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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:45 pm

Brodlach wrote:Truly is the silly season

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Was the Oliver leaving Melbourne rumour was first circulated by Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge on trade radio?
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:46 pm

Brodlach wrote::shock: :shock: Aaron Naughton has signed a new eight-year extension. Locked in until 2032
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:05 pm

Wedgie wrote:Is this the silliest silly season yet?

Hasn’t even really started yet
July 11th 2012....
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:06 pm

@TDK, I think Jordan Lewis was the first to rumour it
July 11th 2012....
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:26 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
Brodlach wrote::shock: :shock: Aaron Naughton has signed a new eight-year extension. Locked in until 2032
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Cornes really is a flog isn't he?
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 04, 2023 9:53 pm

Yes, but he makes a good point
July 11th 2012....
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby tigerpie » Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:35 pm

Brodlach wrote:@TDK, I think Jordan Lewis was the first to rumour it

Hahaha, the same bloke that didn't have Collingwood in the 8 this year.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:38 am

Oliver makes any sides best 22 without question. Sides outside the 8 this year, like Adelaide, he instantly makes better so there's little doubt every club would be exploring their available resources to see if they could get him in.

We all know though that the success rate of ultra long term deals isn't all that great, in fact his 7 year deal hasn't even started yet!

Any club would have to do more than just due diligence before they take him on, it would have to be a forensic investigation, let's call it a comprehensive search.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:35 am

Booney wrote:Oliver makes any sides best 22 without question. Sides outside the 8 this year, like Adelaide, he instantly makes better so there's little doubt every club would be exploring their available resources to see if they could get him in.

We all know though that the success rate of ultra long term deals isn't all that great, in fact his 7 year deal hasn't even started yet!

Any club would have to do more than just due diligence before they take him on, it would have to be a forensic investigation, let's call it a comprehensive search.


I was worried for a minute you were going to say exhaustive search and he'd end up Arden St.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:45 am

Some level of search is probably better than just sticking with the same thing that doesn't work.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby whufc » Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:24 am

If there was any truth to the Oliver at the Crows rumors what would get it done.

Rachele and a first rounder.....would they need to throw in a future first rounder as well?

What's the going rate for an established guns with a couple of small question marks.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:46 am

Pick 9 this year, McAdam and next year first rounder.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby whufc » Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:53 am

Booney wrote:Pick 9 this year, McAdam and next year first rounder.


Probably not far of the mark.

I think Melbourne would initially aim for a B+ / A Grader given they would consider themselves in a premiership window but the end result would be something pretty close to what you have suggested.

Given the length of Olivers contract that probably puts Melbourne in a strong position of power. Not like he is going to sit out the game for that length of time if Melbourne don't trade him.

Probably no truth to the trade but its fun watching my socials blow up with excited Crows fans.....it will keep the next few weeks interesting anyway.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Brodlach » Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:00 am

I have tempered my expectations as I know it won’t happen
July 11th 2012....
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:12 am

I think it's a rocket up him from the club. You're about to kick of 7 years on big coin, lift your game. It's up to him if he takes that on board or cracks the sooks.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby cracka » Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:14 am

whufc wrote:
Booney wrote:Pick 9 this year, McAdam and next year first rounder.


Probably not far of the mark.

I think Melbourne would initially aim for a B+ / A Grader given they would consider themselves in a premiership window but the end result would be something pretty close to what you have suggested.

Given the length of Olivers contract that probably puts Melbourne in a strong position of power. Not like he is going to sit out the game for that length of time if Melbourne don't trade him.


Probably no truth to the trade but its fun watching my socials blow up with excited Crows fans.....it will keep the next few weeks interesting anyway.

Wouldn't that be detrimental to their bargaining position given what they're going through with Grundy
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:14 am

Ha!

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/10/04/ ... on-oliver/

Melbourne has hit Clayton Oliver with an ultimatum – shape up or ship off.

Fed-up Demons officials have told their troubled midfielder that they need a commitment from him that he will once again conform to the standards and expectations the club demands.

They have made a series of demands to Oliver that include the need to treat club staff with respect, teammates with respect, prepare the way he should and to turn up to training in the proper condition.

It can be revealed that Melbourne’s reluctance to squash the frenzied trade talk surrounding the 26-year-old is exclusively due to its exasperation with Oliver’s increasingly erratic behaviour.

Oliver is said to have lost his way at times during a campaign interrupted by injury, but his behaviour since the Dees’ straight-sets finals demise has concerned many at club headquarters.

Sources with an intimate knowledge of the rocky Oliver-Demons relationship described this as football’s version of an intervention rather than a push to the exit door.

Equally, Oliver had made clear his dissatisfaction with his club to various sections of the AFL industry.

It’s this ill-will that that has seen rival clubs smell blood in the water and some even confident of pulling off an enormous trade coup.

In recent days, however, Oliver has shown a willingness to return to the fold. He has put his hand up to say that his living arrangements and social lifestyle hasn’t been befitting of an AFL player.

Max Gawn has also opened the door of his home to Oliver, who has recently moved in with the captain and his family.

Insiders said Melbourne was making no apologies for setting the standards they believe are critical to success in professional sport.

Demons officials have been eager to support, nurture and even protect Oliver as he navigated some challenges this year and in many cases they have done so on external advice.

But Oliver’s downward spiral has forced the club to take a harder stance and it’s that stance that has set the trade period alight.

It’s a stance that rekindles memories of Dustin Martin touring the GWS facilities in 2013, Steve Johnson doing the same at Collingwood in 2006 and even Jordan De Goey last year coming close to joining St Kilda.

Melbourne categorically do not want to trade Oliver, a four-time best and fairest winner and a triple All-Australian with a lucrative seven-year contract in place, unless he makes it impossible to be retained.

Oliver has not told Melbourne he wants to be traded.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby Dutchy » Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:25 am

Good luck anyone taking on him for 7 years, big risk, if he cant conform at a club that has recently had success what will he do elsewhere?
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:44 am

The Ol’ fiery red head coming out in him.
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Re: 2023 Silly Season

Postby mots02 » Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:17 pm

Booney wrote:Ha!

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/10/04/ ... on-oliver/

Melbourne has hit Clayton Oliver with an ultimatum – shape up or ship off.

Fed-up Demons officials have told their troubled midfielder that they need a commitment from him that he will once again conform to the standards and expectations the club demands.

They have made a series of demands to Oliver that include the need to treat club staff with respect, teammates with respect, prepare the way he should and to turn up to training in the proper condition.

It can be revealed that Melbourne’s reluctance to squash the frenzied trade talk surrounding the 26-year-old is exclusively due to its exasperation with Oliver’s increasingly erratic behaviour.

Oliver is said to have lost his way at times during a campaign interrupted by injury, but his behaviour since the Dees’ straight-sets finals demise has concerned many at club headquarters.

Sources with an intimate knowledge of the rocky Oliver-Demons relationship described this as football’s version of an intervention rather than a push to the exit door.

Equally, Oliver had made clear his dissatisfaction with his club to various sections of the AFL industry.

It’s this ill-will that that has seen rival clubs smell blood in the water and some even confident of pulling off an enormous trade coup.

In recent days, however, Oliver has shown a willingness to return to the fold. He has put his hand up to say that his living arrangements and social lifestyle hasn’t been befitting of an AFL player.

Max Gawn has also opened the door of his home to Oliver, who has recently moved in with the captain and his family.

Insiders said Melbourne was making no apologies for setting the standards they believe are critical to success in professional sport.

Demons officials have been eager to support, nurture and even protect Oliver as he navigated some challenges this year and in many cases they have done so on external advice.

But Oliver’s downward spiral has forced the club to take a harder stance and it’s that stance that has set the trade period alight.

It’s a stance that rekindles memories of Dustin Martin touring the GWS facilities in 2013, Steve Johnson doing the same at Collingwood in 2006 and even Jordan De Goey last year coming close to joining St Kilda.

Melbourne categorically do not want to trade Oliver, a four-time best and fairest winner and a triple All-Australian with a lucrative seven-year contract in place, unless he makes it impossible to be retained.

Oliver has not told Melbourne he wants to be traded.


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