Port Adelaide 2017

[MW]

Again, all our issues come back to our disposal. Our structure and the way we play is fine (missed Sat due to local footy), but again our skills let us down. From what i have been told from someone that is heavily involved in the club and always says it how it is, it was the same again on Saturday

All of this is fine but it's ignoring one pretty important factor, we're not as good as we want to be right now and there's always an opponent out there trying to do the same thing as us.

You're describing just about every side bar Carlton and Brisbane this year.
Get it right at the pointy end, and the flag is yours.

[Trader]

But I didn't see the game, but to be honest I don't really care who it is. We need another tall and/or bigger bodied forward in the Power side so Trengove can go back to his primary role. Pick whatever player fits the role who is in the best form out of:

Eddy
Marshall
Howard
Frampton

It also means we can drop Austin, who was absolutely awful, and put an experienced defender in his place. All the forward needs to do is equal what Trengove has been providing and no-one will convince me that anyone on that list above would do a worse job up forward.

Your argument for Trengove to go back and the impact that has on our structure has been stated a few times now.
Have you considered arguments as to why he needs to be up forward?

eg: As the 2nd ruck, they don't want to have to shuffle the backs each time Ryder needs a rest. Playing Trengove up forward gives us that flexibility to push him into the ruck and ryder can go to the bench or rest forward.

I'm sure there are other arguments for it as well.

[morell]

Disposal comes back to confidence. Confidence comes from knowing what to do and where to go instinctively. That comes from repetition within a framework.

That framework is a sound structure!

At the moment, we don't have that, we struggle with ball transition (against good opponents) because our players are often out of position or lack the physical attributes to compete.

The old kick long to 1v2 with Neade / Impey / Gray x2 pattern we've seen time and time again.

[morell]

But I didn't see the game, but to be honest I don't really care who it is. We need another tall and/or bigger bodied forward in the Power side so Trengove can go back to his primary role. Pick whatever player fits the role who is in the best form out of:

Eddy
Marshall
Howard
Frampton

It also means we can drop Austin, who was absolutely awful, and put an experienced defender in his place. All the forward needs to do is equal what Trengove has been providing and no-one will convince me that anyone on that list above would do a worse job up forward.

Your argument for Trengove to go back and the impact that has on our structure has been stated a few times now.
Have you considered arguments as to why he needs to be up forward?

eg: As the 2nd ruck, they don't want to have to shuffle the backs each time Ryder needs a rest. Playing Trengove up forward gives us that flexibility to push him into the ruck and ryder can go to the bench or rest forward.

I'm sure there are other arguments for it as well.

I would use Westhoff in that role - second ruck floating forward. He's not a wing man either.

To me that's another case of playing players out of position that would be corrected with a couple of minor tweaks to our spine.

[bertiebeatle]

But I didn't see the game, but to be honest I don't really care who it is. We need another tall and/or bigger bodied forward in the Power side so Trengove can go back to his primary role. Pick whatever player fits the role who is in the best form out of:

Eddy
Marshall
Howard
Frampton

It also means we can drop Austin, who was absolutely awful, and put an experienced defender in his place. All the forward needs to do is equal what Trengove has been providing and no-one will convince me that anyone on that list above would do a worse job up forward.

Your argument for Trengove to go back and the impact that has on our structure has been stated a few times now.
Have you considered arguments as to why he needs to be up forward?

eg: As the 2nd ruck, they don't want to have to shuffle the backs each time Ryder needs a rest. Playing Trengove up forward gives us that flexibility to push him into the ruck and ryder can go to the bench or rest forward.

I'm sure there are other arguments for it as well.

Have just been thinking the exact same thing the last couple of days re Trengove & the use of the 2nd Ruck. Don't really want Dixon to be playing as our key forward and then have to worry about being the 2nd ruck

[Booney]

Your argument for Trengove to go back and the impact that has on our structure has been stated a few times now.
Have you considered arguments as to why he needs to be up forward?

eg: As the 2nd ruck, they don't want to have to shuffle the backs each time Ryder needs a rest. Playing Trengove up forward gives us that flexibility to push him into the ruck and ryder can go to the bench or rest forward.

I'm sure there are other arguments for it as well.

Didn't consider that and you're absolutely right.

[Booney]

But I didn't see the game, but to be honest I don't really care who it is. We need another tall and/or bigger bodied forward in the Power side so Trengove can go back to his primary role. Pick whatever player fits the role who is in the best form out of:

Eddy
Marshall
Howard
Frampton

It also means we can drop Austin, who was absolutely awful, and put an experienced defender in his place. All the forward needs to do is equal what Trengove has been providing and no-one will convince me that anyone on that list above would do a worse job up forward.

Your argument for Trengove to go back and the impact that has on our structure has been stated a few times now.
Have you considered arguments as to why he needs to be up forward?

eg: As the 2nd ruck, they don't want to have to shuffle the backs each time Ryder needs a rest. Playing Trengove up forward gives us that flexibility to push him into the ruck and ryder can go to the bench or rest forward.

I'm sure there are other arguments for it as well.

I would use Westhoff in that role - second ruck floating forward. He's not a wing man either.

To me that's another case of playing players out of position that would be corrected with a couple of minor tweaks to our spine.

I can't agree with that, Westhoff has never, ever played a role of significance in the ruck, not even for 5 minutes.

[amber_fluid]

Other than showdowns when has Westhoff ever played a GAME of significance?

[Lightning McQueen]

Other than showdowns when has Westhoff ever played a GAME of significance?

He had a spate a few years ago where he tore it up for a few successive weeks.

[Booney]

Other than showdowns when has Westhoff ever played a GAME of significance?

He's been solid this year, in fact I'd say one of his more consistent years.

Across 220 games he's averaged 15.7 touches, 5.7 marks, 1.2 goals, 1.95 hitouts and 2.6 tackles.

This year he's - 20.2 / 5.9 / 0.7 / 0.82 / 3.05 - suggesting he's playing higher up the ground and winning more ball.

[amber_fluid]

Other than showdowns when has Westhoff ever played a GAME of significance?

He's been solid this year, in fact I'd say one of his more consistent years.

Across 220 games he's averaged 15.7 touches, 5.7 marks, 1.2 goals, 1.95 hitouts and 2.6 tackles.

This year he's - 20.2 / 5.9 / 0.7 / 0.82 / 3.05 - suggesting he's playing higher up the ground and winning more ball.

He's taken 200 games to get there but he is definitely a lot more consistent this year.
Whilst I was taking the p*ss with my initial comment , I do think he is a key if you're to play any further than the 1st week of finals.

[morell]

But I didn't see the game, but to be honest I don't really care who it is. We need another tall and/or bigger bodied forward in the Power side so Trengove can go back to his primary role. Pick whatever player fits the role who is in the best form out of:

Eddy
Marshall
Howard
Frampton

It also means we can drop Austin, who was absolutely awful, and put an experienced defender in his place. All the forward needs to do is equal what Trengove has been providing and no-one will convince me that anyone on that list above would do a worse job up forward.

Your argument for Trengove to go back and the impact that has on our structure has been stated a few times now.
Have you considered arguments as to why he needs to be up forward?

eg: As the 2nd ruck, they don't want to have to shuffle the backs each time Ryder needs a rest. Playing Trengove up forward gives us that flexibility to push him into the ruck and ryder can go to the bench or rest forward.

I'm sure there are other arguments for it as well.

I would use Westhoff in that role - second ruck floating forward. He's not a wing man either.

To me that's another case of playing players out of position that would be corrected with a couple of minor tweaks to our spine.

I can't agree with that, Westhoff has never, ever played a role of significance in the ruck, not even for 5 minutes.

Other than the one Freo game where he jumped over a knackered Sandilands in 2014, has Trengove?

... and pending match ups, I am sure we can continue to use Trengove in the ruck from defense if we really have to.

The benefits we get from fixing up our spine far outweigh the potential loss of Trengove vs Westhoff as back up ruckman for 5 minutes

[Booney]

Other than showdowns when has Westhoff ever played a GAME of significance?

He's been solid this year, in fact I'd say one of his more consistent years.

Across 220 games he's averaged 15.7 touches, 5.7 marks, 1.2 goals, 1.95 hitouts and 2.6 tackles.

This year he's - 20.2 / 5.9 / 0.7 / 0.82 / 3.05 - suggesting he's playing higher up the ground and winning more ball.

He's taken 200 games to get there but he is definitely a lot more consistent this year.
Whilst I was taking the p*ss with my initial comment , I do think he is a key if you're to play any further than the 1st week of finals.

No need to clarify.

[amber_fluid]

Whilst it's no secret, here is the game plan to beat Port.

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[Booney]

Whilst it's no secret, here is the game plan to beat Port.

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You're a shit troll, you barrack for Carlton, jog on.

[amber_fluid]

Whilst it's no secret, here is the game plan to beat Port.

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You're a shit troll, you barrack for Carlton, jog on.

How is that a troll?
It's common knowledge isn't it?

Cheer up you'll beat St Kilda this week at home and be world beaters again for a week.

[morell]

He's not trolling he's right. Shamelessly stolen from another forum, thanks PortWTF...

Current finals position ladder (versus top 8 )

W L D F Ag F(Avg) Ag(Avg) Pt Pct
Adelaide 6 2 0 887 669 111 84 24 132.59
GWS 4 3 1 699 695 87 87 18 100.58
Sydney 4 2 0 492 504 82 84 16 97.62
Richmond 4 3 0 519 547 74 78 16 94.88
Geelong 3 2 1 534 519 89 87 14 102.89
Hawthorn 3 5 1 728 894 81 99 14 81.43
Melbourne 3 4 0 599 620 86 89 12 96.61
West Coast 3 5 0 674 740 84 93 12 91.08
Carlton 3 6 0 642 808 71 90 12 79.46
Fremantle 3 4 0 538 730 77 104 12 73.70
Essendon 2 5 0 655 703 94 100 8 93.17
Collingwood 2 6 0 690 772 86 97 8 89.38
North Melbourne 2 6 0 733 877 92 110 8 83.58
St Kilda 2 6 0 662 850 83 106 8 77.88
Bulldogs 2 5 0 487 646 70 92 8 75.39
Port Adelaide 1 6 0 542 670 77 96 4 80.90
Brisbane 1 9 0 775 1279 78 128 4 60.59
Gold Coast 1 5 0 444 762 74 127 4 58.27

[amber_fluid]

He's not trolling he's right. Shamelessly stolen from another forum, thanks PortWTF...

Current finals position ladder (versus top 8 )

W L D F Ag F(Avg) Ag(Avg) Pt Pct
Adelaide 6 2 0 887 669 111 84 24 132.59
GWS 4 3 1 699 695 87 87 18 100.58
Sydney 4 2 0 492 504 82 84 16 97.62
Richmond 4 3 0 519 547 74 78 16 94.88
Geelong 3 2 1 534 519 89 87 14 102.89
Hawthorn 3 5 1 728 894 81 99 14 81.43
Melbourne 3 4 0 599 620 86 89 12 96.61
West Coast 3 5 0 674 740 84 93 12 91.08
Carlton 3 6 0 642 808 71 90 12 79.46
Fremantle 3 4 0 538 730 77 104 12 73.70
Essendon 2 5 0 655 703 94 100 8 93.17
Collingwood 2 6 0 690 772 86 97 8 89.38
North Melbourne 2 6 0 733 877 92 110 8 83.58
St Kilda 2 6 0 662 850 83 106 8 77.88
Bulldogs 2 5 0 487 646 70 92 8 75.39
Port Adelaide 1 6 0 542 670 77 96 4 80.90
Brisbane 1 9 0 775 1279 78 128 4 60.59
Gold Coast 1 5 0 444 762 74 127 4 58.27

Mate I borrowed it from Facebook

[daysofourlives]

He's not trolling he's right. Shamelessly stolen from another forum, thanks PortWTF...

Current finals position ladder (versus top 8 )

W L D F Ag F(Avg) Ag(Avg) Pt Pct
Adelaide 6 2 0 887 669 111 84 24 132.59
GWS 4 3 1 699 695 87 87 18 100.58
Sydney 4 2 0 492 504 82 84 16 97.62
Richmond 4 3 0 519 547 74 78 16 94.88
Geelong 3 2 1 534 519 89 87 14 102.89
Hawthorn 3 5 1 728 894 81 99 14 81.43
Melbourne 3 4 0 599 620 86 89 12 96.61
West Coast 3 5 0 674 740 84 93 12 91.08
Carlton 3 6 0 642 808 71 90 12 79.46
Fremantle 3 4 0 538 730 77 104 12 73.70
Essendon 2 5 0 655 703 94 100 8 93.17
Collingwood 2 6 0 690 772 86 97 8 89.38
North Melbourne 2 6 0 733 877 92 110 8 83.58
St Kilda 2 6 0 662 850 83 106 8 77.88
Bulldogs 2 5 0 487 646 70 92 8 75.39
Port Adelaide 1 6 0 542 670 77 96 4 80.90
Brisbane 1 9 0 775 1279 78 128 4 60.59
Gold Coast 1 5 0 444 762 74 127 4 58.27

Geez Brisbane, Carlton and Hawthorn havent been done any favours at this point, most games against top 8 sides

[morell]

He's not trolling he's right. Shamelessly stolen from another forum, thanks PortWTF...

Current finals position ladder (versus top 8 )

W L D F Ag F(Avg) Ag(Avg) Pt Pct
Adelaide 6 2 0 887 669 111 84 24 132.59
GWS 4 3 1 699 695 87 87 18 100.58
Sydney 4 2 0 492 504 82 84 16 97.62
Richmond 4 3 0 519 547 74 78 16 94.88
Geelong 3 2 1 534 519 89 87 14 102.89
Hawthorn 3 5 1 728 894 81 99 14 81.43
Melbourne 3 4 0 599 620 86 89 12 96.61
West Coast 3 5 0 674 740 84 93 12 91.08
Carlton 3 6 0 642 808 71 90 12 79.46
Fremantle 3 4 0 538 730 77 104 12 73.70
Essendon 2 5 0 655 703 94 100 8 93.17
Collingwood 2 6 0 690 772 86 97 8 89.38
North Melbourne 2 6 0 733 877 92 110 8 83.58
St Kilda 2 6 0 662 850 83 106 8 77.88
Bulldogs 2 5 0 487 646 70 92 8 75.39
Port Adelaide 1 6 0 542 670 77 96 4 80.90
Brisbane 1 9 0 775 1279 78 128 4 60.59
Gold Coast 1 5 0 444 762 74 127 4 58.27

Geez Brisbane, Carlton and Hawthorn havent been done any favours at this point, most games against top 8 sides

Geelong and Sydney on 6 stick out to me.

Geelong have had the most kissed on the dick season in living memory.