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We are absolutely shite this year. With the expectations at the beginning of the year with us playing finals. You can pretty much write this year off by the standard of footy we have been playing so far this year. The coaches and players really need to have a look at themselves and think if how they are playing / coaching is really what they want to produce for the club. Piss weak they all are. I reckon the Essendon girl's team could beat the men's team at this point in time.

Neeld has jumped before he was pushed. Has been nothing but trouble and the cause of much infighting at the club.

Jim05 wrote:Neeld has jumped before he was pushed. Has been nothing but trouble and the cause of much infighting at the club.

What you mean by him being the cause of the infighting at the club Jim??

Bombers4EVA wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Neeld has jumped before he was pushed. Has been nothing but trouble and the cause of much infighting at the club.

What you mean by him being the cause of the infighting at the club Jim??

Much of our current game plan development is his and it’s caused plenty of fighting amongst players and other assistants. He was given too much power, so much so that on game days he won’t listen to the other assistants and is the only one allowed to discuss tactics with Worsfold

Hurley out for 2 with a hammy

Brodlach wrote:Hurley out for 2 with a hammy

Never a 2 week hammy at Essendon. See you in 6 Mick

Interesting interview between Garry Lyon and Brendan Goddard on SEN this morning.
Goddard talking about players not doing the basics and their effort is down. And they're aware of it. He was being pretty honest about the whole situation.
Then Lyon brought up the fact that Goddard hadn't laid a tackle in two weeks. Goddard fumbled around, explaining that tackles weren't the only measure of effort.
I thought it was a brave line of questioning. But Goddard did a reasonable job of answering it - but...no tackles in two weeks?
Lyon's right (even though he didn't quite say it), Goddard is a part of the problem.

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting interview between Garry Lyon and Brendan Goddard on SEN this morning.
Goddard talking about players not doing the basics and their effort is down. And they're aware of it. He was being pretty honest about the whole situation.
Then Lyon brought up the fact that Goddard hadn't laid a tackle in two weeks. Goddard fumbled around, explaining that tackles weren't the only measure of effort.
I thought it was a brave line of questioning. But Goddard did a reasonable job of answering it - but...no tackles in two weeks?
Lyon's right (even though he didn't quite say it), Goddard is a part of the problem.

I think Goddard and Heppell are huge parts of the problem. From the outside looking in they have no leadership at all! Goodard refusing to stand anyone and/or apply any pressure what so ever and Heppell is nothing short of a sheep dog.

Until they expose some young lads coming through the 2's the future looks very bleak for the Dons

f@#k me if Shaun McKernan is getting a game they are in real deep shit.....

carey wrote:

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting interview between Garry Lyon and Brendan Goddard on SEN this morning.
Goddard talking about players not doing the basics and their effort is down. And they're aware of it. He was being pretty honest about the whole situation.
Then Lyon brought up the fact that Goddard hadn't laid a tackle in two weeks. Goddard fumbled around, explaining that tackles weren't the only measure of effort.
I thought it was a brave line of questioning. But Goddard did a reasonable job of answering it - but...no tackles in two weeks?
Lyon's right (even though he didn't quite say it), Goddard is a part of the problem.

I think Goddard and Heppell are huge parts of the problem. From the outside looking in they have no leadership at all! Goodard refusing to stand anyone and/or apply any pressure what so ever and Heppell is nothing short of a sheep dog.

Until they expose some young lads coming through the 2's the future looks very bleak for the Dons

f@#k me if Shaun McKernan is getting a game they are in real deep shit.....

Spot on.

Jim05 wrote:

Bombers4EVA wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Neeld has jumped before he was pushed. Has been nothing but trouble and the cause of much infighting at the club.

What you mean by him being the cause of the infighting at the club Jim??

Much of our current game plan development is his and it’s caused plenty of fighting amongst players and other assistants. He was given too much power, so much so that on game days he won’t listen to the other assistants and is the only one allowed to discuss tactics with Worsfold

Bit of a Chicken and Egg situation - If Neeld's style of football he (and Woosha) wants the club to play isn't popular with the players, the easy way is to move 1 person (Neeld) on, but the right way is to get the players to do as they're instructed.

As others have mentioned, Goddard (from a purely outsiders perspective) looks a big part of the problem. He can't have helped the morale there, and whilst he's a highly experienced footballer, he's not the player he once was, and he doesn't display the maturity you'd expect of someone with his age/experience.

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting interview between Garry Lyon and Brendan Goddard on SEN this morning.
Goddard talking about players not doing the basics and their effort is down. And they're aware of it. He was being pretty honest about the whole situation.
Then Lyon brought up the fact that Goddard hadn't laid a tackle in two weeks. Goddard fumbled around, explaining that tackles weren't the only measure of effort.
I thought it was a brave line of questioning. But Goddard did a reasonable job of answering it - but...no tackles in two weeks?
Lyon's right (even though he didn't quite say it), Goddard is a part of the problem.

Saw an interesting stat on twitter Dogwatcher mentioning how Goddard has zero tackles in 2 weeks but Shannon Hurn has only laid one over the past 2 weeks yet is being lauded this year as a revelation & one of the captains of the year.

Obviously other factors come in to play but its interesting how stats can be perceived.

David Brent wrote:

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting interview between Garry Lyon and Brendan Goddard on SEN this morning.
Goddard talking about players not doing the basics and their effort is down. And they're aware of it. He was being pretty honest about the whole situation.
Then Lyon brought up the fact that Goddard hadn't laid a tackle in two weeks. Goddard fumbled around, explaining that tackles weren't the only measure of effort.
I thought it was a brave line of questioning. But Goddard did a reasonable job of answering it - but...no tackles in two weeks?
Lyon's right (even though he didn't quite say it), Goddard is a part of the problem.

Saw an interesting stat on twitter Dogwatcher mentioning how Goddard has zero tackles in 2 weeks but Shannon Hurn has only laid one over the past 2 weeks yet is being lauded this year as a revelation & one of the captains of the year.

Obviously other factors come in to play but its interesting how stats can be perceived.

Yep, winning & not being a belittling, demonstrative flog certainly help.

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting interview between Garry Lyon and Brendan Goddard on SEN this morning.
Goddard talking about players not doing the basics and their effort is down. And they're aware of it. He was being pretty honest about the whole situation.
Then Lyon brought up the fact that Goddard hadn't laid a tackle in two weeks. Goddard fumbled around, explaining that tackles weren't the only measure of effort.
I thought it was a brave line of questioning. But Goddard did a reasonable job of answering it - but...no tackles in two weeks?
Lyon's right (even though he didn't quite say it), Goddard is a part of the problem.

Tackling is all mental and requires very little skill, Essendon are mentally shot, if I was coaching them Id be training contested work all week and the game plan would be solely around tackling and pressure on the ball carrier, simple. At least then you the members would see some effort and those that didn't would stand out like dogs balls.

Spargo wrote:

David Brent wrote:

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting interview between Garry Lyon and Brendan Goddard on SEN this morning.
Goddard talking about players not doing the basics and their effort is down. And they're aware of it. He was being pretty honest about the whole situation.
Then Lyon brought up the fact that Goddard hadn't laid a tackle in two weeks. Goddard fumbled around, explaining that tackles weren't the only measure of effort.
I thought it was a brave line of questioning. But Goddard did a reasonable job of answering it - but...no tackles in two weeks?
Lyon's right (even though he didn't quite say it), Goddard is a part of the problem.

Saw an interesting stat on twitter Dogwatcher mentioning how Goddard has zero tackles in 2 weeks but Shannon Hurn has only laid one over the past 2 weeks yet is being lauded this year as a revelation & one of the captains of the year.

Obviously other factors come in to play but its interesting how stats can be perceived.

Yep, winning & not being a belittling, demonstrative flog certainly help.

Agree with you both.
Interesting, during the interview, I'm pretty certain I heard Goddard say something along the lines of "not pointing fingers at anyone".

Dutchy wrote:
Tackling is all mental and requires very little skill, Essendon are mentally shot, if I was coaching them Id be training contested work all week and the game plan would be solely around tackling and pressure on the ball carrier, simple. At least then you the members would see some effort and those that didn't would stand out like dogs balls.

Not quite sure that I agree on that one, the tackling of today is very sloppy, very poor and something that most players at any level shirk if they can.

As a coach I used to spend a lot of time on correct tackling methods, it was scary as you didn't players injured but I was big on that aspect of the game, I wasn't the quickest player getting around so I made sure my tackles stuck and I retarded the ball player.

Dutchy wrote:

Dogwatcher wrote:Interesting interview between Garry Lyon and Brendan Goddard on SEN this morning.
Goddard talking about players not doing the basics and their effort is down. And they're aware of it. He was being pretty honest about the whole situation.
Then Lyon brought up the fact that Goddard hadn't laid a tackle in two weeks. Goddard fumbled around, explaining that tackles weren't the only measure of effort.
I thought it was a brave line of questioning. But Goddard did a reasonable job of answering it - but...no tackles in two weeks?
Lyon's right (even though he didn't quite say it), Goddard is a part of the problem.

Tackling is all mental and requires very little skill, Essendon are mentally shot, if I was coaching them Id be training contested work all week and the game plan would be solely around tackling and pressure on the ball carrier, simple. At least then you the members would see some effort and those that didn't would stand out like dogs balls.

Pretty sure they did that prior to the Hawthorn game

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Dutchy wrote:
Tackling is all mental and requires very little skill, Essendon are mentally shot, if I was coaching them Id be training contested work all week and the game plan would be solely around tackling and pressure on the ball carrier, simple. At least then you the members would see some effort and those that didn't would stand out like dogs balls.

Not quite sure that I agree on that one, the tackling of today is very sloppy, very poor and something that most players at any level shirk if they can.

As a coach I used to spend a lot of time on correct tackling methods, it was scary as you didn't players injured but I was big on that aspect of the game, I wasn't the quickest player getting around so I made sure my tackles stuck and I retarded the ball player.

Yeah agree there is method to an actual tackle and its important at junior level, I was more getting to the point of at AFL level they would all know how to tackle, but as I teach the kids I coach tackling starts in the head, if you don't have the tackling mindset you won't lay a proper tackle. Id suggest Essendon don't have that mindset currently.

IMO Tackling starts in the mind, extends to the boy and finishes with the arms, so many juniors do it in the reverse order and that's how they get injured.

The skill that impresses me the most in regard to tackling is knowing when your oponent has or has not got the ball when you're tackling from behind and the person you're tackling's body obscures youe vision of where the ball is. Its something I could never master and gave away more free kicks than zi should have for "holding on".

75,000 paid up members and still a chance to get to 80,000. Imagine if we were any good and weren’t constrained by our Etihad deal

Jim05 wrote:Imagine if we weren’t constrained by our Etihad deal