The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

[Booney]

Once again it comes down to what you think defines a club.

The bottom line is,I believe that it's up to the people who support the club that define what a club is.

Correspondents in this thread who post over and over and over their thoughts on the Port Adelaide Football Club are entitled to an opinion, just like we are allowed to have an opinion on theirs. Ultimately what they choose to think of their club, our club or other clubs pretty much matters **** all.

If it helps inflate their ego or own feeling of self importance, then that's a good thing for them.

Booney I agree with you ya toothless wharfie scum.

Thanks you latte sipping handbagger...

[stan]

PURE SANFL PREMIERSHIPS
Using previous winners, and the 2 new clubs of 2014

36 PORT ADELAIDE
29 NORWOOD
13 NORTH
13 STURT
11 SOUTH
9 CENTRAL
8 WEST
4 WEST TORRENS
4 GLENELG
3 WOODVILLE WEST TORRENS
1 ADELAIDE
0 ADELAIDE RESERVES
0 PORT RESERVES

My Question
If Port Reserves win a flag/flags from here on
Should it be added to the 36 Port Adelaide have won
Or should they begin again ?

See that gets complicated. I'll just refer to Port as a bunch of Wharfie ferals and be happy.

To be honest believe what you want. Do what you like.

[mighty_tiger_79]

this thread has picked up steam now its into the nervous 90s

[Rising Power]

PURE SANFL PREMIERSHIPS
Using previous winners, and the 2 new clubs of 2014

36 PORT ADELAIDE
29 NORWOOD
13 NORTH
13 STURT
11 SOUTH
9 CENTRAL
8 WEST
4 WEST TORRENS
4 GLENELG
3 WOODVILLE WEST TORRENS
1 ADELAIDE
0 ADELAIDE RESERVES
0 PORT RESERVES

My Question
If Port Reserves win a flag/flags from here on
Should it be added to the 36 Port Adelaide have won
Or should they begin again ?

Well you've combined SANFL premierships from both the Port Adelaide Football Club (34) AND the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club (2), so going on that logic Port Adelaide's next SANFL premiership would be number 37

[wild dog]

Once again it comes down to what you think defines a club.

The bottom line is,I believe that it's up to the people who support the club that define what a club is.

Correspondents in this thread who post over and over and over their thoughts on the Port Adelaide Football Club are entitled to an opinion, just like we are allowed to have an opinion on theirs. Ultimately what they choose to think of their club, our club or other clubs pretty much matters **** all.

If it helps inflate their ego or own feeling of self importance, then that's a good thing for them.

Look, I will start this off by stating I respect you and others like you who are trying to make it feel the same and keep the historical connection by putting your, and I'm sure your families energy and money into it. You believe it to be the case, its just that I don't believe its the same and a large group of your opponents don't think that.

I cant argue that the SANFL part of Port Power are allowed to define your beliefs and hold to that. It does so with little regard to the legitimacy of the argument of your opponents within the same competition, the competition that enables you to put those beliefs in action. Once again that's your right.

However, its been demonstrated in other posts that legally your not the same - yes it is just paper but unless you or anyone else can disprove that, the point stands. Your SANFL club works under totally different conditions to its previous operations and your opponents. In no shape or form is it separate to Port Power. None. Its clearly stated that its not, and your clubs stated aim is to win the AFL premiership, a separate competition to the SANFL. So the Port Power reserves pretending to be the SANFL grand old Port Adelaide of old may make good theatre, but there are a substantial amount of people who see through it and think its a farce, corporate manipulation and false. Time will tell if the mainstream buy it or even care. Inflating egos, good old fashioned club rivalry, I wish it was that simple.

Anyway whether you realise it or not, your bottom line completely describes what you are doing. Keep it up, and good luck in winning your first premiership as a reserves team to Port Power.

[Pseudo]

The bottom line is,I believe that it's up to the people who support the club that define what a club is.

... which neatly confines the argument to the domain of religion. May the force be with you!

[bennymacca]

The bottom line is,I believe that it's up to the people who support the club that define what a club is.

... which neatly confines the argument to the domain of religion. May the force be with you!

We are pretty close to nazi territory here

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

[Booney]

The bottom line is,I believe that it's up to the people who support the club that define what a club is.

... which neatly confines the argument to the domain of religion. May the force be with you!

We are pretty close to nazi territory here

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Shut up, nazi. You probably think you're the next Hitler!

[LPH]

To quote the 'Late & Great' Rick Mayal:

"Facist Bastards"...

[Rising Power]

Once again it comes down to what you think defines a club.

The bottom line is,I believe that it's up to the people who support the club that define what a club is.

Correspondents in this thread who post over and over and over their thoughts on the Port Adelaide Football Club are entitled to an opinion, just like we are allowed to have an opinion on theirs. Ultimately what they choose to think of their club, our club or other clubs pretty much matters **** all.

If it helps inflate their ego or own feeling of self importance, then that's a good thing for them.

Look, I will start this off by stating I respect you and others like you who are trying to make it feel the same and keep the historical connection by putting your, and I'm sure your families energy and money into it. You believe it to be the case, its just that I don't believe its the same and a large group of your opponents don't think that.

I cant argue that the SANFL part of Port Power are allowed to define your beliefs and hold to that. It does so with little regard to the legitimacy of the argument of your opponents within the same competition, the competition that enables you to put those beliefs in action. Once again that's your right.

However, its been demonstrated in other posts that legally your not the same - yes it is just paper but unless you or anyone else can disprove that, the point stands. Your SANFL club works under totally different conditions to its previous operations and your opponents. In no shape or form is it separate to Port Power. None. Its clearly stated that its not, and your clubs stated aim is to win the AFL premiership, a separate competition to the SANFL. So the Port Power reserves pretending to be the SANFL grand old Port Adelaide of old may make good theatre, but there are a substantial amount of people who see through it and think its a farce, corporate manipulation and false. Time will tell if the mainstream buy it or even care. Inflating egos, good old fashioned club rivalry, I wish it was that simple.

Anyway whether you realise it or not, your bottom line completely describes what you are doing. Keep it up, and good luck in winning your first premiership as a reserves team to Port Power.

See this 'pretending' is what I don't get. How are they pretending? Everyone knows they're the Power's reserve side and the vast majority of Port supporters are happy with this being the case. There's nobody that I know of who's just thinking "wow, what a coincidence that all the Power players are aligned to the Magpies". Would you prefer that the club drops the magpies logo from all it's branding and wear the V in SANFL games? The black and white jumper and all before it, yes even the pink ones to the homophobes out there, are part of Port Adelaide's history so there is should be no issue with them wearing it in the SANFL. If they were to change to the V then fine, but it doesn't change the fact that the next SANFL flag is number 37 for the club. The club isn't 'pretending' anything, not trying to trick the old Magpies/anti-Power people out there into believing the SANFL team is the same as its been for 100+ years, it's obvious that the SANFL team runs under a new structure, different rules to the other 9 teams, etc etc etc, you'd have to be stupid to think otherwise. It is what it is, Port Adelaide Football Club in the AFL and SANFL and that's it. /rant

[Booney]

Good post.

[RB]

I wonder what kickinit's thoughts are on this matter.

[Dogwatcher]

What have pink guernseys got to do with homophobia?

[CedeNullis]

I wonder what kickinit's thoughts are on this matter.

Let sleeping giants lie.

[LPH]

Yes, no doubt Port Adelaide people will be very happy with the whole scenario.
Why wouldn't they be?
They haven't lost anything - expect the $$$ that were used to keep the Magpies afloat this Century.
I am sure they are extremely happy - zero in 2013 to hero in 2014

[amber_fluid]

Once again it comes down to what you think defines a club.

The bottom line is,I believe that it's up to the people who support the club that define what a club is.

Correspondents in this thread who post over and over and over their thoughts on the Port Adelaide Football Club are entitled to an opinion, just like we are allowed to have an opinion on theirs. Ultimately what they choose to think of their club, our club or other clubs pretty much matters **** all.

If it helps inflate their ego or own feeling of self importance, then that's a good thing for them.

Look, I will start this off by stating I respect you and others like you who are trying to make it feel the same and keep the historical connection by putting your, and I'm sure your families energy and money into it. You believe it to be the case, its just that I don't believe its the same and a large group of your opponents don't think that.

I cant argue that the SANFL part of Port Power are allowed to define your beliefs and hold to that. It does so with little regard to the legitimacy of the argument of your opponents within the same competition, the competition that enables you to put those beliefs in action. Once again that's your right.

However, its been demonstrated in other posts that legally your not the same - yes it is just paper but unless you or anyone else can disprove that, the point stands. Your SANFL club works under totally different conditions to its previous operations and your opponents. In no shape or form is it separate to Port Power. None. Its clearly stated that its not, and your clubs stated aim is to win the AFL premiership, a separate competition to the SANFL. So the Port Power reserves pretending to be the SANFL grand old Port Adelaide of old may make good theatre, but there are a substantial amount of people who see through it and think its a farce, corporate manipulation and false. Time will tell if the mainstream buy it or even care. Inflating egos, good old fashioned club rivalry, I wish it was that simple.

Anyway whether you realise it or not, your bottom line completely describes what you are doing. Keep it up, and good luck in winning your first premiership as a reserves team to Port Power.

See this 'pretending' is what I don't get. How are they pretending? Everyone knows they're the Power's reserve side and the vast majority of Port supporters are happy with this being the case. There's nobody that I know of who's just thinking "wow, what a coincidence that all the Power players are aligned to the Magpies". Would you prefer that the club drops the magpies logo from all it's branding and wear the V in SANFL games? The black and white jumper and all before it, yes even the pink ones to the homophobes out there, are part of Port Adelaide's history so there is should be no issue with them wearing it in the SANFL. If they were to change to the V then fine, but it doesn't change the fact that the next SANFL flag is number 37 for the club. The club isn't 'pretending' anything, not trying to trick the old Magpies/anti-Power people out there into believing the SANFL team is the same as its been for 100+ years, it's obvious that the SANFL team runs under a new structure, different rules to the other 9 teams, etc etc etc, you'd have to be stupid to think otherwise. It is what it is, Port Adelaide Football Club in the AFL and SANFL and that's it. /rant

Some people just don't get it.
Not all Port Magpies supporters follow the Power.........infact I can't stand Port Power to be honest!!
And I may be in the minority but I would have preferred the Magpies finished up last year than to be parading around as the power reserves team wearing the magpies guernsey this year.

[mal]

Amber Fluid
Wouldnt it be nice
IF we had a Port Adelaide stand alone team in the SANFL with no interchange with Port Power players
Then they could be a true SANFL team , like the 8 others that are left

Perhaps we could then lock this thread

[amber_fluid]

Amber Fluid
Wouldnt it be nice
IF we had a Port Adelaide stand alone team in the SANFL with no interchange with Port Power players
Then they could be a true SANFL team , like the 8 others that are left

Perhaps we could then lock this thread

I don't know how people can watch a Port Magpies team without a kid from Rosewater, Largs Bay, Ethelton or from the West Coast Eyre Peninsula in it.
For someone who was lucky enough to see Tim Evans, Scott Hodges, Mark Tylor etc play at full forward to now see a scruffy haired git from the Power via Victoria? who wouldn't hold a candle to the 3 mentioned isn't on for me............Butcher isn't fit enough to wipe their arse!!!

[LPH]

To be fair... Tim Evans came from Geelong

[amber_fluid]

To be fair... Tim Evans came from Geelong

Yeah but he adapted to the Port Magpies lifestyle pretty quickly!!