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Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 12:35 am
by MW
I checked and yep... we've still got the 4 points :lol:

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:35 am
by Booney
MW wrote:I checked and yep... we've still got the 4 points :lol:


Exactly, so just say "It was deliberate" instead of bullshitting everyone!

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 7:39 am
by whufc
How do people feel though about it being deliberate if it did touch the Melbourne players hand.

For mine if you do not have the last touch you cannot be responsible for the 'deliberate' ruling regardless of how little the touch was.

Obviously we can argue about whether it was touched until the cows come home but im talking more about the hypothetical of that situation.

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 8:47 am
by MW
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:I checked and yep... we've still got the 4 points :lol:


Exactly, so just say "It was deliberate" instead of bullshitting everyone!


I didnt realise people cant see the touch by Spargo and thats the reason for calling it deliberate. If that's the case then I cant help you all :lol:

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 8:48 am
by MW
whufc wrote:How do people feel though about it being deliberate if it did touch the Melbourne players hand.

For mine if you do not have the last touch you cannot be responsible for the 'deliberate' ruling regardless of how little the touch was.

Obviously we can argue about whether it was touched until the cows come home but im talking more about the hypothetical of that situation.


No apparently the ruling by the AFL implies there was no touch from what I've been told.

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:06 am
by Booney
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:I checked and yep... we've still got the 4 points :lol:


Exactly, so just say "It was deliberate" instead of bullshitting everyone!


I didnt realise people cant see the touch by Spargo and thats the reason for calling it deliberate. If that's the case then I cant help you all :lol:


I didn't realise the umpire could see through players in slow motion from the blindside to not call it deliberate, if that's the case then I can't help you all.

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:15 am
by MW
singing from the same hymn book mate

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:22 am
by whufc
MW wrote:
whufc wrote:How do people feel though about it being deliberate if it did touch the Melbourne players hand.

For mine if you do not have the last touch you cannot be responsible for the 'deliberate' ruling regardless of how little the touch was.

Obviously we can argue about whether it was touched until the cows come home but im talking more about the hypothetical of that situation.


No apparently the ruling by the AFL implies there was no touch from what I've been told.


Understand that but I guess I was working on the hypothetical 'IF' he did touch. On social media yesterday there were some heated discussion around whether it could still be deliberate had the Melbourne player touched it.....personally I'm of the opinion that if the Melbourne player had the last touch regardless of how small, light whatever it could not be deliberate then.

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:23 am
by MW
Totally agree mate.

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:55 am
by Senor Moto Gadili
whufc wrote:
MW wrote:
whufc wrote:How do people feel though about it being deliberate if it did touch the Melbourne players hand.

For mine if you do not have the last touch you cannot be responsible for the 'deliberate' ruling regardless of how little the touch was.

Obviously we can argue about whether it was touched until the cows come home but im talking more about the hypothetical of that situation.


No apparently the ruling by the AFL implies there was no touch from what I've been told.


Understand that but I guess I was working on the hypothetical 'IF' he did touch. On social media yesterday there were some heated discussion around whether it could still be deliberate had the Melbourne player touched it.....personally I'm of the opinion that if the Melbourne player had the last touch regardless of how small, light whatever it could not be deliberate then.

Agreed .... can't be called for insufficient intent if another player touches it. AFL review determined that Spargo didn't touch it.

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:58 am
by MW
Just like JJ's goal didn't hit the post ;)

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 10:01 am
by mighty_tiger_79
whufc wrote:How do people feel though about it being deliberate if it did touch the Melbourne players hand.

For mine if you do not have the last touch you cannot be responsible for the 'deliberate' ruling regardless of how little the touch was.

Obviously we can argue about whether it was touched until the cows come home but im talking more about the hypothetical of that situation.
Still deliberate

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Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 10:02 am
by Booney
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Agreed .... can't be called for insufficient intent if another player touches it. AFL review determined that Spargo didn't touch it.


I'm puzzled by the argument that Spargo touched it, I've got very good vision and I can't be sure either way in slow motion and zoomed in.

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 10:05 am
by mighty_tiger_79
Booney wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Agreed .... can't be called for insufficient intent if another player touches it. AFL review determined that Spargo didn't touch it.


I'm puzzled by the argument that Spargo touched it, I've got very good vision and I can't be sure either way in slow motion and zoomed in.
I'm not sure he touched it.
But it can be insufficient intent if it brushes an opposition player who had little to know impact on the trajectory of the ball.


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Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 10:06 am
by mighty_tiger_79
I'm stunned the AFL haven't clamped down on the defensive punches to the boundary line in a contest as Deliberate


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Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 10:17 am
by reppoh_eht
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:I'm stunned the AFL haven't clamped down on the defensive punches to the boundary line in a contest as Deliberate


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Because you are allowed to do that... In a marking contest you are free to punch/spoil the ball as deliberately as you like towards the boundary.

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:14 am
by mots02
Booney wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Agreed .... can't be called for insufficient intent if another player touches it. AFL review determined that Spargo didn't touch it.


I'm puzzled by the argument that Spargo touched it, I've got very good vision and I can't be sure either way in slow motion and zoomed in.


I'm puzzled why anyone would go to the trouble of finding slow motion, zoomed in vision of the incident!

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Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:15 am
by mighty_tiger_79
mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Agreed .... can't be called for insufficient intent if another player touches it. AFL review determined that Spargo didn't touch it.


I'm puzzled by the argument that Spargo touched it, I've got very good vision and I can't be sure either way in slow motion and zoomed in.


I'm puzzled why anyone would go to the trouble of finding slow motion, zoomed in vision of the incident!

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Closet Crows fan perhaps??

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Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:21 am
by Booney
mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Agreed .... can't be called for insufficient intent if another player touches it. AFL review determined that Spargo didn't touch it.


I'm puzzled by the argument that Spargo touched it, I've got very good vision and I can't be sure either way in slow motion and zoomed in.


I'm puzzled why anyone would go to the trouble of finding slow motion, zoomed in vision of the incident!

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It was the evidence all the Crowies were using across the socials, didn't have to look at all, rolled across my feed.

Re: AFL Round 10

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:53 am
by MW
the butt hurt over this decision still is tremendous! :lol: :lol: