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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Corona Man » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:52 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
heater31 wrote:3 Days of showers leading up to the next Test Match but fine for Day 1.

Surely not for the players.

You mean the pommie players right?!?
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:38 am

Corona Man wrote:
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heater31 wrote:3 Days of showers leading up to the next Test Match but fine for Day 1.

Surely not for the players.

You mean the pommie players right?!?

Yeah.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:19 am

GWW wrote:Some good batting practice overnight with 400 in a day against Derby.

Warner 101 retired
S. Marsh 101 retired
Clarke 16
Voges 1
M.Marsh 53
Nevill 1
Watson 61
Haddin 32
Siddle 2
Cummins 21 not out
Ahmed 4 not out

Extras 20
Total 9/413 off 90 overs
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby RB » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:34 am

Voges had better start making runs.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:37 am

RB wrote:Voges had better start making runs.

Yes, his spot might be on the line. If Rogers is good to go in the second test then S.Marsh might replace Voges at number 5.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Corona Man » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:41 am

The Dark Knight wrote:
RB wrote:Voges had better start making runs.

Yes, his spot might be on the line. If Rogers is good to go in the second test then S.Marsh might replace Voges at number 5.


Given the amount of "opportunities" some blokes are given.... S. Watson for example, I hope the selectors give Voges a few more games yet before discarding him.... he was our best batter in the West Indies not that long ago!
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:45 am

Corona Man wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
RB wrote:Voges had better start making runs.

Yes, his spot might be on the line. If Rogers is good to go in the second test then S.Marsh might replace Voges at number 5.

Given the amount of "opportunities" some blokes are given.... S. Watson for example, I hope the selectors give Voges a few more games yet before discarding him.... he was our best batter in the West Indies not that long ago!

Yes that's true, Shane Watson has been given a golden ticket like no other so in that regard Voges deserves a few more matches. The skipper is scratching for runs aswell so the limelight isn't entirely on Voges.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:00 pm

Sometimes it's harder to get out of the Aussie team than into it.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:40 pm

Clarke out, Lanning in.

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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:46 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Clarke out, Lanning in.

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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby RB » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:53 pm

Corona Man wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
RB wrote:Voges had better start making runs.

Yes, his spot might be on the line. If Rogers is good to go in the second test then S.Marsh might replace Voges at number 5.


Given the amount of "opportunities" some blokes are given.... S. Watson for example, I hope the selectors give Voges a few more games yet before discarding him.... he was our best batter in the West Indies not that long ago!

His scores are:

130* & DNB v WI
37 & DNB v WI
31 & 1 v Eng.
25 & DNB v Eng.

Maybe he was our best bat v the WI but really he has only made one score. Few would rate the WI attack he faced all that highly.

Having said that, I would never question the selection of a player who knocks the door down by making runs in the Shield, given how plenty of spuds who've done nothing at Shield level have been picked in recent years.

Ed Cowan is an example of a player who had a couple of massive seasons in the Shield, but never really got going at international level. I was glad that he was picked initially because I believe in rewarding good Shield performances, but eventually he had to go, and Voges will be in the same boat if he doesn't start making runs, particularly given that he's 35. He should probably get another couple of games (especially if Australia keep winning). Hopefully he does get some runs because God knows S. Marsh will spud it up if picked.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Corona Man » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:58 pm

RB wrote:
Corona Man wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
RB wrote:Voges had better start making runs.

Yes, his spot might be on the line. If Rogers is good to go in the second test then S.Marsh might replace Voges at number 5.


Given the amount of "opportunities" some blokes are given.... S. Watson for example, I hope the selectors give Voges a few more games yet before discarding him.... he was our best batter in the West Indies not that long ago!

His scores are:

130* & DNB v WI
37 & DNB v WI
31 & 1 v Eng.
25 & DNB v Eng.

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That's an averages of 56.... I would take that every day of the week.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:58 pm

RB wrote:
Corona Man wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
RB wrote:Voges had better start making runs.

Yes, his spot might be on the line. If Rogers is good to go in the second test then S.Marsh might replace Voges at number 5.


Given the amount of "opportunities" some blokes are given.... S. Watson for example, I hope the selectors give Voges a few more games yet before discarding him.... he was our best batter in the West Indies not that long ago!

His scores are:

130* & DNB v WI
37 & DNB v WI
31 & 1 v Eng.
25 & DNB v Eng.

Maybe he was our best bat v the WI but really he has only made one score. Few would rate the WI attack he faced all that highly.

Having said that, I would never question the selection of a player who knocks the door down by making runs in the Shield, given how plenty of spuds who've done nothing at Shield level have been picked in recent years.

Ed Cowan is an example of a player who had a couple of massive seasons in the Shield, but never really got going at international level. I was glad that he was picked initially because I believe in rewarding good Shield performances, but eventually he had to go, and Voges will be in the same boat if he doesn't start making runs, particularly given that he's 35. He should probably get another couple of games (especially if Australia keep winning). Hopefully he does get some runs because God knows S. Marsh will spud it up if picked.

Without checking, Pup's been on a lean spell I think.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:59 pm

Corona Man wrote:His scores are:

130* & DNB v WI
37 & DNB v WI
31 & 1 v Eng.
25 & DNB v Eng.

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That's an averages of 56.... I would take that every day of the week.

Take out the 130* and it's pretty poo, to his credit though. he made that when everyone else spudded up.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Corona Man » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:01 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Corona Man wrote:His scores are:

130* & DNB v WI
37 & DNB v WI
31 & 1 v Eng.
25 & DNB v Eng.

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That's an averages of 56.... I would take that every day of the week.

Take out the 130* and it's pretty poo, to his credit though. he made that when everyone else spudded up.


Well, yeah it would be, but you can't re-write history, it happened....
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:05 pm

Corona Man wrote:
Well, yeah it would be, but you can't re-write history, it happened....

For sure, I'd like to see him get some runs under the belt again soon though, if not for the team for his own confidence.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby MJ_23 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:14 pm

Voges will be under pressure, thats the reality of being a new comer to test cricket and realistically so it should be. Will get a couple more test matches but needs a score.

Clarke is having a lean run. He has only made over 50 twice in the last 26 innings and they were both centuries (161* against the Proteas in March last year and 128 against India in Adelaide in December)

26 innings for 674 runs at an average of 32.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby MJ_23 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:24 pm

Interestingly enough Shane Watson over the same time period (5th March 2013)

Has batted 22 times for 705 runs with only 1 not out at an average of 33.57 and has 5 scores over 50
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:25 pm

MJ_23 wrote:Interestingly enough Shane Watson over the same time period (5th March 2013)

Has batted 22 times for 705 runs with only 1 not out at an average of 33.57 and has 5 scores over 50


The difference is that is about all Watson is capable of.
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Re: 2015 Ashes

Postby Corona Man » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:30 pm

bennymacca wrote:
MJ_23 wrote:Interestingly enough Shane Watson over the same time period (5th March 2013)

Has batted 22 times for 705 runs with only 1 not out at an average of 33.57 and has 5 scores over 50


The difference is that is about all Watson is capable of.


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