and look what he does with his time on the weekends. He's playing footy. Unlike the rest of the 12.

[daysofourlives]

Didnt Zaka say no because he doesnt like needles or was that someone else? Would be very thankful for that little phobia right about now

[Grahaml]

The players are absolutely responsible and the fact they seem to be unable to admit as much is my #1 gripe. However, they were also badly let down by their employer who not only allowed but encouraged unsafe and ultimately illegal activities to take place. Totally understandable they would want to leave. Not just because the trust might be damaged beyond repair but because the entire club's situation is totally different to a couple of years ago. Back then the club thought finals and premierships were a possibility. Now they're in total rebuild mode. The length and remuneration of the contracts should be looked at again even for those able to look past the betrayal and rather disgusting behaviour by their club.

[stan]

I just don't understand why some of the players are interested or looking into the possibility of using the grievance clause to leave Essendon. Especially when some of the players still have years in their contracts. Now I understand that the banned players would be feeling angry still at the club for what has happened. But as far as I know, they weren't held at gun point to take the injections and they could've not signed the waivers like some other players did. And they would be playing today. They aren't wholly responsible but they could've said no. I would've thought that Hooker, Hurley and even Heppell would be loyal and stick around. But with the AFL clubs circling around them throwing big $$$ at them. Their loyalty now could be questioned.

I can understand it. The players are pissed off at the club.

[stan]

I just don't understand why some of the players are interested or looking into the possibility of using the grievance clause to leave Essendon. Especially when some of the players still have years in their contracts. Now I understand that the banned players would be feeling angry still at the club for what has happened. But as far as I know, they weren't held at gun point to take the injections and they could've not signed the waivers like some other players did. And they would be playing today. They aren't wholly responsible but they could've said no. I would've thought that Hooker, Hurley and even Heppell would be loyal and stick around. But with the AFL clubs circling around them throwing big $$$ at them. Their loyalty now could be questioned.

If you were told to take an ice bath and said no, or do some extra running and said no, do you think you would be looked on favourably?

Players want to leave because they were betrayed by the club

What a load of crap. Look at Zakarakis. He said no and look what he does with his time on the weekends. He's playing footy. Unlike the rest of the 12.

Who are you James Hird?

Although your keen to talk about the players taking some responsibility, you seem keen to push it all to the players. Thats already been done re: wada.

#standbyhird?

[Bombers4EVA]

I just don't understand why some of the players are interested or looking into the possibility of using the grievance clause to leave Essendon. Especially when some of the players still have years in their contracts. Now I understand that the banned players would be feeling angry still at the club for what has happened. But as far as I know, they weren't held at gun point to take the injections and they could've not signed the waivers like some other players did. And they would be playing today. They aren't wholly responsible but they could've said no. I would've thought that Hooker, Hurley and even Heppell would be loyal and stick around. But with the AFL clubs circling around them throwing big $$$ at them. Their loyalty now could be questioned.

I can understand it. The players are pissed off at the club.

And I agree with you there. But they weren't held at gun point to take the injections. They still could of said no.

[stan]

I just don't understand why some of the players are interested or looking into the possibility of using the grievance clause to leave Essendon. Especially when some of the players still have years in their contracts. Now I understand that the banned players would be feeling angry still at the club for what has happened. But as far as I know, they weren't held at gun point to take the injections and they could've not signed the waivers like some other players did. And they would be playing today. They aren't wholly responsible but they could've said no. I would've thought that Hooker, Hurley and even Heppell would be loyal and stick around. But with the AFL clubs circling around them throwing big $$$ at them. Their loyalty now could be questioned.

I can understand it. The players are pissed off at the club.

And I agree with you there. But they weren't held at gun point to take the injections. They still could of said no.

They could also of been told what they were been given as well.

[Bombers4EVA]

I just don't understand why some of the players are interested or looking into the possibility of using the grievance clause to leave Essendon. Especially when some of the players still have years in their contracts. Now I understand that the banned players would be feeling angry still at the club for what has happened. But as far as I know, they weren't held at gun point to take the injections and they could've not signed the waivers like some other players did. And they would be playing today. They aren't wholly responsible but they could've said no. I would've thought that Hooker, Hurley and even Heppell would be loyal and stick around. But with the AFL clubs circling around them throwing big $$$ at them. Their loyalty now could be questioned.

If you were told to take an ice bath and said no, or do some extra running and said no, do you think you would be looked on favourably?

Players want to leave because they were betrayed by the club

What a load of crap. Look at Zakarakis. He said no and look what he does with his time on the weekends. He's playing footy. Unlike the rest of the 12.

Who are you James Hird?

Although your keen to talk about the players taking some responsibility, you seem keen to push it all to the players. Thats already been done re: wada.

#standbyhird?

I am a vivid Essendon supporter. Born and bleed black and red. Always will. All I am saying is that the players agreed to the injections. Got banned for doing so. Are pi$$ed at EFC and are now considering using the "AFL get out of club card" and may look at accepting offers from other clubs. Are they totally at fault? No. Are they totally innocent? No.