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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby Corona Man » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:15 pm

Just watching the replay again now. It will be interesting to see what the fallout of this result will be for the Crows. If they are fair dinkum there has to be one. There is a good number of their regulars who I don't see as having the ability (when it really comes down to it) to take them to the title. Ottens, Douglas, McKay, Seedsman, Jenkins.... I can go on. Easier to give a nod to their better players. Sloane, Jacobs, M. Crouch, Talia, Laird are all genuine. Then there's those that fall in the middle. Talking to a bloke today who made the observation, the crows play "perfect footy", in that when it gets a bit scrappy they don't cope. Big finals, pressure, away from AO...they were unable to "find a way". If Cameron wants to go, let him. Has pace, but not a lot of poise. Gibbs will help, but is that enough?
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby MW » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:50 pm

Ottens and seed shouldn't be in our first 22 but understand where your coming from
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby Wedgie » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:03 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Geezus, quietest day ever at Adelaide Oval today. I literally sold one beer.

Are the players there yet?

Dunno, I left at 3.30, luckily as I was one of the first on I could leave as the Adelaide Oval majorly overstaffed for it.
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby Jim05 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:07 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Geezus, quietest day ever at Adelaide Oval today. I literally sold one beer.

Are the players there yet?

Dunno, I left at 3.30, luckily as I was one of the first on I could leave as the Adelaide Oval majorly overstaffed for it.

Due to Virgin flight issues, the players and thousands of supporters were stuck at Melbourne airport. Players were due at AO at approximately 4:00pm
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby Grenville » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:12 pm

Jim05 wrote:Premiership Droughts
Melbourne: 53 years (1964)
St Kilda: 51 years (1966)
Carlton: 22 years (1995)
Fremantle : 22 years (1995)
Adelaide: 19 years (1998)


I couldn't help myself this morning, put a tenner on the Demons at $17, the Demons at $17 into Petracca @ $101 to win the Brownlow, St Kilda @ $26 and St Kilda into Seb Ross to win the Brownlow @ $51.
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby mighty hounds » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:55 pm

Corona Man wrote:Just watching the replay again now. It will be interesting to see what the fallout of this result will be for the Crows. If they are fair dinkum there has to be one. There is a good number of their regulars who I don't see as having the ability (when it really comes down to it) to take them to the title. Ottens, Douglas, McKay, Seedsman, Jenkins.... I can go on. Easier to give a nod to their better players. Sloane, Jacobs, M. Crouch, Talia, Laird are all genuine. Then there's those that fall in the middle. Talking to a bloke today who made the observation, the crows play "perfect footy", in that when it gets a bit scrappy they don't cope. Big finals, pressure, away from AO...they were unable to "find a way". If Cameron wants to go, let him. Has pace, but not a lot of poise. Gibbs will help, but is that enough?



I actually don't know how it's different to being at home, does crowd make that big of a factor? Don't know. If it's mental then we need a coach installing a Malcolm Blight like phrase. As I believe he was great at telling players that the MCG is just like home because it has grass and goalposts :lol:
I would like Gibbs as I think it'll add something to our midfield. He should have been a crow to start with but that's another story. We need ruck cover and another intercept defender to cover Lever. I actually liked Hampton before he was injured and believe he would have been in the team had he not been injured. I just don't want to see us do nothing in the off season. I reckon this is an important trade period
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby gadj1976 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:51 pm

Jim05 wrote:Premiership Droughts
Melbourne: 53 years (1964)
St Kilda: 51 years (1966)
Carlton: 22 years (1995)
Fremantle : 22 years (1995)
Adelaide: 19 years (1998)


How sad. Our great club has been terrible for many many years. Not only are we 22 years into a drought, we're about 18 years since even being close. At least Melbourne, St Kilda, Freo and Adelaide can say they've made it more recently.
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby gadj1976 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:55 pm

whufc wrote:Where do the Crows drop to in the premiership drought ladder!!!

Only St.Kilda, Carlton, Melbourne, Fremantle to go off the established clubs hey


there are unestablished clubs?

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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby gadj1976 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:58 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:
jackpot jim wrote:Has there ever been such a shit, uninspiring, one sided Finals series such as this one? Apart from the Port v West Coast game which was shit as well, was just the closeness of the scores that made it interesting, all the games were over by early in the 3rd quarter if not at qtr time.

Amazing how on the back of just 1 loss after being the best team all year that Crows supporters are bagging so many of their players for not being up to it and need to get rid of half the team. :roll:


Great post. The finals series was the most boring one ever. Not one decent game to watch.

The whole season was like this imo, mainly due to the middle tier sides (stk ess melb wce port footscray) who played well one week but were mediocre the next and very few epic, desperate games among them as though they didn't really care about the opportunity to finish top 4 when the opening was there, the wce/melb game excepted.

I wanted Adelaide to win because i thought they were the only decent side and Richmond just the best of the bad bunch referred to, but i was wrong and hats off to Richmond, can't do any more than comprehensively beat the three sides in front of you.


Really, I thought it was the most even for many years. Any team could beat any on any given day. Were those teams any good, no, I don't think so but it gave us nuffies something to cheer about on days when you'd consider slashing your wrists in a warm bath as a positive alternative.
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby FlyingHigh » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:21 pm

Uninspiring was probably the key word from jj's original post.
If these teams were playing great close games between themselves and really pushing the top teams then it would have been a great year but there weren't many games like this and it was only close because all those teams were ordinary on many occasions.
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby gadj1976 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:23 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:Uninspiring was probably the key word from jj's original post.
If these teams were playing great close games between themselves and really pushing the top teams then it would have been a great year but there weren't many games like this and it was only close because all those teams were ordinary on many occasions.


I agree, FH. Last year we were spoilt and it set the scene for the week off before the finals being the key for a great finals series. It wasn't but it won't change the AFL's stance of course cos they don't like admitting to errors.
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby FlyingHigh » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:28 pm

Did have a little chuckle at the last line of your previous post :lol:
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby valleys07 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:46 pm

Jack Graham.

More finals wins than H&A wins, and more premierships than losses.

How good haha
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby Wedgie » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:44 am

valleys07 wrote:Jack Graham.

More finals wins than H&A wins, and more premierships than losses.

How good haha

One of two North Adelaide lads in the premiership side and none in Adelaides side.
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby Booney » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:58 am

Morning all.

Great day.
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby JK » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:28 pm

Haven't seen Tex' post GF speech, only read what he had to say. Seems like he's copping a fair bit of stick for it, but from what I read I didn't really see a problem. You'd be gutted about your team and own performance, and it's really all about the winners so say your bit and get off the mic asap. Guessing it didn't come across that way though?
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby whufc » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:33 pm

JK wrote:Haven't seen Tex' post GF speech, only read what he had to say. Seems like he's copping a fair bit of stick for it, but from what I read I didn't really see a problem. You'd be gutted about your team and own performance, and it's really all about the winners so say your bit and get off the mic asap. Guessing it didn't come across that way though?


It was a rubbish salty salty salty speech. Probably the most sour losing captain speech I've ever heard.

But I tend to agree, do we really need to hear from the losing captain, that point in time is all about the winners
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby JK » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:35 pm

Hopefully he went next door and gave them the praise they deserve, think that's probably more important
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby Corona Man » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:36 pm

JK wrote:Haven't seen Tex' post GF speech, only read what he had to say. Seems like he's copping a fair bit of stick for it, but from what I read I didn't really see a problem. You'd be gutted about your team and own performance, and it's really all about the winners so say your bit and get off the mic asap. Guessing it didn't come across that way though?

I thought he said all that was needed to be said, certainly nothing more. Which is probably fair enough.
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Re: 2017 Grand Final : Adelaide v Richmond

Postby am Bays » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:39 pm

JK wrote:Haven't seen Tex' post GF speech, only read what he had to say. Seems like he's copping a fair bit of stick for it, but from what I read I didn't really see a problem. You'd be gutted about your team and own performance, and it's really all about the winners so say your bit and get off the mic asap. Guessing it didn't come across that way though?


When giving a speech you need to remember the three "G"s of speechmaking, Be: Gracious, Greatful, Get off

he was Gracious to Richmond,
he was greatful to the sponsors, AFL and the fans
he Got off, within 30 s

Perfect speech in many ways
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