Essendon

[Grahaml]

And you'd be wrong to think that too. Depression isn't something you can look at with the rationale of a normal person and understand. People with depression aren't being selfish, they're being selfless. It's the thought people would genuinely be better off without you mixed with the belief that there's no way forward.

This is the problem with mental illness. So many people so keen to rationalise it who can't or won't bother to take the time to understand the whole picture.

[Booney]

And you'd be wrong to think that too. Depression isn't something you can look at with the rationale of a normal person and understand. People with depression aren't being selfish, they're being selfless. It's the thought people would genuinely be better off without you mixed with the belief that there's no way forward.

This is the problem with mental illness. So many people so keen to rationalise it who can't or won't bother to take the time to understand the whole picture.

Telling someone fighting an illness that they're "being selfish" would, in many cases, give further reason to low self worth issues. Selfish it is not.

[whufc]

Trying telling that to the fatherless kids

[whufc]

And you'd be wrong to think that too. Depression isn't something you can look at with the rationale of a normal person and understand. People with depression aren't being selfish, they're being selfless. It's the thought people would genuinely be better off without you mixed with the belief that there's no way forward.

This is the problem with mental illness. So many people so keen to rationalise it who can't or won't bother to take the time to understand the whole picture.

lol

I love how you can make a judgement on someone you have never met and presume they don't understand

FYI in the last 3 years I have been through a divorce, lost the house I built, only limited access to my children, had a very close mate pass away and have changed jobs, there are definitely people that have had it worse than me for sure but I'm not exactly looking down from my million dollar house with my chopper and my perfect 4.2 family

[Wedgie]

And you'd be wrong to think that too. Depression isn't something you can look at with the rationale of a normal person and understand. People with depression aren't being selfish, they're being selfless. It's the thought people would genuinely be better off without you mixed with the belief that there's no way forward.

This is the problem with mental illness. So many people so keen to rationalise it who can't or won't bother to take the time to understand the whole picture.

lol

I love how you can make a judgement on someone you have never met and presume they don't understand

FYI in the last 3 years I have been through a divorce, lost the house I built, only limited access to my children, had a very close mate pass away and have changed jobs, there are definitely people that have had it worse than me for sure but I'm not exactly looking down from my million dollar house with my chopper and my perfect 4.2 family

Having hardships in life is not comparabele to depression, it'd be like you saying you understand what its like to have cancer because youve spent time in the sun.

[valleys07]

And you'd be wrong to think that too. Depression isn't something you can look at with the rationale of a normal person and understand. People with depression aren't being selfish, they're being selfless. It's the thought people would genuinely be better off without you mixed with the belief that there's no way forward.

This is the problem with mental illness. So many people so keen to rationalise it who can't or won't bother to take the time to understand the whole picture.

lol

I love how you can make a judgement on someone you have never met and presume they don't understand

FYI in the last 3 years I have been through a divorce, lost the house I built, only limited access to my children, had a very close mate pass away and have changed jobs, there are definitely people that have had it worse than me for sure but I'm not exactly looking down from my million dollar house with my chopper and my perfect 4.2 family

Having hardships in life is not comparabele to depression, it'd be like you saying you understand what its like to have cancer because youve spent time in the sun.

Correct, but the above can be the catalyst to someone becoming depressed. Maybe that is what whufc is alluding to?

[whufc]

And you'd be wrong to think that too. Depression isn't something you can look at with the rationale of a normal person and understand. People with depression aren't being selfish, they're being selfless. It's the thought people would genuinely be better off without you mixed with the belief that there's no way forward.

This is the problem with mental illness. So many people so keen to rationalise it who can't or won't bother to take the time to understand the whole picture.

lol

I love how you can make a judgement on someone you have never met and presume they don't understand

FYI in the last 3 years I have been through a divorce, lost the house I built, only limited access to my children, had a very close mate pass away and have changed jobs, there are definitely people that have had it worse than me for sure but I'm not exactly looking down from my million dollar house with my chopper and my perfect 4.2 family

Having hardships in life is not comparabele to depression, it'd be like you saying you understand what its like to have cancer because youve spent time in the sun.

considering that time in life put me in a bad way which ended with me being hospitalised its fair to say there is a slight understanding or my own personal experience to make my own judgement s off.

I have also been diagnosed as suffering from bi polar since the age of 19, while its not identical to 'depression' it does give me a tiny bit of understanding and i have spent alot of time with people with severe depression at many sessions.

[Wedgie]

And you'd be wrong to think that too. Depression isn't something you can look at with the rationale of a normal person and understand. People with depression aren't being selfish, they're being selfless. It's the thought people would genuinely be better off without you mixed with the belief that there's no way forward.

This is the problem with mental illness. So many people so keen to rationalise it who can't or won't bother to take the time to understand the whole picture.

lol

I love how you can make a judgement on someone you have never met and presume they don't understand

FYI in the last 3 years I have been through a divorce, lost the house I built, only limited access to my children, had a very close mate pass away and have changed jobs, there are definitely people that have had it worse than me for sure but I'm not exactly looking down from my million dollar house with my chopper and my perfect 4.2 family

Having hardships in life is not comparabele to depression, it'd be like you saying you understand what its like to have cancer because youve spent time in the sun.

considering that time in life put me in a bad way which ended with me being hospitalised its fair to say there is a slight understanding or my own personal experience to make my own judgement s off.

I have also been diagnosed as suffering from bi polar since the age of 19, while its not identical to 'depression' it does give me a tiny bit of understanding and i have spent alot of time with people with severe depression at many sessions.

And yet you still LOL at the thought people are keen to rationalise it? Hardly a laughing out loud subject I would have thought.

[whufc]

I was lol at his last line

'So many people so keen to rationalise it who cant or wont bother to take the time to understand the whole picture'

Considering i have never met Graham, we have never spoken a word in our life, he wouldn't know a single thing about me its a bit rich for him to state i wouldn't bother to take the time to understand the whole picture.

Interestingly in a lot of the sessions i had while i was unwell we focused on the impact my thoughts would have on my kids and what future i saw for them.

In my recovery being there for my kids and not putting them through the same 'hell' i was going through was a major factor in my ability to get through the situation.

If i made the decision to do something tragic all because i wasn't going to get to see my kids everyday and i had to go back to living in housing trust property made no sense in the end. So i take my own life because i couldn't see them when i wanted yet by doing so they would never get to see me. Especially considering i had played a role in why the marriage had broken down and the situation i was in.

Anyway i will leave this topic alone now as im sure other people have there own stories, experiences etc but i will say places like SAFooty are great for mental state as its a brilliant place to open the mind, share opinions and even take your mind off other topics etc

[amber_fluid]

I was lol at his last line

'So many people so keen to rationalise it who cant or wont bother to take the time to understand the whole picture'

Considering i have never met Graham, we have never spoken a word in our life, he wouldn't know a single thing about me its a bit rich for him to state i wouldn't bother to take the time to understand the whole picture.

Interestingly in a lot of the sessions i had while i was unwell we focused on the impact my thoughts would have on my kids and what future i saw for them.

In my recovery being there for my kids and not putting them through the same 'hell' i was going through was a major factor in my ability to get through the situation.

If i made the decision to do something tragic all because i wasn't going to get to see my kids everyday and i had to go back to living in housing trust property made no sense in the end. She o i take my own life because i couldn't see them when i wanted yet by doing so they would never get to see me. Especially considering i had played a role in why the marriage had broken down and the situation i was in.

Anyway i will leave this topic alone now as im sure other people have there own stories, experiences etc but i will say places like SAFooty are great for mental state as its a brilliant place to open the mind, share opinions and even take your mind off other topics etc

Good post!
Whilst most of us have never met we still feel we know a little bit about each other and we can share past experiences.

[amber_fluid]

Has there been any recent news of how Hird is going?

[Jim05]

Has there been any recent news of how Hird is going?

Doing aswell as he can be, getting the help he needs but don't think he will be going home anytime soon

[Lightning McQueen]

I was lol at his last line

'So many people so keen to rationalise it who cant or wont bother to take the time to understand the whole picture'

Considering i have never met Graham, we have never spoken a word in our life, he wouldn't know a single thing about me its a bit rich for him to state i wouldn't bother to take the time to understand the whole picture.

Interestingly in a lot of the sessions i had while i was unwell we focused on the impact my thoughts would have on my kids and what future i saw for them.

In my recovery being there for my kids and not putting them through the same 'hell' i was going through was a major factor in my ability to get through the situation.

If i made the decision to do something tragic all because i wasn't going to get to see my kids everyday and i had to go back to living in housing trust property made no sense in the end. She o i take my own life because i couldn't see them when i wanted yet by doing so they would never get to see me. Especially considering i had played a role in why the marriage had broken down and the situation i was in.

Anyway i will leave this topic alone now as im sure other people have there own stories, experiences etc but i will say places like SAFooty are great for mental state as its a brilliant place to open the mind, share opinions and even take your mind off other topics etc

Good post!
Whilst most of us have never met we still feel we know a little bit about each other and we can share past experiences.

Exactly, the forum can be an escape for some us going thorugh hell, I too had a rough trot over a short period of time with no one to turn to, this place gave me an out and a chance to chat without being constantly asked "are you alright?".

I too had a 15 year marriage breakdown, discovered that I owed over $10K without any knowledge of it, gave up everything I had in my house, had my father pass away then my step son, although depression is never a friend of anyone's it's generally a distant cousin that pops in from time to time to test us out, I was certainly tested a couple of times when I thought it was all too hard to put behind me as I chose to move far enough away form my circle of friends to begin a new life.

Each case is different and no one truly walks in another persons shoes.

[whufc]

4 Essendon players had their cars stolen over the weekend, very odd

Early reports suggests it may have been a job by the Apex gang

[Jim05]

4 Essendon players had their cars stolen over the weekend, very odd

Early reports suggests it may have been a job by the Apex gang

Quite possibly Apex gang, they are bad in that area. Pretty bad part of Melbourne now. Players were unharmed though

[Booney]

4 Essendon players had their cars stolen over the weekend, very odd

Early reports suggests it may have been a job by the Apex gang

Quite possibly Apex gang, they are bad in that area. Pretty bad part of Melbourne now. Players were unharmed though

Something different for them.

[Jim05]

4 Essendon players had their cars stolen over the weekend, very odd

Early reports suggests it may have been a job by the Apex gang

Quite possibly Apex gang, they are bad in that area. Pretty bad part of Melbourne now. Players were unharmed though

Something different for them.

The 4 players weren't druggies[emoji3]
Maybe Impey stole their cars

[PatowalongaPirate]

Dyson Heppell has been named Essendon's Captain with Hooker and Zach Merrett as his deputies.

[Lightning McQueen]

Dyson Heppell has been named Essendon's Captain with Hooker and Zach Merrett as his deputies.

Great appointments.

Heppell's paying $51 for the 2017 Brownlow.

[MW]

Hearing Aaron Francis has done some sort of knee today