Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commission

[UK Fan]

Yes UK Fan, so do I, but he doesn't have a high profile in the footy community like the bloke whom I believe will be named.

Who was Dave Cavenett in the football community before becoming cdfc president ???

[topsywaldron]

Pretty simple I'm guessing, he feels passionately that the SANFL has been eviscerated by the actions of six clubs and is trying to hold them to account.

Not too tricky?

I'm pretty certain that now that the deals have been done and the commission / league directors signed off on it that the only thing that removing any of the clubs boards would only be acting from spite. Good luck.

What a Norwwod member may or may not do has got zero to do with someone without an SANFL club.

[UK Fan]

Pretty simple I'm guessing, he feels passionately that the SANFL has been eviscerated by the actions of six clubs and is trying to hold them to account.

Not too tricky?

I'm pretty certain that now that the deals have been done and the commission / league directors signed off on it that the only thing that removing any of the clubs boards would only be acting from spite. Good luck.

What a Norwwod member may or may not do has got zero to do with someone without an SANFL club.

Gold!!!!


As if port fans know what it's like to get a vote when it comes to board members

[saintal]

What UK Fan, and many others here fail to grasp is that this strong definte NO mentality is very much in the minority. The majority of SANFL fans dont give a shit. The majority of Norwood fans dont give a shit. How many people turned up to the members information nights held by the clubs about this? From recollection (could be wrong) most said here it was around about 50-70 people at each. Wow. Maybe if more people turned up to these, then clubs may have felt more inclined to vote no. Or maybe they realise that the majority of their membership dont really care if the Crows are in the competition and may in fact be looking forward to beating them, or if they are Crows fans, going along and seeing both their clubs play on the same day. Or maybe they realise that for 90% of the season, nothing is different. Same club playing against the same SANFL teams.

Ditto Port and about how sad it is for "real" "Magpies" fans. No matter what decision a football club, or any organisation makes, a faction will be unhappy with that decision. So do you make decisions as a business based on the 3% who will be unhappy, of which 80% of them will probably get over it, or do you make decisions on the 97% who will continue to support that organisation regardless?

You make some reasonable points Macca. A fair portion of the population are apathetic and/or haven’t bothered to consider the ramifications of these changes to any great degree. This goes for most social/political issues as well.

This situation reminds me somewhat of the 80/20 Pareto theory. In that 80% of your business is generally generated from 20% of your customers. Although the results of the foot-e times survey can be fobbed off as misleading due to the readership of that publication, I think many who completed the survey would fall into that “20%” category. The members who are also season ticket holders. Who have a meal and a drink before/after the game. Who attend in the depths of winter when crowds consist of just your “die-hards”. Who attend when your team is sh*thouse. Who buy merchandise and attend club functions/fundraisers. Who sell the raffle tickets the club mails them. Who turn up at AGMs and members meetings etc.

We’ll see if by pissing off and disrespecting this “20%” there will be ramifications. On the other hand, perhaps these are the fans that are so highly vested in their club, that they will find it the hardest to walk away depite the league being a compromised cluster****. We’ll find out for sure in 3-5 years’ time I feel, as opposed to next year.

[Booney]

What UK Fan, and many others here fail to grasp is that this strong definte NO mentality is very much in the minority. The majority of SANFL fans dont give a shit. The majority of Norwood fans dont give a shit. How many people turned up to the members information nights held by the clubs about this? From recollection (could be wrong) most said here it was around about 50-70 people at each. Wow. Maybe if more people turned up to these, then clubs may have felt more inclined to vote no. Or maybe they realise that the majority of their membership dont really care if the Crows are in the competition and may in fact be looking forward to beating them, or if they are Crows fans, going along and seeing both their clubs play on the same day. Or maybe they realise that for 90% of the season, nothing is different. Same club playing against the same SANFL teams.

Ditto Port and about how sad it is for "real" "Magpies" fans. No matter what decision a football club, or any organisation makes, a faction will be unhappy with that decision. So do you make decisions as a business based on the 3% who will be unhappy, of which 80% of them will probably get over it, or do you make decisions on the 97% who will continue to support that organisation regardless?

Did we get any actual numbers on the people who attended the SANFL club members meetings?

[FlyingHigh]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6716365379

One little point in this article seems to have been missed.
Port Adelaide may be able to revive their juniors in the amateur league.
How will this effect the SANFL clubs whose zones will include part of the Port Adelaide area? Can imagine they'll have an uphill battle trying to get these players to their clubs, especially if a kid is a Port supporter. No doubt there will be some pissing in pockets to these players that they can still represent Port Adelaide.

[bays2011]

What UK Fan, and many others here fail to grasp is that this strong definte NO mentality is very much in the minority. The majority of SANFL fans dont give a shit. The majority of Norwood fans dont give a shit. How many people turned up to the members information nights held by the clubs about this? From recollection (could be wrong) most said here it was around about 50-70 people at each. Wow. Maybe if more people turned up to these, then clubs may have felt more inclined to vote no. Or maybe they realise that the majority of their membership dont really care if the Crows are in the competition and may in fact be looking forward to beating them, or if they are Crows fans, going along and seeing both their clubs play on the same day. Or maybe they realise that for 90% of the season, nothing is different. Same club playing against the same SANFL teams.

Ditto Port and about how sad it is for "real" "Magpies" fans. No matter what decision a football club, or any organisation makes, a faction will be unhappy with that decision. So do you make decisions as a business based on the 3% who will be unhappy, of which 80% of them will probably get over it, or do you make decisions on the 97% who will continue to support that organisation regardless?

You make some reasonable points Macca. A fair portion of the population are apathetic and/or haven’t bothered to consider the ramifications of these changes to any great degree. This goes for most social/political issues as well.

This situation reminds me somewhat of the 80/20 Pareto theory. In that 80% of your business is generally generated from 20% of your customers. Although the results of the foot-e times survey can be fobbed off as misleading due to the readership of that publication, I think many who completed the survey would fall into that “20%” category. The members who are also season ticket holders. Who have a meal and a drink before/after the game. Who attend in the depths of winter when crowds consist of just your “die-hards”. Who attend when your team is sh*thouse. Who buy merchandise and attend club functions/fundraisers. Who sell the raffle tickets the club mails them. Who turn up at AGMs and members meetings etc.

We’ll see if by pissing off and disrespecting this “20%” there will be ramifications. On the other hand, perhaps these are the fans that are so highly vested in their club, that they will find it the hardest to walk away depite the league being a compromised cluster****. We’ll find out for sure in 3-5 years’ time I feel, as opposed to next year.

You are spot on! This change is pissing off the SANFL supporters who matter most, the season ticket holders and club members. The people the SANFL clubs can least afford to piss off.

[beenreal]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/answering-port-adelaide-supporters8217-key-questions-on-power-reserves/story-fnia6ojc-1226716365379

One little point in this article seems to have been missed.
Port Adelaide may be able to revive their juniors in the amateur league.
How will this effect the SANFL clubs whose zones will include part of the Port Adelaide area? Can imagine they'll have an uphill battle trying to get these players to their clubs, especially if a kid is a Port supporter. No doubt there will be some pissing in pockets to these players that they can still represent Port Adelaide.

I definitely hope so

[Dutchy]

Did we get any actual numbers on the people who attended the SANFL club members meetings?

Not all clubs had them for a start.

[Lynwood]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/answering-port-adelaide-supporters8217-key-questions-on-power-reserves/story-fnia6ojc-1226716365379

One little point in this article seems to have been missed.
Port Adelaide may be able to revive their juniors in the amateur league.
How will this effect the SANFL clubs whose zones will include part of the Port Adelaide area? Can imagine they'll have an uphill battle trying to get these players to their clubs, especially if a kid is a Port supporter. No doubt there will be some pissing in pockets to these players that they can still represent Port Adelaide.

How will other SAAFL clubs feel about their clubs kids going to Port to compete against them?

[Jim05]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/answering-port-adelaide-supporters8217-key-questions-on-power-reserves/story-fnia6ojc-1226716365379

One little point in this article seems to have been missed.
Port Adelaide may be able to revive their juniors in the amateur league.
How will this effect the SANFL clubs whose zones will include part of the Port Adelaide area? Can imagine they'll have an uphill battle trying to get these players to their clubs, especially if a kid is a Port supporter. No doubt there will be some pissing in pockets to these players that they can still represent Port Adelaide.

How will other SAAFL clubs feel about their clubs kids going to Port to compete against them?

Hopefully there parents are smart enough to send them elsewhere, my son will definately be never allowed to go to them.
Its bad enough now that he is training with Centrals u16's

[Jim05]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/answering-port-adelaide-supporters8217-key-questions-on-power-reserves/story-fnia6ojc-1226716365379

One little point in this article seems to have been missed.
Port Adelaide may be able to revive their juniors in the amateur league.
How will this effect the SANFL clubs whose zones will include part of the Port Adelaide area? Can imagine they'll have an uphill battle trying to get these players to their clubs, especially if a kid is a Port supporter. No doubt there will be some pissing in pockets to these players that they can still represent Port Adelaide.

I definitely hope so

Beeny, serious question I havnt heard answered.
At the moment if a kid is drafted to the AFL his feeder club gets some financial reward am I correct?
If a kid is brought up through Port's academy sides and is drafted would Port still be able to collect these rewards?

[beenreal]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/answering-port-adelaide-supporters8217-key-questions-on-power-reserves/story-fnia6ojc-1226716365379

One little point in this article seems to have been missed.
Port Adelaide may be able to revive their juniors in the amateur league.
How will this effect the SANFL clubs whose zones will include part of the Port Adelaide area? Can imagine they'll have an uphill battle trying to get these players to their clubs, especially if a kid is a Port supporter. No doubt there will be some pissing in pockets to these players that they can still represent Port Adelaide.

I definitely hope so

Beeny, serious question I havnt heard answered.
At the moment if a kid is drafted to the AFL his feeder club gets some financial reward am I correct?
If a kid is brought up through Port's academy sides and is drafted would Port still be able to collect these rewards?

I'd love to answer yes and hear your head explode Jim

No is the correct answer, as the player development payment goes to the club of origin, which is fair enough.

[Jim05]

No it was a genuine question Beeny.
I know the original club is rewarded but doesnt the SANFL club receive some aswell?
If Port does the hard work for years and trains someone up why shouldnt they be compensated?
Dont have an issue with that at all but thanks for your concern

[daysofourlives]

You going to buy a Norwood membership, vote at the AGM and show how serious you are about it UK? Or are you too, just full of piss and wind.

Excellent question Booney, but the question I have is WHO are we meant to replace them with? No one has come forward with an alternative board!!

If that bloke for the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party can hold a senate seat and hold the balance of power on future legislation that effects the whole of Australia I don't see why fester can't be the Director at the Norwood Football Club and make decisions for the good of football in this state. However I'd suggest if the SANFL went to fester with the same deal they went to Tripodi with fester would drop his pants and bend over just like Tripodi

[beenreal]

No it was a genuine question Beeny.
I know the original club is rewarded but doesnt the SANFL club receive some aswell?
If Port does the hard work for years and trains someone up why shouldnt they be compensated?
Dont have an issue with that at all but thanks for your concern

I understood it was a genuine question Jim. Just thought I'd have some fun with the answer.

While PA may develop the player, the compensation goes back to the original club, which as KT publicly stated on Monday night, the club ( and I) don't have a problem with.

I imaging the PAFC gets its reward in sponsorships, Finals Dividends, etc. if/when the player comes good.

[zipzap]

What UK Fan, and many others here fail to grasp is that this strong definte NO mentality is very much in the minority. The majority of SANFL fans dont give a shit. The majority of Norwood fans dont give a shit. How many people turned up to the members information nights held by the clubs about this? From recollection (could be wrong) most said here it was around about 50-70 people at each. Wow. Maybe if more people turned up to these, then clubs may have felt more inclined to vote no. Or maybe they realise that the majority of their membership dont really care if the Crows are in the competition and may in fact be looking forward to beating them, or if they are Crows fans, going along and seeing both their clubs play on the same day. Or maybe they realise that for 90% of the season, nothing is different. Same club playing against the same SANFL teams.

Ditto Port and about how sad it is for "real" "Magpies" fans. No matter what decision a football club, or any organisation makes, a faction will be unhappy with that decision. So do you make decisions as a business based on the 3% who will be unhappy, of which 80% of them will probably get over it, or do you make decisions on the 97% who will continue to support that organisation regardless?

Did we get any actual numbers on the people who attended the SANFL club members meetings?

Zero turned up at Sturt

[Booney]

So a meeting was convened, yet nobody chose to attend?

[fester69]

You going to buy a Norwood membership, vote at the AGM and show how serious you are about it UK? Or are you too, just full of piss and wind.

Excellent question Booney, but the question I have is WHO are we meant to replace them with? No one has come forward with an alternative board!!

If that bloke for the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party can hold a senate seat and hold the balance of power on future legislation that effects the whole of Australia I don't see why fester can't be the Director at the Norwood Football Club and make decisions for the good of football in this state. However I'd suggest if the SANFL went to fester with the same deal they went to Tripodi with fester would drop his pants and bend over just like Tripodi

I'd make sure I'd get more than $50,000 and would only vote in the best interests of Norwood, and if other clubs couldn't survive by themselves, stiff shit!!

[UK Fan]

You going to buy a Norwood membership, vote at the AGM and show how serious you are about it UK? Or are you too, just full of piss and wind.

Excellent question Booney, but the question I have is WHO are we meant to replace them with? No one has come forward with an alternative board!!

If that bloke for the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party can hold a senate seat and hold the balance of power on future legislation that effects the whole of Australia I don't see why fester can't be the Director at the Norwood Football Club and make decisions for the good of football in this state. However I'd suggest if the SANFL went to fester with the same deal they went to Tripodi with fester would drop his pants and bend over just like Tripodi

I'd make sure I'd get more than $50,000 and would only vote in the best interests of Norwood, and if other clubs couldn't survive by themselves, stiff shit!!

Bollocks. Fairmont homes would come on in and youd fold like a pack of cards.

BTW had confirmation if Joe Lied to you yet again.

Cos Im hearing Norwood were a YES for Port.