Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

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Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:43 pm

Johno6 wrote:Only reason I keep checking back in this thread is to see LM's post he promised me he would write.....


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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Booney » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:50 pm

Footy Chick wrote:FFS, they're dead.

Can't we just end this god forsaken argument? It's not going to bring them back.

i'm sick of hearing about it, I'm sure others are too.


Don't come into this thread then.

No I don't think so, this argument, one as strong and as divisive as it is surrounding the death penalty should not stop, certainly not because someone is sick of hearing about it.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Footy Chick » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:53 pm

I didnt mean the discussion of the death penalty in general but in relation to the bali duo.

I don't come in here (normally), it's just all i've seen on my telly for the last 4 days - meanwhile, people we should be feeling sorry for have died in their thousands in Nepal....
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:54 pm

Are you writing/doing anything to help those in Nepal, FC?
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Footy Chick » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:13 pm

What are you getting at?

We have plenty going on right here that we're ignoring. WGAF what's happening in a corrupted pig of a place like Bali
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:20 pm

Apologies, I meant Nepal.

I find that lots of people say, "why are we discussing this when there's so much else going on in the world, such as in Nepal", but don't actually say/do anything about that particular issue themselves - instead they complain about the coverage this situation is getting, further contributing to the discussion, and continue to seek opportunities to express that opinion. In fact, many wouldn't even care about what was going on in Nepal (it would just be another disaster happening to people we know nothing about somewhere else in the world) if it weren't for the fact that it gives them a point to argue in this debate.

I'm not saying that person is you, but I think it's a fair question to ask when someone makes that point.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Footy Chick » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:47 pm

No, You're right - it probably is me :lol:

I guess my point here, is that although I'm pretty non commital to most things that happen o/seas and don't affect me, one tends to have more feelings of empathy for innocent people.

Note the word innocent.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:55 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Are you writing/doing anything to help those in Nepal, FC?


What happened in Nepal?
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:26 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Are you writing/doing anything to help those in Nepal, FC?


What happened in Nepal?


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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Footy Chick » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:35 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
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Dogwatcher wrote:Are you writing/doing anything to help those in Nepal, FC?


What happened in Nepal?


Some llamas got squashed.


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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:02 pm

Thank you, I've just been informed.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby stan » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:19 pm

Footy Chick wrote:No, You're right - it probably is me [emoji38]

I guess my point here, is that although I'm pretty non commital to most things that happen o/seas and don't affect me, one tends to have more feelings of empathy for innocent people.

Note the word innocent.

Agree with you a bit there FC in regards to Nepal and the word innocent. And yes that should have more media coverage than the bali duo but im reality its not controversial enough for the main stream media amd I suspect there on lies the real issue.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:09 pm

Booney wrote:From today we can assume nobody will ever smuggle drugs again then, yes?


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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Gozu » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:30 pm

The AFP should hang their heads in shame over this.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Coach Bombay » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:56 pm

To the Indonesian president I stick my middle finger up. It's not just the families of Myu, Andrew and the 7 other people who's lives were impacted last night, but also the beautiful and friendly people of your country who do not deserve to be tainted by the barbaric actions of your government. Here's to hoping the stories and strength of Myu and Andrew leave a legacy in human rights and provide a catalyst for change in international justice. Last night will not end youthful self-indulgence, it won't end corruption, it won't end the trafficking of drugs, but what it has ended is the lives of 9 people and the contributions and influences their existence was having on so many people. The whole argument about sovereignty is ridiculous. South Africa, a sovereign nation, had apartheid. Where would we be if other countries had not expressed criticism and condemnation of what they were doing. State sanctioned murder is wrong. And in this case, execution was completely disproportionate to the crime. If they'd made it to Australia with the heroin, they would likely have gotten a sentence of incarceration for 8-10 years. I can't believe how heartless people are being. People make mistakes. The death penalty can never be excused as it allows a state a means by which it can pick and choose who is fit to live and who isnt. Once the state has that power it can easily be abused for political means or anything else. Look at any country that uses the death penalty from the us to indonesia and you will find such abuses of power.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Gozu » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:04 pm

Credit to Axl Rose from Guns N' Roses at least he tried.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/axl-ro ... xecutions/
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Failed Creation » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:21 pm

Gozu wrote:Credit to Axl Rose from Guns N' Roses at least he tried.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/axl-ro ... xecutions/


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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Footy Chick » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:57 pm

Gozu wrote:The AFP should hang their heads in shame over this.



Oh, I didn't realise the AFP forced them to strap drugs to their bodies.
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby RustyCage » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:04 am

Footy Chick wrote:
Gozu wrote:The AFP should hang their heads in shame over this.



Oh, I didn't realise the AFP forced them to strap drugs to their bodies.


Exactly, how dare the AFP catch some criminals
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Re: Bali Nine - is the death penalty justice?

Postby Johno6 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:27 am

im assuming this is the first time anyone has ever been executed in Indonesia?
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