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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:40 pm

bennymacca wrote:My interpretation would be in say the top 100 players in the league


Bit too general there, only 396 players take the field each week, so 1 in 4 is an A grader?

Id say top 30 in the comp would be A grade status.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:41 pm

Roughead is a beast. Second best forward in the comp behind buddy imo.

Hawthorn could have 10 a graders imo.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:42 pm

Dutchy wrote:
bennymacca wrote:My interpretation would be in say the top 100 players in the league


Bit too general there, only 396 players take the field each week, so 1 in 4 is an A grader?

Id say top 30 in the comp would be A grade status.


Top 100 might be too generous but 30 too few imo
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:43 pm

bennymacca wrote:Roughead is a beast. Second best forward in the comp behind buddy imo.

Hawthorn could have 10 a graders imo.


I disagree, ( the beauty of this forum ) I think they've got 3 maybe 4 A graders and a stack of B+++ like the ones I mentioned.

( Roughead very nearly got the A grade from me )

I'll take some time over the coming days and make a list of who I think are each clubs A Graders.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:43 pm

Dutchy wrote:
bennymacca wrote:My interpretation would be in say the top 100 players in the league


Bit too general there, only 396 players take the field each week, so 1 in 4 is an A grader?

Id say top 30 in the comp would be A grade status.


Yeah, agreed, I think A Grader I think along the lines of an All Australian side. Maybe 25-30 absolute tops.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:46 pm

if you make the squad of 40 in any given year that is an "A grade" year imo.

I wonder how many players per team have done that, over say the past 5 years.

That would probably be a fair indication?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:46 pm

Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Roughead is a beast. Second best forward in the comp behind buddy imo.

Hawthorn could have 10 a graders imo.


I disagree, ( the beauty of this forum ) I think they've got 3 maybe 4 A graders and a stack of B+++ like the ones I mentioned.

( Roughead very nearly got the A grade from me )

I'll take some time over the coming days and make a list of who I think are each clubs A Graders.


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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:49 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Roughead is a beast. Second best forward in the comp behind buddy imo.

Hawthorn could have 10 a graders imo.


I disagree, ( the beauty of this forum ) I think they've got 3 maybe 4 A graders and a stack of B+++ like the ones I mentioned.

( Roughead very nearly got the A grade from me )

I'll take some time over the coming days and make a list of who I think are each clubs A Graders.


gee you are a hard task master...


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Sorry Booney, you are wrong on this one :D
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby valleys07 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:50 pm

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
bennymacca wrote:My interpretation would be in say the top 100 players in the league


Bit too general there, only 396 players take the field each week, so 1 in 4 is an A grader?

Id say top 30 in the comp would be A grade status.


Yeah, agreed, I think A Grader I think along the lines of an All Australian side. Maybe 25-30 absolute tops.


That is generally my guide.

Hence why I don't think Wines is quite A grade yet, as he wouldn't be a candidate for the AA shortlist.

Had we got a full season from Polec at 25+ touches and 1-1.5 goals a game, that would be an interesting debate.

Although- centre square mids generally fill the spots on the wing in the AA team, not genuine outside mids or wingmen.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:50 pm

I'll concede here. No problem with that.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:54 pm

What about Rory Sloane then?

Maybe its my bias, but there is no way he isnt an A grader, even though he hasnt been an all australian.

And Cale Hooker, Nick Smith, Will Minson, Sean Dempster - all have made AA teams in the past few years, but i probably wouldnt call any of them A Graders, even in that year. (Not disputing they didnt have an AA worthy year though)

edit: Booney conceded, but ill argue with him anyway given I had already typed this out :D
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:56 pm

:lol:

Sloane, yes.

Can an A grader be seen as a player who you just know will show up every week, week in week out?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:58 pm

Booney wrote::lol:

Sloane, yes.

Can an A grader be seen as a player who you just know will show up every week, week in week out?


If thats his role, and at that specific role he is in the top few in the comp, then yes.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby JK » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:01 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Booney wrote::lol:

Sloane, yes.

Can an A grader be seen as a player who you just know will show up every week, week in week out?


If thats his role, and at that specific role he is in the top few in the comp, then yes.


Was just about to make the point that player position/role probably need to come into the equation in any rating system, given midfielders are likely going to make up 20 of the best 25-30 players. Then add Roughy, Buddy, Goldy and the like and it doesn't leave much room for anyone else.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:07 pm

Id have Roughy over Buddy
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:12 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Id have Roughy over Buddy


I think almost all of us would agree.

Sydney only need to pay Buddy $1m per year for the next 8 years too!
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:01 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Id have Roughy over Buddy


If I were picking a team from all available players he would be my first pick. Most valuable player in the league.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby whufc » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:09 pm

bennymacca wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Roughead is a beast. Second best forward in the comp behind buddy imo.

Hawthorn could have 10 a graders imo.


I disagree, ( the beauty of this forum ) I think they've got 3 maybe 4 A graders and a stack of B+++ like the ones I mentioned.

( Roughead very nearly got the A grade from me )

I'll take some time over the coming days and make a list of who I think are each clubs A Graders.


gee you are a hard task master...


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Sorry Booney, you are wrong on this one :D


Agree for the position he plays, his versality and his importance to his side he is A+++++++++++++++
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:48 pm

@valleys07 there might be a surprise big man selection at Alberton tonight.
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Port Adelaide 2015

Postby RustyCage » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:53 pm

Butch!

That would be a surprise....
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