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Europe?

Where did this chat originate from?

A few players had a few days in Hong Kong, a few went home to various parts of Australia.

They left Shanghai on Sunday and had to be at training on the Thursday. Europe.

Dutchy wrote:Im coming to the conclusion that Port are very poorly coached, they have the talent in their squad to win games like yesterday yet cannot seem to put it all together. They should have been running all over the Hawks on the last 1/4 yesterday but looked like they were out on their feet. Be interested in Port fan's views on how they are coached.

Firstly, the competition is very even, more so than ever before perhaps. West Coast, Melbourne and Richmond at the top, Carlton and Brisbane at the bottom and the rest, on their day, could beat any of the others. Maybe only Gold Coast excluded from that.

Port's coaching? Growing frustrated. We've beaten Sydney in Sydney and North at Etihad without either side looking like they were going to trouble us. Pretty much controlled both games without too many problems. Both of them without Ryder in the side, the one who creates so much of our clearance work.

Why? In both games we played our football, front half football. We like to get the ball into our F50 then lock it in and with repeat entries score from there. Why we go away from this game style to "suit" the style our opposition plays I don't know. I just don't know why we focus so heavily on the oppositions style compared what works for us.

Against Sydney 52 I50's, 14 goals, against North 51 I50's, 15 goals, against Hawthorn 38 I50's, 9 goals.

The Hawthorn result because we spent so much time fart arsing around in defence, so much time chipping the ball around half back allowing the Hawks to set up their zones behind the ball and allowing Siciliy to take intercept marks galore. He had a field day as he got loose in the back half.

I'm frustrated with our coaching group.

heater31 wrote:Can understand a short holiday within Australia, essentially recovery and maintain fitness. Long haul overseas trips is just dumb from the players, given the timeframe you would be spending just about as much time in the air as on the ground.

Pretty much.

Dutchy wrote:Im coming to the conclusion that Port are very poorly coached, they have the talent in their squad to win games like yesterday yet cannot seem to put it all together. They should have been running all over the Hawks on the last 1/4 yesterday but looked like they were out on their feet. Be interested in Port fan's views on how they are coached.

I agree, play the wrong game plan for the cattle in the paddock.

Booney wrote:
Against Sydney 52 I50's, 14 goals, against North 51 I50's, 15 goals, against Hawthorn 38 I50's, 9 goals.

The Hawthorn result because we spent so much time fart arsing around in defence, so much time chipping the ball around half back allowing the Hawks to set up their zones behind the ball and allowing Siciliy to take intercept marks galore. He had a field day as he got loose in the back half.

I'm frustrated with our coaching group.

This mirrors what I saw at Noarlunga yesterday, unsurprisingly I guess, they seem to be trying to perfect a possession style game.

Dutchy wrote:

Booney wrote:
Against Sydney 52 I50's, 14 goals, against North 51 I50's, 15 goals, against Hawthorn 38 I50's, 9 goals.

The Hawthorn result because we spent so much time fart arsing around in defence, so much time chipping the ball around half back allowing the Hawks to set up their zones behind the ball and allowing Siciliy to take intercept marks galore. He had a field day as he got loose in the back half.

I'm frustrated with our coaching group.

This mirrors what I saw at Noarlunga yesterday, unsurprisingly I guess, they seem to be trying to perfect a possession style game.

Read what I wrote a few pages back about Port v North at Alberton last week. It was clear what they were trying to do, it was clear they couldn't or at least shouldn't have been!

Pittard played well yesterday, should be automatically back this week. Barry was OK, Frampton seems to be going backwards, remember being pretty impressed with him last year. Hayes looks like he will develop into a nice prospect.

Dutchy wrote:Pittard played well yesterday, should be automatically back this week. Barry was OK, Frampton seems to be going backwards, remember being pretty impressed with him last year. Hayes looks like he will develop into a nice prospect.

I was excited by what Frampton showed through patches of 2017, I could see him really pushed as a viable option this year to add to our forward / ruck rotations. Unfortunately he's stalled and Hayes has, in his first season, already seemingly over taken him.

Hayes looks very promising.

If port misses the finals this year, is Kenny in strife?

woodublieve12 wrote:If port misses the finals this year, is Kenny in strife?

With 3 years to go, no, I doubt it.

Booney wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:If port misses the finals this year, is Kenny in strife?

With 3 years to go, no, I doubt it.

yeah cause a club has never broken a contract on a coach before

woodublieve12 wrote:

Booney wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:If port misses the finals this year, is Kenny in strife?

With 3 years to go, no, I doubt it.

yeah cause a club has never broken a contract on a coach before

You can, if you've got the folding in the pocket to pay them out.

woodublieve12 wrote:
yeah cause a club has never broken a contract on a coach before

Wouldn't have lasted the last time everyone was calling for his axing if this was the case.

I always thought Port would win a few games they shouldn't and lose some they should've won this year, I didn't have high expectations, I bottom half finish and a full on attack for the holy grail next season was in my mind.

I guess he bought some time when he recruited heavily.

woodublieve12 wrote:

Booney wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:If port misses the finals this year, is Kenny in strife?

With 3 years to go, no, I doubt it.

yeah cause a club has never broken a contract on a coach before

if he went then KT and Kochie would need to follow him out the door.

Lightning McQueen wrote:I didn't have high expectations, bottom half finish.

You’re in the extreme minority of the Port supporters I’ve heard & know. All the talk was top 4, have a tilt at the flag.
Missing the finals would be major step backwards.

Dutchy wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:

Booney wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:If port misses the finals this year, is Kenny in strife?

With 3 years to go, no, I doubt it.

yeah cause a club has never broken a contract on a coach before

if he went then KT and Kochie would need to follow him out the door.

Yep, eerily similar to us. Recruited heavily as we overrated our list and thought we were close and then extended the coaches contract when it wasn’t warranted. Now we can’t sack the coach because it would mean the board would have to admit they are incompetent

Spargo wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:I didn't have high expectations, bottom half finish.

You’re in the extreme minority of the Port supporters I’ve heard & know. All the talk was top 4, have a tilt at the flag.
Missing the finals would be major step backwards.

And rightly so, they should be better than what they have shown. Question marks around the coaching staff now.

good thing Ken promotes exciting footy and has entertaining press conferences hey Boon. Should be a major factor in his employment?

I'm not hitting the panic button, yet.

Big few weeks ahead though. Richmond, Bulldogs, Melbourne.

6-4 now, I'd expect to be 7-6 after those three weeks and in the race for the bottom half of the 8 like 6 or 8 other sides.

woodublieve12 wrote:good thing Ken promotes exciting footy and has entertaining press conferences hey Boon. Should be a major factor in his employment?

You watch Hinkley's pressers?