2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby SimonH » Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:15 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Sporting post mate. McGuiness will be a massive out that's for sure. He 'sounded' impassable in that last quarter. You are right about process though, I believe that Centrals and Port before us did the same thing. I believe Centrals and Port's was the 'Fos' model of hard down the guts, power at the body, power at the ball, the Norwood 'Bassett' model of course is all about making it bloody hard to score. Seems to work well in the SANFL but that system can be broken down by teams with exceptional talent (Geelong, Hawthorn) so it doesn't appear to be as effective in the AFL.

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The thing is that Port Adelaide in the final series, succeeded twice in winning the battle in their forward-lines... for two losses. Firstly, kicking more than 10 goals against Norwood's defence ain't easy; and they managed that twice. But more particularly:
• in the 2SF, they went inside 50 30 times for 19 scores; and
• in the GF, they went inside 50 30 times for 23 scores.

They are excellent inside 50: score ratios against any team, let alone one with a famously stingy defence. I'd guess that that grannie ratio of giving up a score 77% of the time that the opposition went inside 50, was well and truly Norwood's worst result all year. Once Port got the ball going through half-forward they were almost irresistible; but they managed that too rarely, getting smashed in the inside 50s in the grannie 51:30. So while Norwood's defence got beaten once Port were inside 50, Norwood's defenders still won them the game by pushing up and building the wall at wing and half-back so that Port couldn't get inside 50 enough.

When you look at the mature Pahhhhhr listed players who played yesterday who won't be there next year (Tom Logan is only the most obvious example of someone whose time is up; there will be a few others because AFL list management is a ruthless business) and that most of them are going to be replaced by 18 year old draftees who've never played at SANFL league standard before (unless Port are big participants in trade week and bring in a lot of mature talent), Port's 2nds side is unlikely to look so imposing next year.

So a team might well get around Norwood's structures next year. (For all we know, Norwood might regularly give up massive scores next year; remaking a defence without the best defender in the comp will be no easy task.) But it's not likely that that team will be Port.
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby The Ash Man » Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:44 pm

I don't remember the umps paying one holding the ball all day.
There were plenty of times they should have but I don't remember one.
I also don't remember much past 6pm
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Legs Man » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:02 pm

The umpiring did seem to go downhill a bit when the real pressure of the game came to light.
It wasn't too one sided - but it did become a situation of not wanting to determine the outcome - so don't pay HTB.
There were also some high tackles, high contact made and "holding" which went without the whistle being blown.
They do seem to change the way they umpire in this type of situation - but hey they are only human and wouldn't umpire in front of a 35k plus crowd every day.
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby wild dog » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:04 pm

Jim05 wrote:.....Probably lose another few to the AFL but got some good youth coming through and with no recruiting restrictions hopefully we can snare another couple of quality players and go for 4 in a row


OK hostilities to recommence. Wonder how you ended up without recruiting restrictions. How many tainted premierships in a row is this?
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Legs Man » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:10 pm

9 premierships vs 30 - sorry no argument - back to Doggy land.
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Jim05 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:31 pm

wild dog wrote:
Jim05 wrote:.....Probably lose another few to the AFL but got some good youth coming through and with no recruiting restrictions hopefully we can snare another couple of quality players and go for 4 in a row


OK hostilities to recommence. Wonder how you ended up without recruiting restrictions. How many tainted premierships in a row is this?

Recruiting restriction was up at end of this season anyway
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Jim05 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:33 pm

The Ash Man wrote:I don't remember the umps paying one holding the ball all day.
There were plenty of times they should have but I don't remember one.
I also don't remember much past 6pm

Paid a HTB with about 5 minutes gone in the last quarter against Norwood after not paying one all day. The blatant HTB on our forward 50 was missed followed by the plain to see blatant throw by Port.
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby wild dog » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:38 pm

Jim05 wrote:
wild dog wrote:
Jim05 wrote:.....Probably lose another few to the AFL but got some good youth coming through and with no recruiting restrictions hopefully we can snare another couple of quality players and go for 4 in a row


OK hostilities to recommence. Wonder how you ended up without recruiting restrictions. How many tainted premierships in a row is this?

Recruiting restriction was up at end of this season anyway


Ok so we will make it an even 3 :lol:
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby dedja » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:50 pm

heater31 wrote:
dedja wrote:But you've got Hitchy now Boon



Surely he is out of contract this year :shock:


Then he can head back to Brighton Road ;)


On the contrary, the perfect top up player for Port, will be just as handy as Butcher next year.
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Jim05 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:51 pm

wild dog wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
wild dog wrote:
Jim05 wrote:.....Probably lose another few to the AFL but got some good youth coming through and with no recruiting restrictions hopefully we can snare another couple of quality players and go for 4 in a row


OK hostilities to recommence. Wonder how you ended up without recruiting restrictions. How many tainted premierships in a row is this?

Recruiting restriction was up at end of this season anyway


Ok so we will make it an even 3 :lol:

So just a co-incidence that Centrals form has slipped since you ran out of brown paper bags? ;)
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby mal » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:11 pm

Terry Von Bertouch
He played a great deal of his career at North Adelaide
Played 2 seasons with Norwood in 1977-78
Premiership player in 1978

This is what the Norwood club is about , an abode for all past players
A guy spends a brief career at the club and some 36 years later attends the after match celebrations at the Parade
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Apachebulldog » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:21 pm

Legs Man wrote:9 premierships vs 30 - sorry no argument - back to Doggy land.




Tut Tut Legs Man do not become arrogant like SOME of the Power supporters please !!!

History lesson for ya know your foes history like i know yours.

NFC 1878 - 2014

CDFC first league season 1964 - 2014

NFC 86 year head start so more premierships of course !

1964 - 2014

CDFC 9 Premierships

NFC 8 Premierships

Any way enough of history.

Congratulations well done great job in restoring the natural balance of the SANFL even with your salary cap breaches over the last cupla years.

Fantastic effort by you club in beating the filthy rotten stinking AFL POWER RESERVES PARASITIC SKUM !!!!!

Win lose or draw these PARASITES should not be in our comp.

Now get back to your beer and enjoy !
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby mal » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:31 pm

Apachebulldog wrote:
Legs Man wrote:9 premierships vs 30 - sorry no argument - back to Doggy land.




Tut Tut Legs Man do not become arrogant like SOME of the Power supporters please !!!

History lesson for ya know your foes history like i know yours.

NFC 1878 - 2014

CDFC first league season 1964 - 2014

NFC 86 year head start so more premierships of course !

1964 - 2014

CDFC 9 Premierships

NFC 8 Premierships

Any way enough of history.

Congratulations well done great job in restoring the natural balance of the SANFL even with your salary cap breaches over the last cupla years.

Fantastic effort by you club in beating the filthy rotten stinking AFL POWER RESERVES PARASITIC SKUM !!!!!

Win lose or draw these PARASITES should not be in our comp.

Now get back to your beer and enjoy !


STRIKE RATES
NW 21.89%
CD 17.64%

SINCE 1964
NW 15.68%
CD 17.64%

IF NW go from 3peat to 4play next season both sides will have the same strike rates since the CD inception of 64
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:37 pm

The power chasing history yesterday, first time a new team enters the comp and wins a flag.... What a fairytale if it happened...
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Apachebulldog » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:56 pm

mal wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:
Legs Man wrote:9 premierships vs 30 - sorry no argument - back to Doggy land.




Tut Tut Legs Man do not become arrogant like SOME of the Power supporters please !!!

History lesson for ya know your foes history like i know yours.

NFC 1878 - 2014

CDFC first league season 1964 - 2014

NFC 86 year head start so more premierships of course !

1964 - 2014

CDFC 9 Premierships

NFC 8 Premierships

Any way enough of history.

Congratulations well done great job in restoring the natural balance of the SANFL even with your salary cap breaches over the last cupla years.

Fantastic effort by you club in beating the filthy rotten stinking AFL POWER RESERVES PARASITIC SKUM !!!!!

Win lose or draw these PARASITES should not be in our comp.

Now get back to your beer and enjoy !


STRIKE RATES
NW 21.89%
CD 17.64%

SINCE 1964
NW 15.68%
CD 17.64%

IF NW go from 3peat to 4play next season both sides will have the same strike rates since the CD inception of 64



Wow great stats there Mal

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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:13 pm

They are.


Quite interesting.


Almost as interesting.


As yours.


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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby mal » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:30 pm

And I know you want more
Norwood won a flag in its first 3 years in the SANFL and its last 3 years as well
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:37 pm

Booney wrote:They are.


Quite interesting.


Almost as interesting.


As yours.


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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:38 pm

Been a loooooooong weekend......
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Re: 2014 SANFL GRAND FINAL NORWOOD V PA RESERVES

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:42 pm

Shit! I commented on this game thread. Damn it.
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