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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:09 pm
by morell
Thankyou, Trader.

Ruck SWARM v3!

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:12 pm
by The Bedge
Can't we just talk footy ball simply ways? :D

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:38 pm
by woodublieve12
morell wrote:When you add it all together. It's about as irrefutable as you can get.

Ryder is the best ruck in the comp as per the empirical ruck stats and aggregated anecdotal expert opinion.

I'll leave ya'll do it. I need to do some work.

Stats hey! So going by that Tom Mitchell is the best footballer in the comp because he gets the footy more than anyone else.

Is that how it works???

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:39 pm
by morell
Are you deliberately trying to make me smash my keyboard into my screen?

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:39 pm
by woodublieve12
morell wrote:Are you deliberately trying to make me smash my keyboard into my screen?

:lol:

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:52 pm
by daysofourlives
morell wrote:Thankyou, Trader.

Ruck SWARM v3!

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Umm, where Is Big Boy? He has been in the AA ruck conversation too? I hope you havent left him out because he beats Ryder on the Z score

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:53 pm
by bertiebeatle
Houston re-signed. Apparently Bonner & Howard have as well, just waiting for the official word.

Great news for Port! All 2 year deals

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:02 pm
by valleys07
Bonner is the one from this lot that I am just waiting for to explode.

Came to the club with a bit of hype on the back of a good U18 championships in 2015, and after his debut at the end of last year I had him pencilled in for 10-15 games this season.

Shat the bed massively in this seasons JLT games, and is well back in the pecking order now. Needs a massive off-season to prove that this extension is talent and not hype.

Absolutely love what "Housto" is producing. Absolutely solid as a rock back there.

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:28 pm
by morell
daysofourlives wrote:
morell wrote:Thankyou, Trader.

Ruck SWARM v3!

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Umm, where Is Big Boy? He has been in the AA ruck conversation too? I hope you haven't left him out because he beats Ryder on the Z score

He wasn't raised in the thread as an option.

Hes not in contention, sorry.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:32 pm
by Trader
Interesting that adding McEvoy moves Mumford ahead of Kreuzer.

What happens if you add all of the ruckmen in the comp?

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:41 pm
by morell
Trader wrote:Interesting that adding McEvoy moves Mumford ahead of Kreuzer.

What happens if you add all of the ruckmen in the comp?
I'd suspect not much. As in, the order would stay pretty much the same and the scores would condense.

If someone wants to add up the scores for the coaches MVP from here:

http://www.aflca.com.au/index.php?id=63

and the SEN votes from here:

http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/

Then I'll do the rest.

I was also going to incude a ToG somehow as well. Maybe take a proportion off the hit outs, disposals and team clearances.

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:41 pm
by valleys07
bertiebeatle wrote:Houston re-signed. Apparently Bonner & Howard have as well, just waiting for the official word.

Great news for Port! All 2 year deals


Back to the Bonner discussion for a moment;

Should Pittard re-commit to the club, we will be left with trying to condense he, Broadbent, Hartlett, DBJ, Houston, Jonas, Hombsch, Austin and Clurey into 6 spots.

A poster on BigFooty suggested we try Bonner as a high half forward? He has great athleticism for his height (191cm), is super quick and has a booming kick- all the attributes required to succeed in that sort of role.

IMO, this is the role that Hartlett should be fulfilling as that player who can mark strong overhead and kick goals from outside 50, but Ken likes him off of half back. Perhaps Bonner could become this player for us?

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:48 pm
by Wedgie
I'm still trying to work out who the greatest Power player ever is/was. Paddy Ryder or Johann Wagner? :lol:

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:01 pm
by bennymacca
morell wrote:
Trader wrote:Interesting that adding McEvoy moves Mumford ahead of Kreuzer.

What happens if you add all of the ruckmen in the comp?
I'd suspect not much. As in, the order would stay pretty much the same and the scores would condense.

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You have already proven this to be incorrect by adding a single extra ruck.

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:18 pm
by woodublieve12
Wedgie wrote:I'm still trying to work out who the greatest Power player ever is/was. Paddy Ryder or Johann Wagner? :lol:

Russell Ebert. Oh that was the magpies, a totally different club. Sorry

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:24 pm
by bertiebeatle
valleys07 wrote:
bertiebeatle wrote:Houston re-signed. Apparently Bonner & Howard have as well, just waiting for the official word.

Great news for Port! All 2 year deals


Back to the Bonner discussion for a moment;

Should Pittard re-commit to the club, we will be left with trying to condense he, Broadbent, Hartlett, DBJ, Houston, Jonas, Hombsch, Austin and Clurey into 6 spots.

A poster on BigFooty suggested we try Bonner as a high half forward? He has great athleticism for his height (191cm), is super quick and has a booming kick- all the attributes required to succeed in that sort of role.

IMO, this is the role that Hartlett should be fulfilling as that player who can mark strong overhead and kick goals from outside 50, but Ken likes him off of half back. Perhaps Bonner could become this player for us?



Very good question to ask. We are definitely stacked down back (Throw JT and Impey in there who can go down back as well). I'd like Hartlett on a HFF but can't see that happening. Bonner has the good disposal behind him as does Hammer. One of those two for me would be perfect at half forward. Even throw one of them onto a wing for White. Wouldn't mind seeing Bonner on a wing & Hartlett at HFF

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:47 pm
by morell
bennymacca wrote:
morell wrote:
Trader wrote:Interesting that adding McEvoy moves Mumford ahead of Kreuzer.

What happens if you add all of the ruckmen in the comp?
I'd suspect not much. As in, the order would stay pretty much the same and the scores would condense.

.


You have already proven this to be incorrect by adding a single extra ruck.

Struggling with reading comprehension too benny?

Mumford went ahead of Kreuzer because McEvoys hitouts made Kreuzers relatively low number even more "variant".

I doubt adding other rucks would change it all that much other than some minor jockeying for positions.

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:54 pm
by Wedgie
Just a small request, but do you have to be rude to everyone that might not have the same opinion as you?

Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:56 pm
by amber_fluid
woodublieve12 wrote:
Wedgie wrote:I'm still trying to work out who the greatest Power player ever is/was. Paddy Ryder or Johann Wagner? :lol:

Russell Ebert. Oh that was the magpies, a totally different club. Sorry


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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:29 pm
by morell
Wedgie wrote:Just a small request, but do you have to be rude to everyone that might not have the same opinion as you?
No. Provided those people read what I've said, understand it, and as a result provide counter points that are pertinent to the argument I'm putting forward.

I will, however, provide ignominy to the ignorant.

But really, what I said isn't really rude these days.