Sheffield Shield Season 2015/2016

[Burras]

Think you'll find that experience had a lot to play in this match..

SA's average age was 25 , with Mark Cosgrove being our most capped international player in the side with 3 ODI's.
Victoria's average age was 28, with players like Rob Quiney, Matthew Wade, Cameron White and Dan Christian all having sustainable careers in International cricket.

To go from bottom to top and to do so with a young list of players majority from SA is a massive step forward for cricket in SA and should be applauded regardless of the result!

[Brodlach]

Think you'll find that experience had a lot to play in this match..

SA's average age was 25 , with Mark Cosgrove being our most capped international player in the side with 3 ODI's.
Victoria's average age was 28, with players like Rob Quiney, Matthew Wade, Cameron White and Dan Christian all having sustainable careers in International cricket.

To go from bottom to top and to do so with a young list of players majority from SA is a massive step forward for cricket in SA and should be applauded regardless of the result!

C'mon Burras, no positively allowed in this thread

[Corona Man]

Think you'll find that experience had a lot to play in this match..

SA's average age was 25 , with Mark Cosgrove being our most capped international player in the side with 3 ODI's.
Victoria's average age was 28, with players like Rob Quiney, Matthew Wade, Cameron White and Dan Christian all having sustainable careers in International cricket.

To go from bottom to top and to do so with a young list of players majority from SA is a massive step forward for cricket in SA and should be applauded regardless of the result!

I actually agree with most of what you are saying, however the two in bold here would not fit into the "sustainable" bracket of international careers for me.....

[bennymacca]

i think he means substantial. Christian played 34 matches for Australia, Quiney 2 tests. Christian i reckon counts as substantial

[Jim05]

Interesting to hear that from next season on CA has decided to use Dukes for the second half of each season. Kookaburras will be used up to the Christmas break and the Dukes used for remainder of season including the Final.
The aim to prepare players for upcoming overseas tours especially England

[test]

I did see something about that, why not just use them full time?

[The Dark Knight]

Interesting to hear that from next season on CA has decided to use Dukes for the second half of each season. Kookaburras will be used up to the Christmas break and the Dukes used for remainder of season including the Final.
The aim to prepare players for upcoming overseas tours especially England

Was only a matter of time before CA would try it I thought. Happy they're trying it out.

[Jim05]

I did see something about that, why not just use them full time?

The idea is that we use the Kooka's up to Christmas as we use them in home test series.
After the New Years test we would swap to the Dukes in preparation for OS tours

[heater31]

I did see something about that, why not just use them full time?

Because Kookaburra would say get ******!

Reckon they would be used for every cricket competition in Australia and I fail to see how facing a Duke ball in Australian conditions is going to help the test team in England

Pity the poor pricks that get dropped or brought into their shield side after Christmas next year......

[The Dark Knight]

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/south-au ... 2016-03-30

[stampy]

back to the final, the batsmen let us down ad that all there is to it, from 0/90 to 5/185 in the first dig followed by 0/48 to 4/76 in the second innings isnt going to win or draw you too many matches unfortunately

[heater31]

back to the final, the batsmen let us down ad that all there is to it, from 0/90 to 5/185 in the first dig followed by 0/48 to 4/76 in the second innings isnt going to win or draw you too many matches unfortunately

Spot on

Head, Lehmann failed to fire in either innings turned out to be huge wickets for the Vics

[tigerpie]

Seems to me that the SA squad has a good amount of depth now and this loss is a stepping stone to sustained success.
Head's inexperience showed but he learnt more from this game than all his others combined.
I think the national selectors may take a bit more notice in who's going well now, so that depth is going to be tested next season.
Siddons is a gun!

[jackpot jim]

Could someone help me out with the following

1/ Who are the selectors

2/ Did anyone hear an explanation from anyone important (i.e. Selectors or captain) before, during or after the match as to why they went into the game without a specialist spinner?

3/ Why would they play an all out pace attack and then bat 1st after winning the toss when theoretically the most help in the pitch for the pace bowlers would have been early on day 1?
Only logical explanation i can see is that after seeing that Vic had named 2 specialist spinners, they didnt want them to have last use of a day 5 pitch.
Which then lends more weight to the argument that it was poor selection as its risky business to put all your eggs in the one basket as they did when its only 50/50 you're gonna win the toss and also not knowing the make up of the oppositions team.

We'll never know now whether selecting a specialist spinner would have made a difference or not but i agree with Stampy, the batting simply didnt stand up to be counted in either innings with significant collapses in both innings after very solid starts.

Lots of positive signs for years to come and lets hope they dont do away with the Shield Final as i think it was a fantastic game and the Best side did win!
Also worth remembering that if the Shield was won by the TOP finishing team this season it would NOT have been the Redbacks as quite simply the game in Alice would NOT have ended in a draw under those circumstances and SA would have finished 2nd.

[Corona Man]

Could someone help me out with the following

1/ Who are the selectors

2/ Did anyone hear an explanation from anyone important (i.e. Selectors or captain) before, during or after the match as to why they went into the game without a specialist spinner?

3/ Why would they play an all out pace attack and then bat 1st after winning the toss when theoretically the most help in the pitch for the pace bowlers would have been early on day 1?
Only logical explanation i can see is that after seeing that Vic had named 2 specialist spinners, they didnt want them to have last use of a day 5 pitch.
Which then lends more weight to the argument that it was poor selection as its risky business to put all your eggs in the one basket as they did when its only 50/50 you're gonna win the toss and also not knowing the make up of the oppositions team.

We'll never know now whether selecting a specialist spinner would have made a difference or not but i agree with Stampy, the batting simply didnt stand up to be counted in either innings with significant collapses in both innings after very solid starts.

Lots of positive signs for years to come and lets hope they dont do away with the Shield Final as i think it was a fantastic game and the Best side did win!
Also worth remembering that if the Shield was won by the TOP finishing team this season it would NOT have been the Redbacks as quite simply the game in Alice would NOT have ended in a draw under those circumstances and SA would have finished 2nd.

Siddons after the game said they did not think we had a spinner "good enough", had Zampa been available he would have played, but the next spinner in line (Andrews?) was not up to it.....or word to that affect..

[jackpot jim]

Wow !!!! So in an entire season they could not find 1 spinner capable of playing a role in a 5 day Shield Final apart from Zampa who has a 1st class average of OVER 50
Why the hell did they pick Andrews as 12th man then if they didnt consider him good enough to play a role anyway?
Gee, real confident booster for the lad if that was the message spruiked by the coach after the game as to why they didnt play a spinner.

[CoverKing]

Marcus Harris has left WA to join Victoria.

[heater31]

CA release the National Performance Squad for the winter training program.

CA announce 17-man National Performance Squad


Interestingly both SA's representatives are uncontracted to the Redbacks

[The Bedge]

CA release the National Performance Squad for the winter training program.

CA announce 17-man National Performance Squad


Interestingly both SA's representatives are uncontracted to the Redbacks

Interesting squad...

[Eagles2014]

CA release the National Performance Squad for the winter training program.

CA announce 17-man National Performance Squad


Interestingly both SA's representatives are uncontracted to the Redbacks

Am hearing that Cosgrove has been cut by Redbacks (thought he had one more year of contract to go?). Interesting decision as keeping Cossy this year meant we could not play Botha - how handy would he have been in the Shield Final!

Needed to get rid of him to give Patrick Page Jnr a full contract, they were afraid they might lose him to another state like happened to Jake Doran.

Also given half contracts (rookies?) to Wes Agar and David Grant who are on this list, plus Michael Cormack, obviously to stop the other states signing them also.