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Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:27 amby human_torpedo
mots02 wrote:MW wrote:Haggling over money would be the reason they haven't signed yet.
Crows (well known) low ball. It's a habit they need to get out of as it has cost them talent.
The only bargaining chip they have in these instances is Lever and Gov are not free agents, so if we lose them, it will not be for nothing.
the numbers talked about for Gov are a joke, but if he gets offered that from a WA club, good luck to him. Crows need to get closer clearly but not sell the farm on Gov.
Lever I would pay him what he wants though. Regardless that he is normally the 3rd tall, his contested marking ability down back and run off his opponent is already elite, and would transfer even if he was the 1st or 2nd defender. Can't afford to lose him.
Yep, thats the bit that gets left off of all of these rumours.
who are Melbourne stumping up to get the deal done?
Who are freo likely to put on the table?
If Gov said Freo was his destination of choice, I would ask them for Lachie Neale and next years first rounder, for Gov and our first pick this year..
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:28 amby JK
Do you think winning the flag would help keep either player, or would it make it easier for them to leave on a high note?
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:29 amby MW
JK wrote:Do you think winning the flag would help keep either player, or would it make it easier for them to leave on a high note?
Stay
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:31 amby hawks21
We will keep both IMO. Mark Stevens and Mitch Cleary Monday night tweeted their Crows sources said McGovern is very close to signing a 2 year deal. (I'd suggest that is his manager maximising his contract $$ and leaving the door open for a return to WA).
Lever no doubt listening to a few VIC clubs and huge $$. The club will pay him what he is worth and will either sign a huge 5 year deal or a 2 year deal like Gov.
I like how people say the Crows 'low ball players' and that's why we have lost talent. Please tell me how Bock, Davis, Tippet, Gunston, Dangerfield were 'low balled' and that's why they left? Hawthorn and Geelong built success on not over paying players and building a culture around this.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:48 amby beef
Imagine how much Jenkins would've got if he didn't accept such a low ball offer.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:52 amby bennymacca
Victorian media rubbish imo. Any good player has to want to come and play for a Victorian club
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:54 amby Booney
bennymacca wrote:Victorian media rubbish imo. Any good player has to want to come and play for a Victorian club
If he's Victorian, it makes sense the the rumors...
Lever - Victoria
McGovern - WA
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:56 amby Booney
beef wrote:Imagine how much Jenkins would've got if he didn't accept such a low ball offer.
Crows paying him $550-600k, if that in any way restricts keeping McGovern up front then lol.
Plenty of my Crow mates reckon they should have taken Brisbane's picks, let Jenkins walk and kept the coin for the two currently in negotiations.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:00 pmby cracka
Booney wrote:beef wrote:Imagine how much Jenkins would've got if he didn't accept such a low ball offer.
Crows paying him $550-600k, if that in any way restricts keeping McGovern up front then lol.
Plenty of my Crow mates reckon they should have taken Brisbane's picks, let Jenkins walk and kept the coin for the two currently in negotiations.
Hindsight
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:06 pmby hawks21
Booney wrote:beef wrote:Imagine how much Jenkins would've got if he didn't accept such a low ball offer.
Crows paying him $550-600k, if that in any way restricts keeping McGovern up front then lol.
Plenty of my Crow mates reckon they should have taken Brisbane's picks, let Jenkins walk and kept the coin for the two currently in negotiations.
If we were willing to pay Gibbs decent cash last year i'm sure there is enough room to move in the cap to keep both + the 20% CBA...
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:07 pmby mots02
Booney wrote:beef wrote:Imagine how much Jenkins would've got if he didn't accept such a low ball offer.
Crows paying him $550-600k, if that in any way restricts keeping McGovern up front then lol.
Plenty of my Crow mates reckon they should have taken Brisbane's picks, let Jenkins walk and kept the coin for the two currently in negotiations.
Whats he worth then?
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:08 pmby Booney
mots02 wrote:Booney wrote:beef wrote:Imagine how much Jenkins would've got if he didn't accept such a low ball offer.
Crows paying him $550-600k, if that in any way restricts keeping McGovern up front then lol.
Plenty of my Crow mates reckon they should have taken Brisbane's picks, let Jenkins walk and kept the coin for the two currently in negotiations.
Whats he worth then?
Which version?
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:11 pmby mots02
Booney wrote:mots02 wrote:Booney wrote:beef wrote:Imagine how much Jenkins would've got if he didn't accept such a low ball offer.
Crows paying him $550-600k, if that in any way restricts keeping McGovern up front then lol.
Plenty of my Crow mates reckon they should have taken Brisbane's picks, let Jenkins walk and kept the coin for the two currently in negotiations.
Whats he worth then?
Which version?
If McGovern is suddenly worth $750 and Charlie Dixon is worth $600 (both the 2016 and 2017 versions of Charles) then $550 seems pretty right for Jenkins
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:19 pmby JK
bennymacca wrote:Victorian media rubbish imo. Any good player has to want to come and play for a Victorian club
Just read the article from Sam McClure - Suggests Lever meeting directly with the club is a bad sign, but then goes on to say how happy he is in Adelaide and has thoughts of future captaincy at the Crows, so having a bit each way on it.
I think for years a lot of AFL fans wanted the hectic trading of the American sports, which seems to well and truly be here these days and is probably a good thing (depending on whether its your own club risking loss of a good player lol)
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:23 pmby Gozu
McGovern's not worth $750k though and if a Freo or whatever offer him that good luck to him. He gets the third tall defender each week behind Jenkins & Tex at the Crows. The way Jenkins played last year he deserved that $550k a year contract perhaps not 5 years but that's why we got him for $550k.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:23 pmby Booney
If I was to guess I reckon Lever goes and McGovern stays. Just my gut feel with all the rubbish flying around.
I reckon Lever will be getting some irresistible offers from clubs in Melbourne, the Dees being the front runner, as rumor suggests.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:25 pmby Jim05
Bombers having a real dip at Lever I believe. Not real happy if that's so as it's pretty clear we need mids, mids and more mids
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:29 pmby Gozu
Jim05 wrote:Bombers having a real dip at Lever I believe. Not real happy if that's so as it's pretty clear we need mids, mids and more mids
I hear your Dispute Resolution Manager one Mr Gatto has suggested Lever agree to meet him in the store room for an offer he can't refuse.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:36 pmby bennymacca
At least he isn't a free agent so clubs would be stumping up big. We would want a first rounder at least for McGovern and more than that for lever.
Re: Adelaide Crows 2017
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Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:32 pmby hawks21
Jim05 wrote:Bombers having a real dip at Lever I believe. Not real happy if that's so as it's pretty clear we need mids, mids and more mids
Most VIC clubs are, and rightly so. No real consistent talk out of the Melbourne media though, it's Melbourne one week, Collingwood the next and then the Dogs. Now today i've read he's met with Melbourne officials and he will request a trade to Collingwood haha