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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:00 pm

Was more referring to his numbers compared to 2013 - he was down almost 25% in disposals per game, and clearly didn't have the impact he did in 2013. Not to say he had a bad year, far from it. Wines and Gray and a few others taking big strides forward probably made it look worse than it did too.

And I'm pretty sure I would go for the cheap shot once he had hit the ground :)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:04 pm

No doubt the kid can play, but gee as a port supporter he would have to frustrate you somewhat?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby the milky bar kid » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:09 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:No doubt the kid can play, but gee as a port supporter he would have to frustrate you somewhat?


Yes and no. If he was 25 & had a year like last I'd be more frustrated. However, he's 21 & last year was his first year as being a focal point for oppositions to stop. Probably received more defensive scrutiny than any other Port forward last year (even after Gray started going ballistic). The big key to his development will be if he is able to work thru increased attention. Hopefully an increased fitness base & midfield time will help him with this.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:25 pm

the milky bar kid wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:No doubt the kid can play, but gee as a port supporter he would have to frustrate you somewhat?


Yes and no. If he was 25 & had a year like last I'd be more frustrated. However, he's 21 & last year was his first year as being a focal point for oppositions to stop. Probably received more defensive scrutiny than any other Port forward last year (even after Gray started going ballistic). The big key to his development will be if he is able to work thru increased attention. Hopefully an increased fitness base & midfield time will help him with this.


Which is why missing a month now can't be good for him
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby the milky bar kid » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:26 pm

bennymacca wrote:
the milky bar kid wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:No doubt the kid can play, but gee as a port supporter he would have to frustrate you somewhat?


Yes and no. If he was 25 & had a year like last I'd be more frustrated. However, he's 21 & last year was his first year as being a focal point for oppositions to stop. Probably received more defensive scrutiny than any other Port forward last year (even after Gray started going ballistic). The big key to his development will be if he is able to work thru increased attention. Hopefully an increased fitness base & midfield time will help him with this.


Which is why missing a month now can't be good for him


Yeah, but it must be better than nursing him week to week.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:41 pm

the milky bar kid wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:No doubt the kid can play, but gee as a port supporter he would have to frustrate you somewhat?


Yes and no. If he was 25 & had a year like last I'd be more frustrated. However, he's 21 & last year was his first year as being a focal point for oppositions to stop. Probably received more defensive scrutiny than any other Port forward last year (even after Gray started going ballistic). The big key to his development will be if he is able to work thru increased attention. Hopefully an increased fitness base & midfield time will help him with this.


He also started getting a mid/tall defender rather than a small defender. Took his overhead marking out somewhat which was clearly a strength in 2013, so no doubt he will have to work through that, which im sure he is.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby carey » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:39 pm

bennymacca wrote:
the milky bar kid wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:No doubt the kid can play, but gee as a port supporter he would have to frustrate you somewhat?


Yes and no. If he was 25 & had a year like last I'd be more frustrated. However, he's 21 & last year was his first year as being a focal point for oppositions to stop. Probably received more defensive scrutiny than any other Port forward last year (even after Gray started going ballistic). The big key to his development will be if he is able to work thru increased attention. Hopefully an increased fitness base & midfield time will help him with this.


Which is why missing a month now can't be good for him


I think your missing the point Benny. Missing a month is not good for any player at any time of the year but the fact is, We would much prefer Chad to miss 4 weeks in January/February than 4 weeks in April/May.
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Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:41 pm

Reckon April may almost. Losing your fitness base now can put your whole season in the back foot. Which is not something he needs if he is to take they step up to elite territory. He was pretty much there in 2013 but went back a bit last year and I can see this hurting him a bit
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby carey » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:00 pm

bennymacca wrote:Reckon April may almost. Losing your fitness base now can put your whole season in the back foot. Which is not something he needs if he is to take they step up to elite territory. He was pretty much there in 2013 but went back a bit last year and I can see this hurting him a bit


I think we'll agree to disagree on this one mate...... :D
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby kickinit » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:08 pm

bennymacca wrote:Reckon April may almost. Losing your fitness base now can put your whole season in the back foot. Which is not something he needs if he is to take they step up to elite territory. He was pretty much there in 2013 but went back a bit last year and I can see this hurting him a bit


Won't even effect his fitness base come rd1. he's having 4 weeks off from a minor clean out and has 6 weeks to after that until round 1. If he lost his fitness base you have bigger problems then his clean out.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:29 am

Any port supporters concerned about Patrick Ryder and Monfries being suspended?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Jim05 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:37 am

woodublieve12 wrote:Any port supporters concerned about Patrick Ryder and Monfries being suspended?

Worst case is they miss the first 2-3 rounds IMO.
May not miss any for awhile, plenty still saying this still has 2-3 years left to run
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby hawks21 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:01 am

Jim05 wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Any port supporters concerned about Patrick Ryder and Monfries being suspended?

Worst case is they miss the first 2-3 rounds IMO.
May not miss any for awhile, plenty still saying this still has 2-3 years left to run

Think they might look to take deals to get this thing done and dusted so they can get on with the season. If it does drag into the season will they be able to play as arnt they technically suspended?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby MW » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:28 am

woodublieve12 wrote:Any port supporters concerned about Patrick Ryder and Monfries being suspended?


I would be more worried about the injuries they are starting to get...Trengrove, Wingard, now Hartlett.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby David Brent » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:41 am

MW wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Any port supporters concerned about Patrick Ryder and Monfries being suspended?


I would be more worried about the injuries they are starting to get...Trengrove, Wingard, now Hartlett.


x2 only took 3 pre season injuries to derail Richmond last year in the first half of they year to key players like those above. Makes a huge difference to a clubs season. Granted that Port have more depth to cover injuries though..
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:01 am

David Brent wrote:
MW wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Any port supporters concerned about Patrick Ryder and Monfries being suspended?


I would be more worried about the injuries they are starting to get...Trengrove, Wingard, now Hartlett.


x2 only took 3 pre season injuries to derail Richmond last year in the first half of they year to key players like those above. Makes a huge difference to a clubs season. Granted that Port have more depth to cover injuries though..


None of the injuries seem to serious, although Hartlett doing another hamstring we hoped was a thing of the past.

Trengove was unlucky by the sound of it and Wingard was one that could be managed or fixed, the decision was to fix it.

All of them should be back on the track in 4 weeks, meaning perhaps only 1 or 2 weeks on top of their current fitness levels prior to the season proper. Not perfect but hardly a disaster.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby the milky bar kid » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:07 am

Booney wrote:
David Brent wrote:x2 only took 3 pre season injuries to derail Richmond last year in the first half of they year to key players like those above. Makes a huge difference to a clubs season. Granted that Port have more depth to cover injuries though..


None of the injuries seem to serious, although Hartlett doing another hamstring we hoped was a thing of the past.

Trengove was unlucky by the sound of it and Wingard was one that could be managed or fixed, the decision was to fix it.

All of them should be back on the track in 4 weeks, meaning perhaps only 1 or 2 weeks on top of their current fitness levels prior to the season proper. Not perfect but hardly a disaster.


And Port is not like Richmond :-BD :-BD
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby valleys07 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:13 am

Booney wrote:
David Brent wrote:
MW wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Any port supporters concerned about Patrick Ryder and Monfries being suspended?


I would be more worried about the injuries they are starting to get...Trengrove, Wingard, now Hartlett.


x2 only took 3 pre season injuries to derail Richmond last year in the first half of they year to key players like those above. Makes a huge difference to a clubs season. Granted that Port have more depth to cover injuries though..


None of the injuries seem to serious, although Hartlett doing another hamstring we hoped was a thing of the past.

Trengove was unlucky by the sound of it and Wingard was one that could be managed or fixed, the decision was to fix it.

All of them should be back on the track in 4 weeks, meaning perhaps only 1 or 2 weeks on top of their current fitness levels prior to the season proper. Not perfect but hardly a disaster.


Exactly right.

Trengove has a proven track record of returning early from injury, and playing a significant role for us. He will be resuming running next week, and has a strong enough body to deal with the rigors of key position defending, not to mention he is a seasoned campaigner now having been in the system for 6 or so years.

Wingard will be fine. 4 weeks off with the knee wont effect him too much. He is likely to have spurts in the midfield this season, but 4 weeks off will hardly hamper his ability to perform his role within the side. Ken Hinkley knows Chad only needs 10 touches a game to influence the result, so his 2013 numbers possession wise will be a thing of the past until he gets more midfield minutes. 2-3 goals a game, 3 score involvements will be him playing his role in Ken's eyes (and mine too).

Hartlett concerns me. As Boon mentioned- soft tissue injuries were looking to be a thing of the past for him. He tweeted that there is nothing to worry about, but he cant afford to have lengthy periods on the sidelines this season, or be underdone, as he is an incredibly important link to our midfield in terms of long kicks to one on one contests.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby valleys07 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:36 pm

Amid reports Hammer had suffered a hamstring strain and would miss 3-4, PAFC have confirmed it was just a 'scare', and Hamish will resume running on Monday.

Great news!
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:50 am

this is certanily not port bashing but on the back of the advertiser it said something about port being a powerhouse. ZI'm not saying port won't be competitve this year and will certainly be around the mark but have port earned the name 'powerhouse'?

Again i'm certainly not having a crack at port. just interested to hear port supporters thoughts.
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