Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:56 pm
by SimonH
Everything I say below is based on the assumption that the qualification requirements remain 'live' in finals (i.e. finals matches count) and aren't set in stone at the end of the minor round. There's nothing in the wording to suggest that finals should be ignored, but no-one's 100% confirmed it. However, the list published by Port Adelaide (quoted by RustyCage above) presumes that it is set in stone at the end of the minor round.
I've also assumed that an AFL team is deemed to be "involved" for the whole weekend when they play finals—otherwise, if the 2 sets of games were to overlap (with the AFL finishing first), the 2nds might have to take players off at half-time of their SANFL final!
In short, if the AFL team lines up as selected, and if everyone who can fly back does fly back from Perth and play SANFL, there are 2 players included in the list published by PAFC who now don't (or at least shouldn't) qualify—O'Shea and Moore—and 2 players who were excluded from the list published by PAFC who will qualify—Impey (who qualifies regardless of what happens this weekend) and Aaron Young.
Impey: At the time that list was published, he didn't qualify. Right now he does, because he's played 3 of the last 4 SANFL games, playing SANFL Rs 16 and 17, not playing at all on the weekend of 22-24 August (SANFL R18), and playing 2SF. Therefore he qualifies under the '3 of the last 5 games at SANFL level' rule. Even if Port didn't play him this weekend in the SANFL, it'll still be 3 of the last 5 and he'd be eligible for GF selection if they made it.
O'Shea: As we speak, doesn't qualify because he's played 10 AFL and 10 SANFL games this year, i.e. not the majority of his football at SANFL level. (And all of his SANFL were ages ago, so no '3 out of 5' chance for him.) He's in the named 22 for the Pahhhhr 1sts, so there's no way he'll play SANFL, therefore after this weekend he really, really won't qualify.
Mitchell: This is a tight one. 10 AFL and 8 SANFL this year, so definitely not under that rule. At the time the list was published, he'd played 3 of the last 5 SANFL minor round matches: R14, 17, 18. However, R14 is ancient history now. In the last 4 Port SANFL games he's played 2: R17 and R18. So he must play SANFL this weekend to make the 3/5 and qualify for the GF if they win. Because he had the weekend off last weekend as well, definitely the pick to fly back and play if only 1 of them does. That said, there's another emergency they may be motivated to fly back & play...
Young: Another one on the edge, who qualifies only if he plays SANFL this weekend. 14 AFL, 4 SANFL for the year, but 2 of those SANFL games were R18 and 2SF, so add a 3rd and he'll qualify under the 3/5 rule.
Neade: Makes it easily even though he's been an automatic pick for the Pahhhhhr AFL side for a few weeks now. 14 SANFL, 6 AFL this year.
Moore: As we speak, 8 SANFL and 7 AFL games this year (with the SANFL having been a while back). So if he lines up as selected in the AFL, he will lose his 'majority SANFL' and will no longer qualify.
All of that said: carrrrn the Panthers.
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:59 pm
by LPH
There is a direct flight with Virgin (only 4 seats available in economy) - departing 5:55pm from Perth tomorrow, cost $569 one way.
I assume they fly Virgin, as they sponsor the AFL.
If they fly Business Class, $1550 each.
I repeat, who pays the bill?
SANFL Club (aka Magpies) or AFL Club (aka Power).
Or does the SANFL pay?
Should they fly Business Class & the SANFL (essentially the 8 Clubs) have to pay, that's roughly $550 per Club.
Same as 4 x memberships.
Hmmm...
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:02 pm
by Rising Power
Everybody loves an anti-Port love in. Especially Port.
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:05 pm
by Rising Power
LPH wrote:There is a direct flight with Virgin (only 4 seats available in economy) - departing 5:55pm from Perth tomorrow, cost $569 one way.
I assume they fly Virgin, as they sponsor the AFL.
If they fly Business Class, $1550 each.
I repeat, who pays the bill?
SANFL Club (aka Magpies) or AFL Club (aka Power).
Or does the SANFL pay?
Should they fly Business Class & the SANFL (essentially the 8 Clubs) have to pay, that's roughly $550 per Club.
Same as 4 x memberships.
Hmmm...
SANFL Club or AFL Club? I'd have thought it would all come out of the same bank account, you know, since the merger (Magpies dead, now Port Power FC est 1997 which is in itself a good effort considering their first official match was in February that year but I digress). I'd think the club would pay, why would the SANFL pay for it?
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:12 pm
by SimonH
LPH wrote:There is a direct flight with Virgin (only 4 seats available in economy) - departing 5:55pm from Perth tomorrow, cost $569 one way.
I assume they fly Virgin, as they sponsor the AFL.
If they fly Business Class, $1550 each.
I repeat, who pays the bill?
SANFL Club (aka Magpies) or AFL Club (aka Power).
Or does the SANFL pay?
Should they fly Business Class & the SANFL (essentially the 8 Clubs) have to pay, that's roughly $550 per Club.
Same as 4 x memberships.
Hmmm...
The Pahhhhr 2nds (formerly Magpies) run on $400 per week for Steve Summerton, the interest on the loan for the cost of a 6-foot high shiny sign saying 'Welcome to the Academy!' that was a condition of Surjan accepting his job as coach of the 3rds, plus a few leftover boot studs someone found in the corner of the change room.
I think it's very very safe to say that anything that relates to flights for anyone who does anything at all with an AFL club, is done under the auspices of the AFL club. I won't use the words "paid for" though, 'cos no doubt there's some really complicated contra arrangement between Virgin and the AFL, which the individual clubs are the beneficiaries of as they fly their players and officials all over the country through the season.
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:26 pm
by Booney
**** me....now the flights they take is subject to a Royal Commission.
Can we find out who pays for their water at the airport? What if they want a magazine for the flight?
Salary cap investigation!!!!
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:40 pm
by RB
Stuff the plane, the six league commissioners should piggy-back the emergencies back across the Nullabor.
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:45 pm
by footywise
Regarding qaulifying, do norwood hope power win or lose tomorow night?
Win but win wounded?
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:47 pm
by footywise
RB wrote:Stuff the plane, the six league commissioners should piggy-back the emergencies back across the Nullabor.
No buffet lunches across the nullabour
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:58 pm
by Jim05
RB wrote:Stuff the plane, the six league commissioners should piggy-back the emergencies back across the Nullabor.
Stopping every 10 minutes to re insert their snouts into the trough?
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:59 pm
by Jim05
footywise wrote:Regarding qaulifying, do norwood hope power win or lose tomorow night?
Win but win wounded?
Dont care who we play but someone from South doing a Steven Sims would be fine by me
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:23 pm
by southee
LPH wrote:There is a direct flight with Virgin (only 4 seats available in economy) - departing 5:55pm from Perth tomorrow, cost $569 one way.
I assume they fly Virgin, as they sponsor the AFL.
If they fly Business Class, $1550 each.
I repeat, who pays the bill?
SANFL Club (aka Magpies) or AFL Club (aka Power).
Or does the SANFL pay?
Should they fly Business Class & the SANFL (essentially the 8 Clubs) have to pay, that's roughly $550 per Club.
Same as 4 x memberships.
Hmmm...
From what I am hearing , the SANFL will be paying !
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:53 pm
by footywise
You cant be serious. Will they pay for brooksby to come back from his brothers 30th birthday show on sat night ? got about as much to do with the sanfl as whatever these port magpie players are doing the night before. both have nothing to do with our competition
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:55 pm
by footywise
I just texted booka boo and told him to charter a flight home and book it diwn to the sanfl
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:21 pm
by RustyCage
What crap. The SANFL doesn't pay for emergencies or coaches to fly back at any other time of the year, why would they now?
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:28 pm
by RB
southee wrote:LPH wrote:There is a direct flight with Virgin (only 4 seats available in economy) - departing 5:55pm from Perth tomorrow, cost $569 one way.
I assume they fly Virgin, as they sponsor the AFL.
If they fly Business Class, $1550 each.
I repeat, who pays the bill?
SANFL Club (aka Magpies) or AFL Club (aka Power).
Or does the SANFL pay?
Should they fly Business Class & the SANFL (essentially the 8 Clubs) have to pay, that's roughly $550 per Club.
Same as 4 x memberships.
Hmmm...
From what I am hearing , the SANFL will be paying !
What, with the integrity of the comp?
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:32 pm
by daysofourlives
No mention of this game on Ch 9 news, how bout Ch 7 news?
Increased interest and coverage my ass
Re: Preliminary Final - Port v South @ Adelaide Oval (Sun 14
Posted:
Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:00 pm
by Keefy
daysofourlives wrote:No mention of this game on Ch 9 news, how bout Ch 7 news?
Increased interest and coverage my ass
Don't know about tonight but Rolfe was on Wed night and Brooksby last night on Ch 7