by shoe boy » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:51 am
by afc9798 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:38 am
shoe boy wrote:Is there problems within the playing group re coach or just a committee issue?
by Mister Footy » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:30 pm
afc9798 wrote:shoe boy wrote:Is there problems within the playing group re coach or just a committee issue?
As with most clubs, after 4-5 years the playing group and the club will consider options. Dent has done a very good job for the club, producing a premiership and if not for a finals campaign ruined by injury last year, could have made the big dance again. Team is producing its best form now after being ordinary in the first half of the year, so any suggestion that they are not playing as a team and playing for the coach, seem to be off the money.
I have no idea what the club will do in regards to senior coaching roles, but I'm sure all options would be considered and I don't think that would be a surprise to Dent either. I think it's a healthy thing to look at the options. For all I know Dent may not want to coach next year...
by Axle Rose » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:52 am
by Mister Footy » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:47 pm
by Vinney » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:34 am
by shoe boy » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:47 am
Vinney wrote:Mister Footy and AFC, you seem to have a lot to say about the club and especially regarding the coaching position at the Valley. Are you involved in the club in any formal way? I would hope not!
I can tell it’s the clubs decision to advertise and I know Dent was keen to be reappointed before the season was finished. Four, five or six years is not too long depending on results and the improvement of players. This year Dents focus was on promoting juniors to step up a grade, if they were up to it. We have seen a large number of kids doing this year and we have had around 10 under 18’s play B grade and 4 play A grade. There would have been more if the others wanted to step up. A large number of players are having their best year for the club, so I would think the instructions Dent is giving has been followed out. The players understand and are happy.
Some stats for you to consider regarding Dents record;
No other club has won more A grade games than the Valleys in Dents time
No other club has won more A grade finals, Brighton have won the same number
No other club has scored more points for in A grade
No other club has conceded more points in A grade
I know a few other clubs that would like to have that record.
We all know 2013 turned out to be a big disappointment for the club, but I am not sure where you are coming from with the comment “Some risky selections on his mates last year”, please explain.
by afc9798 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:07 pm
Vinney wrote:Mister Footy and AFC, you seem to have a lot to say about the club and especially regarding the coaching position at the Valley. Are you involved in the club in any formal way? I would hope not!
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by Mister Footy » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:33 pm
by Look Good In Leather » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:36 pm
Vinney wrote:No other club has conceded more points in A grade
by Vinney » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:01 pm
Look Good In Leather wrote:Vinney wrote:No other club has conceded more points in A grade
14 clubs have.
by Look Good In Leather » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:10 pm
Vinney wrote:Look Good In Leather wrote:Vinney wrote:No other club has conceded more points in A grade
14 clubs have.
Touche. Conceded fewer points.
Hindsight is a wonderful. But change, just for change sake, is also fraught with danger.
As for his campaign manager, maybe. But that is his record. Facts are facts.
I know this is a forum, and opinions are put forward, whether they are popular or not. But I do say this about Dent.
What else can he do?
Promotes the club. Tick.
Promoted juniors this year. Tick.
Organized some excellent speakers for the football nights. Tick.
Puts money back into the club. Tick.
Talks to lots of people every night he is there. And lets face it, we all have an opinion on what he could/should do during a game.
I believe and have seen, Denty is a great club person, and HVFC is lucky to have such a person involved in our club.
by Zelezny Chucks » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:39 am
Vinney wrote:Look Good In Leather wrote:Vinney wrote:No other club has conceded more points in A grade
14 clubs have.
Touche. Conceded fewer points.
Hindsight is a wonderful. But change, just for change sake, is also fraught with danger.
As for his campaign manager, maybe. But that is his record. Facts are facts.
I know this is a forum, and opinions are put forward, whether they are popular or not. But I do say this about Dent.
What else can he do?
Promotes the club. Tick.
Promoted juniors this year. Tick.
Organized some excellent speakers for the football nights. Tick.
Puts money back into the club. Tick.
Talks to lots of people every night he is there. And lets face it, we all have an opinion on what he could/should do during a game.
I believe and have seen, Denty is a great club person, and HVFC is lucky to have such a person involved in our club.
by Front & Centre » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:52 am
Vinney wrote:Mister Footy and AFC, you seem to have a lot to say about the club and especially regarding the coaching position at the Valley. Are you involved in the club in any formal way? I would hope not!
I can tell it’s the clubs decision to advertise and I know Dent was keen to be reappointed before the season was finished. Four, five or six years is not too long depending on results and the improvement of players. This year Dents focus was on promoting juniors to step up a grade, if they were up to it. We have seen a large number of kids doing this year and we have had around 10 under 18’s play B grade and 4 play A grade. There would have been more if the others wanted to step up. A large number of players are having their best year for the club, so I would think the instructions Dent is giving has been followed out. The players understand and are happy.
Some stats for you to consider regarding Dents record;
No other club has won more A grade games than the Valleys in Dents time
No other club has won more A grade finals, Brighton have won the same number
No other club has scored more points for in A grade
No other club has conceded more points in A grade
I know a few other clubs that would like to have that record.
We all know 2013 turned out to be a big disappointment for the club, but I am not sure where you are coming from with the comment “Some risky selections on his mates last year”, please explain.
by Mister Footy » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:04 pm
by Look Good In Leather » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:03 pm
Mister Footy wrote:Enough talking about Dent - lets focus on the footy
by WHEELS&DEALS » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:26 pm
Vinney wrote:Mister Footy and AFC, you seem to have a lot to say about the club and especially regarding the coaching position at the Valley. Are you involved in the club in any formal way? I would hope not!
I can tell it’s the clubs decision to advertise and I know Dent was keen to be reappointed before the season was finished. Four, five or six years is not too long depending on results and the improvement of players. This year Dents focus was on promoting juniors to step up a grade, if they were up to it. We have seen a large number of kids doing this year and we have had around 10 under 18’s play B grade and 4 play A grade. There would have been more if the others wanted to step up. A large number of players are having their best year for the club, so I would think the instructions Dent is giving has been followed out. The players understand and are happy.
Some stats for you to consider regarding Dents record;
No other club has won more A grade games than the Valleys in Dents time
No other club has won more A grade finals, Brighton have won the same number
No other club has scored more points for in A grade
No other club has conceded more points in A grade
I know a few other clubs that would like to have that record.
We all know 2013 turned out to be a big disappointment for the club, but I am not sure where you are coming from with the comment “Some risky selections on his mates last year”, please explain.
by jet-airport » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:55 pm
Front & Centre wrote:Vinney wrote:Mister Footy and AFC, you seem to have a lot to say about the club and especially regarding the coaching position at the Valley. Are you involved in the club in any formal way? I would hope not!
I can tell it’s the clubs decision to advertise and I know Dent was keen to be reappointed before the season was finished. Four, five or six years is not too long depending on results and the improvement of players. This year Dents focus was on promoting juniors to step up a grade, if they were up to it. We have seen a large number of kids doing this year and we have had around 10 under 18’s play B grade and 4 play A grade. There would have been more if the others wanted to step up. A large number of players are having their best year for the club, so I would think the instructions Dent is giving has been followed out. The players understand and are happy.
Some stats for you to consider regarding Dents record;
No other club has won more A grade games than the Valleys in Dents time
No other club has won more A grade finals, Brighton have won the same number
No other club has scored more points for in A grade
No other club has conceded more points in A grade
I know a few other clubs that would like to have that record.
We all know 2013 turned out to be a big disappointment for the club, but I am not sure where you are coming from with the comment “Some risky selections on his mates last year”, please explain.
You have made a few interesting points here Vinney.
"This year Dents focus was on promoting juniors" Why only this year? Shouldnt an A grade coach always be looking to promote juniors?
"The players are happy" What makes you say this? Not sure that is 100% correct and is probably a contributing factor to the club advertising this year.
"4, 5 or 6 years is not too long depending on results" The results speak for themselves. As has been pointed out one premiership with all of your impressive stats is not a great return.
Club is making a good decision to see who else is out there
by Zelezny Chucks » Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:46 am
by Front & Centre » Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:32 pm
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