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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:28 pm

Corona Man wrote:I would like the poms to put up a bit better fight than what they dished up last night.... to be bundled out for a little over 100 runs in 37 overs, on a pitch that Australia had managed to only loose 10 wickets in compiling over 700 runs really is a disgrace. Complete lack of back bone, ticker, call it what you will. I want the Aussies to win, but have some pride in your country & who you represent ENGLAND.

I want our boys to belt England by as much as possible every game they play but the Poms looked like a completely different side, the England of old we've seen before, just capitulated very quickly. Australia were unsettled in Cardiff from the outset and it was always going to take them at least the first test match to find their feet, meanwhile England came out hungry and desperate, only for them to go to water in this second test.

Will England bounce back? Can Australia maintain their form they've found at Lords? This has already been an intriguing series, great test match cricket!!
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:32 pm

Was mentioned today the Poms have admitted their pitch tactics have failed and their is a possibility Edgbaston will be a real seamer. They will back their bowlers in to do the job. Looks like Rogers will miss so Watto or Snick Marsh will come in to open. Could be a 2 day test :D
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:37 pm

Jim05 wrote:Was mentioned today the Poms have admitted their pitch tactics have failed and their is a possibility Edgbaston will be a real seamer. They will back their bowlers in to do the job. Looks like Rogers will miss so Watto or Snick Marsh will come in to open. Could be a 2 day test :D


Interesting, will they actually have the balls to make it a bowler friendly pitch though?

God I hope Rogers is available, we can't have Marsh or Watson opening FFS
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby tigerpie » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:38 pm

Jim05 wrote:Did Jimmy go and have a beer with the Aussies?
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We could have bought him a beer for every wicket he got.

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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Corona Man » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:46 am

Jim05 wrote:Was mentioned today the Poms have admitted their pitch tactics have failed and their is a possibility Edgbaston will be a real seamer. They will back their bowlers in to do the job. Looks like Rogers will miss so Watto or Snick Marsh will come in to open. Could be a 2 day test :D


I hope they do prepare a green top seaming wicket.... our blokes will knock them over for 35...
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:08 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Was mentioned today the Poms have admitted their pitch tactics have failed and their is a possibility Edgbaston will be a real seamer. They will back their bowlers in to do the job. Looks like Rogers will miss so Watto or Snick Marsh will come in to open. Could be a 2 day test :D


Interesting, will they actually have the balls to make it a bowler friendly pitch though?

God I hope Rogers is available, we can't have Marsh or Watson opening FFS


I'm not that fussed, it's either going to make or break one of them or finally finish the other. Watto came good when he opened last time round, I'm not sure that I'd like to expose Smith in the 5th over though.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:21 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Was mentioned today the Poms have admitted their pitch tactics have failed and their is a possibility Edgbaston will be a real seamer. They will back their bowlers in to do the job. Looks like Rogers will miss so Watto or Snick Marsh will come in to open. Could be a 2 day test :D


Interesting, will they actually have the balls to make it a bowler friendly pitch though?

God I hope Rogers is available, we can't have Marsh or Watson opening FFS


I'm not that fussed, it's either going to make or break one of them or finally finish the other. Watto came good when he opened last time round, I'm not sure that I'd like to expose Smith in the 5th over though.


Wouldn't like to, I agree, but that's why your best batter bats at three (hence, I never bat at three).
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Booney » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:43 pm

Update on Rogers :

Opener still a chance to play third Test as more information on his condition is revealed
Australia opener Chris Rogers remains a chance of playing in the third Ashes Test that starts in Birmingham next week after being cleared of any serious damage following the dizzy spells that forced him to retire while batting at Lord’s on Sunday.

Rogers, who was forced to miss two Tests in the West Indies last month after suffering from concussion, will not play in the upcoming tour match against Derbyshire that begins on Thursday and will be further reviewed by a London-based specialist tomorrow. But Australia’s Bupa Support Team Doctor Peter Brukner said today the dizzy spells that Rogers suffered shortly after resuming his innings on Sunday morning were likely to be the result of a delayed ear problem from a blow he received while batting on the second morning at Lord’s.


Just weeks after he was concussed by a net bowler at training in Dominica prior to the first Test in the Caribbean, Rogers was hit by a bouncer from England’s James Anderson that thudded into his protective batting helmet just above his right ear. The 37-year-old was treated on the field for a small cut behind his ear caused when the impact forced the helmet to break the skin, but he continued batting on to record a career-best Test score of 173 and fielded throughout England’s first innings without ill effect.

It was only when he appeared to be struggling with his balance and then sunk to his haunches after two overs of play on Sunday morning that concerns were raised that it might be a neurological problem related to the earlier blows, and he was eventually forced to leave the field.

He took no further part in the remainder of Australia’s 405-run win in the second Test, and he will remain in London while a bulk of Australia’s squad travels to Derby later today to play the three-day tour game prior to the third Test that begins at Edgbaston on July 29.

“Chris’s condition is certainly improving,” Brukner said today. “He has had scans and seen a specialist since (Sunday) to help determine the cause of his dizziness. “The initial scans have cleared him of any serious damage and we await the results of further tests.

“It appears the most likely diagnosis is a delayed ear problem related to being struck on day two of the Test match. “We are confident that this is something we can manage in the lead up to the third Test at Edgbaston.

“As a precaution he’ll be reviewed by the specialist in London again on Wednesday morning before re-joining the touring party. “Chris was not scheduled to play in the tour match against Derbyshire, so he has time to continue resting ahead of the Test match.”

Fast bowlers Mitchell Johnson, Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood as well as batsman Steve Smith – man of the match in the thumping second Test win – will also remain in London for a few days before rejoining the touring party ahead of the third Test. That will leave Australia with a bare minimum 12 players available for the Derbyshire match, which means both ‘keepers Brad Haddin and Peter Nevill will be part of the XI with spinner Nathan Lyon expected to be handed 12th man duties.

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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby bennymacca » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:59 pm

good news
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:02 pm

bennymacca wrote:good news

Even better news:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-20/a ... st/6635264

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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:23 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
bennymacca wrote:good news

Even better news:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-20/a ... st/6635264

:roll:

Nah piss off FFS, Nevill had a really good debut and look alot more comfortable and settled with the bat in his first test match than Haddin has for the past year and there is nothing wrong with his glovework. You can't drop him!!
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Q. » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:08 pm

FFS
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby am Bays » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:38 pm

Nah I think Haddin was better with his glove work over the stumps (bottom edge catch of Broad and the one where Cook smashed it off Lyon were sensational catches) and Haddin's footwork to the quicks is much better.

Neville footwork to the quicks has me worried. IMO he's too quick to open his outside leg and turn with the ball. This means he often takes balls outside the line of his body with his chest facing cover/point or midwicket/square leg rather than in front of his body or on the inside. This restricts the amount of coverage he can make to edges or wide balls. This in turn means 1st slip has to be finer and the coverage of the slips corden is reduced. it hought there were one or two balls down legside he could have got with better footwork. Some balls though even if he was Inspector Gadget he was no chance!!!

Thought his hands were good but apart from one howler where Haddin misjudged the ball I thought he was better with the gloves.

I would go with Haddin provided he is totally over his personal issues as I think that played a role in his error at cardiff where he apperared to be picking the ball up late and moving late. By not having a clear focus on his cricket this compromised his ability to focus on the ball. if he is good to go mentally Haddin plays for mine but if he isn't right it's good to know we have Neville in cover even though I think Hartely and Whiteman are better with the gloves than him (what's that about the Green Baggy being kept in reserve when you get a Blue one.... ;) )
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Jim05 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:39 pm

Unfortunately Haddin will come back in.
Nevill did a pretty good job on debut, made a couple of little blunders in the 2nd innings but provided plenty of energy and generally kept very well. Looked real solid with the bat also, should get another chance soon
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:45 pm

On top of Haddin's poor keeping lately these are his past 20 knocks.
1,9,3,0,22,13,10,14,0,1,6,13,55,31,9,8,22, 22. 7.

Ave: 12.3
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:51 pm

He's a walking wicket.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:58 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:He's a walking wicket.

Without the 55 it's a 10 average.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby heater31 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:31 pm

Think it is time to pull the trigger with Haddin, he cost us dearly in Cardiff then circumstances conspired against him to allow a replacement. The replacement did very well.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:40 pm

heater31 wrote:Think it is time to pull the trigger with Haddin, he cost us dearly in Cardiff then circumstances conspired against him to allow a replacement. The replacement did very well.

Exactly.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:42 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:On top of Haddin's poor keeping lately these are his past 20 knocks.
1,9,3,0,22,13,10,14,0,1,6,13,55,31,9,8,22, 22. 7.

Ave: 12.3

Thanks for posting that LM. No one should be getting a game based on that form line!!
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