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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:00 pm

Tangles wrote:Pooraka surely have to repay their backers and deliver a trophy soon? That wage bill can't go season after season delivering nothing. I'd be putting my cash on PAOC to do a T20/2 day double.

Watson is in beast mode for sure. Hope Valley do have a habit of choking finals though, can he carry them across the line? I have my doubts. Have a funny feeling that Woody South might do something in the finals.

In A3 I think you're all right, SHOC are way too strong, it's their trophy for sure - their depth is outstanding whereas Modbury only have one player. Modbury will play their final tomorrow at Adelaide Oval and then that'll be them done - they've barely fallen over the line in a few of their recent games. Penfield and Concordia no match for SHOC either.

I cant see Woody South doing too much in finals. Very ordinary attack.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:23 pm

What is the point of having fielding restrictions in one day games if umpires arent going to police. Yesterday I saw one fielder in a catching position in first 15 overs. The supposed second catcher was 20m from bat and walking in with bowler. 6 fielders outside circle and 6 fielders on leg side at various times.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:06 pm

I assume tonight's T20 GF was washed out. Anyone know if they will replay the game or if it's just a draw?
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Re: ATCA

Postby Failed Creation » Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:37 am

Hey guys,

Does anyone know what Andrew Lydeamore is up to these days?

I played with him at Rose & Crown before he went to Ingle Farm, and I haven't heard from him in a long while.
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Re: ATCA

Postby human_torpedo » Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:08 am

Trader wrote:I assume tonight's T20 GF was washed out. Anyone know if they will replay the game or if it's just a draw?


Modbury were 2/6 off 2.3 with Miller and McNally out in a reduced 10 over game when it was called.. Its re-scheduled for tomorrow at Modbury I believe
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:36 am

Failed Creation wrote:Hey guys,

Does anyone know what Andrew Lydeamore is up to these days?

I played with him at Rose & Crown before he went to Ingle Farm, and I haven't heard from him in a long while.

Very handy left arm othodox bowler. He last played with Ingle Farm and that was about 4 years ago. Has a young family and also had some health issues which I believe is why he stopped playing.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:38 am

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Trader wrote:I assume tonight's T20 GF was washed out. Anyone know if they will replay the game or if it's just a draw?


Modbury were 2/6 off 2.3 with Miller and McNally out in a reduced 10 over game when it was called.. Its re-scheduled for tomorrow at Modbury I believe

Adelaide oval one day....Modbury oval the next......what a contrast!
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Re: ATCA

Postby OKC! » Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:53 am

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:What is the point of having fielding restrictions in one day games if umpires arent going to police. Yesterday I saw one fielder in a catching position in first 15 overs. The supposed second catcher was 20m from bat and walking in with bowler. 6 fielders outside circle and 6 fielders on leg side at various times.


Because the people running this league have their head so far up their fat arse they cant see anything.

By laws week after week are broken. Probably cause the people at the top cant read. Depending on what umpires u have too. We had a problem with a bylaw anf time restrictions recently. The ump wasnt even wearing a watch... can you believe that? I can. Depends really what your club name is as to what the result is!

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Re: ATCA

Postby Trader » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:41 am

Yup, the turf are struggling for consistency at the moment.
In Round 14 of the LO comp, they allowed MSCC to breach the bylaws and drop players from LO1 through the various other LO grades, without penalty and the sides they did it against just had to cop the loss.
In round 15, MSCC do it again, dropping an LO1 player to the LO2s, and because it was against Old Scotch, the turf ruled in Old Scotch's favour and awarded them the match points.
I would have thought dropping players from LO1 to LO4 and 5 is far worse than LO2, but apparently not...
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Re: ATCA

Postby helicopterking » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:35 am

Showers booked in for most the week, Hope Valley with no covers, it's a pretty important toss of the coin, as Unley have the bowling attack that will cause Them some issues.
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Re: ATCA

Postby thevoice » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:35 pm

HV would certainly be getting their hands on covers for this week. Would be silly not too.
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Re: ATCA

Postby heater31 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:39 pm

thevoice wrote:HV would certainly be getting their hands on covers for this week. Would be silly not too.



Are they allowed to? IIRC clubs have to advise the office at the beginning of the season if they have them or not. The expectation is then they would be used when the forecast isn't looking great.
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Re: ATCA

Postby OKC! » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:44 pm

Trader wrote:Yup, the turf are struggling for consistency at the moment.
In Round 14 of the LO comp, they allowed MSCC to breach the bylaws and drop players from LO1 through the various other LO grades, without penalty and the sides they did it against just had to cop the loss.
In round 15, MSCC do it again, dropping an LO1 player to the LO2s, and because it was against Old Scotch, the turf ruled in Old Scotch's favour and awarded them the match points.
I would have thought dropping players from LO1 to LO4 and 5 is far worse than LO2, but apparently not...


I would have thought that a by law is a bylaw. And no matter the circumstance, abide by it.

They pick and choose which ones to enfore. Pointless having a book.

The time restriction penatly was not enforced in a T20 game, even after showing the umpires the clear law in the book. One of the umpires lefy straight away because he didnt want to discuss it. Piss weak. The other umpire stayed and spoke to the players regarding the decison, good on him for that... but he said and i quote..

'They have clearly broken a by law and they should be penalised but ive already told them they won and I would feel bad for them' and also
'I feel like im stuck in the middle of this'

Well yes you are mate. You are the ump.

Once ATCA looked at it, they threw it out. Probably need to play for woody recs to get that decison.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Tangles » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:00 pm

OKC! wrote:
Trader wrote:Yup, the turf are struggling for consistency at the moment.
In Round 14 of the LO comp, they allowed MSCC to breach the bylaws and drop players from LO1 through the various other LO grades, without penalty and the sides they did it against just had to cop the loss.
In round 15, MSCC do it again, dropping an LO1 player to the LO2s, and because it was against Old Scotch, the turf ruled in Old Scotch's favour and awarded them the match points.
I would have thought dropping players from LO1 to LO4 and 5 is far worse than LO2, but apparently not...


I would have thought that a by law is a bylaw. And no matter the circumstance, abide by it.

They pick and choose which ones to enfore. Pointless having a book.

The time restriction penatly was not enforced in a T20 game, even after showing the umpires the clear law in the book. One of the umpires lefy straight away because he didnt want to discuss it. Piss weak. The other umpire stayed and spoke to the players regarding the decison, good on him for that... but he said and i quote..

'They have clearly broken a by law and they should be penalised but ive already told them they won and I would feel bad for them' and also
'I feel like im stuck in the middle of this'

Well yes you are mate. You are the ump.

Once ATCA looked at it, they threw it out. Probably need to play for woody recs to get that decison.


Hey there Mr Kettle, the Pot's on the phone and asked me to let you know you're black. I was at that game, only one side was actually trying to waste time and it isn't the one that won the game.
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Re: ATCA

Postby thevoice » Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:24 pm

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thevoice wrote:HV would certainly be getting their hands on covers for this week. Would be silly not too.



Are they allowed to? IIRC clubs have to advise the office at the beginning of the season if they have them or not. The expectation is then they would be used when the forecast isn't looking great.


Yep you can. And if you want to host an A Grade grand final, you have to have them. If not, you don't get one. So I'd say the'd be onto it.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:10 pm

thevoice wrote:
heater31 wrote:
thevoice wrote:HV would certainly be getting their hands on covers for this week. Would be silly not too.



Are they allowed to? IIRC clubs have to advise the office at the beginning of the season if they have them or not. The expectation is then they would be used when the forecast isn't looking great.


Yep you can. And if you want to host an A Grade grand final, you have to have them. If not, you don't get one. So I'd say the'd be onto it.

This isn't correct is it? I thought all Semi Finals and Grand Finals in ATCA A Grade are played on the home ground of the higher ranked team. Nothing to do with having covers.
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Re: ATCA

Postby thevoice » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:17 pm

Yep they are. But in order to host an A Grade grand final you have to have Covers available, whether you've registered at the start of the year or not. So if you don't have them, you have to hire or borrow them. If you don't have covers available, you don't get the opportunity to host the GF. ATCA changed this last year. Stops rain in the A Grade comp letting teams win flags by default/higher ladder position (unless of course its massive downpour).
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Re: ATCA

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:17 pm

My understanding was that, in the higher grades, covers were mandatory, along with sightscreens (?).
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:19 pm

Tangles wrote:
OKC! wrote:
Trader wrote:Yup, the turf are struggling for consistency at the moment.
In Round 14 of the LO comp, they allowed MSCC to breach the bylaws and drop players from LO1 through the various other LO grades, without penalty and the sides they did it against just had to cop the loss.
In round 15, MSCC do it again, dropping an LO1 player to the LO2s, and because it was against Old Scotch, the turf ruled in Old Scotch's favour and awarded them the match points.
I would have thought dropping players from LO1 to LO4 and 5 is far worse than LO2, but apparently not...


I would have thought that a by law is a bylaw. And no matter the circumstance, abide by it.

They pick and choose which ones to enfore. Pointless having a book.

The time restriction penatly was not enforced in a T20 game, even after showing the umpires the clear law in the book. One of the umpires lefy straight away because he didnt want to discuss it. Piss weak. The other umpire stayed and spoke to the players regarding the decison, good on him for that... but he said and i quote..

'They have clearly broken a by law and they should be penalised but ive already told them they won and I would feel bad for them' and also
'I feel like im stuck in the middle of this'

Well yes you are mate. You are the ump.

Once ATCA looked at it, they threw it out. Probably need to play for woody recs to get that decison.


Hey there Mr Kettle, the Pot's on the phone and asked me to let you know you're black. I was at that game, only one side was actually trying to waste time and it isn't the one that won the game.

Are you saying the umpires erred by not deducting 6 runs from Pooraka's total for deliberately wasting time?

"The umpire can deduct 6 runs from the batting teams score if they believe the batsmen are deliberately wasting time. It is the batsman’s job to be ready to face as soon as the bowler is ready."
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:22 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:My understanding was that, in the higher grades, covers were mandatory, along with sightscreens (?).

Neither covers or sightscreens are mandatory in A2
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