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Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:18 pm
by DOC
How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.
It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:20 pm
by amber_fluid
DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.
It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.
A bit like an apprentice?
Who work the same hours as qualified tradies do.
The ‘Apprentice list’!
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:52 pm
by Hector
DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.
It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.
Exactly. The rookie list may have been intended initially to give rookies a chance (Murry springs to mind) but to use it to delist someone and retain them I don't like. Clubs do it every year and I think it just exploits the players. Just expand the list.
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:36 pm
by cracka
Hector wrote:DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.
It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.
Exactly. The rookie list may have been intended initially to give rookies a chance (Murry springs to mind)
but to use it to delist someone and retain them I don't like. Clubs do it every year and I think it just exploits the players. Just expand the list.
Isn't it because the AFL makes clubs have a certain number of trades/retirements/delistings each year
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:43 pm
by daysofourlives
Hector wrote:DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.
It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.
Exactly. The rookie list may have been intended initially to give rookies a chance (Murry springs to mind) but to use it to delist someone and retain them I don't like. Clubs do it every year and I think it just exploits the players. Just expand the list.
But arent they delisting the old guys to make room on their primary list for a new 18yr old draftee? Probably better this way as the kid gets the main list spot and the old guys get a rookie spot
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:37 pm
by whufc
daysofourlives wrote:Hector wrote:DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.
It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.
Exactly. The rookie list may have been intended initially to give rookies a chance (Murry springs to mind) but to use it to delist someone and retain them I don't like. Clubs do it every year and I think it just exploits the players. Just expand the list.
But arent they delisting the old guys to make room on their primary list for a new 18yr old draftee? Probably better this way as the kid gets the main list spot and the old guys get a rookie spot
I could have this wrong but,........
I presume the old guy who once was pretty serviceable would request a higher salary than the 18 year old draftee.
Rookie list the old guy and his pay demand is minimal due to the rookie list rules, place the drafteee on your main list and you get them at a bargain price as well freeing up plenty of salary cap room for your better footballers.
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:05 pm
by Hector
whufc wrote:daysofourlives wrote:Hector wrote:DOC wrote:How about just include them in the list and adjust the cap.
It is complete and utter bullshit to refer to them as rookies. The Australian Football League Players' Association (AFLPA) has stated a desire to abolish the rookie list, in favour of an expanded 46 player roster. The AFLPA's main argument is that rookies now have the same workload as senior players – which was not necessarily true in the early days of the rookie list – but that their pay and opportunities are much lower than that of senior players.
Exactly. The rookie list may have been intended initially to give rookies a chance (Murry springs to mind) but to use it to delist someone and retain them I don't like. Clubs do it every year and I think it just exploits the players. Just expand the list.
But arent they delisting the old guys to make room on their primary list for a new 18yr old draftee? Probably better this way as the kid gets the main list spot and the old guys get a rookie spot
I could have this wrong but,........
I presume the old guy who once was pretty serviceable would request a higher salary than the 18 year old draftee.
Rookie list the old guy and his pay demand is minimal due to the rookie list rules, place the drafteee on your main list and you get them at a bargain price as well freeing up plenty of salary cap room for your better footballers.
I'm not saying it's not smart, that's why clubs do it. But in this case, Hamill wouldn't be on that much coin anyway. The advantage the Rookie List provides is that he gets to keep having a crack but with an expanded list he would be doing that anyway without being screwed over financially.
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:20 am
by Brodlach
Jack Hombsch elevated to a line coach
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:15 pm
by Brodlach
1. Gold Coast A
2. Geelong H
3. Fremantle A
4. Melbourne H
5. Carlton A
6. Essendon H
7. North Melbourne A
8. Port Power H
9. Brisbane H
10. Collingwood A
11. West Coast H
12. Hawthorn A
13. Richmond H
14. Sydney H
15. BYE
16. GWS H
17. Brisbane A
18. St Kilda H
19. Essendon A
20. Hawthorn H
21. Geelong A
22. Bulldogs H
23. Port Power A
24. Sydney A
Doubles: Port, Sydney, Essendon, Geelong, Hawthorn, Brisbane
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:22 pm
by Brodlach
Pretty happy with our first two picks
Third pick I have no idea and he was so surprised he was selected he had no idea what was happening
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:23 am
by Brodlach
Luke Pedler with a two year extension
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:50 pm
by DOC
Should make the position his own this year with McAdam gone.
Rate him highly.
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:52 pm
by Booney
Yep, good unit that one.
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:39 pm
by MW
Needs to improve his kicking for goal and he'll own that small forward role.
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:37 pm
by am Bays
I see him developing into the inside mid rotation (on the opposition go to) with rotation through the forwards in a defensive role over the length of this contract.
Not going to be the main inside mid but part of the 2nd/3rd rotation through the quarter
Rankine is the primary small forward trying to get the 30 odd goals a season
Another good Glenelg lad
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:09 am
by stan
He should be getting more midfield time in my opinion. I rate this guy, reckon he'll be a main part of their midfield going forward.
Let Rankine do his thing up forward and leave him there, could be a 50+ goal small forward in the seasons ahead.
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:38 am
by whufc
Pedler, one of those footballers no matter who you support you can’t help but respect and like him.
Such a crucial part of the team, makes Rankine and Rachele so much better.
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:32 am
by Vamos
whufc wrote:Pedler, one of those footballers no matter who you support you can’t help but respect and like him.
Such a crucial part of the team, makes Rankine and Rachele so much better.
Is this a view of someone who watches Adelaide "Closely" or just another too much time in between sessions dribble. Drakes are hiring
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:30 pm
by whufc
Vamos wrote:whufc wrote:Pedler, one of those footballers no matter who you support you can’t help but respect and like him.
Such a crucial part of the team, makes Rankine and Rachele so much better.
Is this a view of someone who watches Adelaide "Closely" or just another too much time in between sessions dribble. Drakes are hiring
Haha….. I do alright for a job mate
Surely you could understand the context of me not watching Port as ‘closely’ as someone like Booney who is at half their games, most likely looking at the forward set ups, looking at what happening up the ground, probably even watching a replay lol etc etc
Doesn’t mean you can’t comment however
Re: Adelaide
Posted:
Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:37 pm
by Brodlach
Adelaide to play Port and West Coast in the preseason games