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Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:25 pm
by MW
stan wrote:
MW wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Swans trade Dawson to the Crows for Melbourne’s future first


And this will end up at port for ladhams.
Something for the media to salivate on all year
So probably is like pick 16 - 18. Unless Melbourne make a mess of next season somehow, which I doubt.

Really for Sydney it's Dawson for Ladhams. Whilst Ladhams is a good player, and I guess fills a need l, still reckon Dawson adds more.


They have lost big time Sydney if that is their end result. They'd be hoping something else comes back from Port for pick 16-18 for Ladhams. I understand Port will pay a heap of his salary which might be the sweetner.

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:23 am
by Brodlach
Anyone else think the Dawson trade was done a while ago but not processed by the AFL to create trade week drama?

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:31 am
by MW
Brodlach wrote:Anyone else think the Dawson trade was done a while ago but not processed by the AFL to create trade week drama?


The AFL manufacture things to stay relevant in the media? Naaaaaaaaa

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:31 am
by DOC
Yep.

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:32 am
by Booney
They didn't do a very good job if that's what they tried to do.

One of the most uneventful trade periods in a long time, wonder why so little movement?

You can't tell me there's 18 clubs happy with their list exactly as it is.

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:40 am
by Jim05
Booney wrote:They didn't do a very good job if that's what they tried to do.

One of the most uneventful trade periods in a long time, wonder why so little movement?

You can't tell me there's 18 clubs happy with their list exactly as it is.
Combination of things IMO.
Many don’t think this draft bats too deeply and clubs not really keen to get amongst the draft. Also not a real lot of quality FA’s and the players under contract will cost far too much

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:56 am
by Booney
Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:They didn't do a very good job if that's what they tried to do.

One of the most uneventful trade periods in a long time, wonder why so little movement?

You can't tell me there's 18 clubs happy with their list exactly as it is.
Combination of things IMO.
Many don’t think this draft bats too deeply and clubs not really keen to get amongst the draft. Also not a real lot of quality FA’s and the players under contract will cost far too much


The draft might be a ripper, but we don't know because Vic kids have played around 8 games in 2 years.

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:02 am
by Armchair expert
"Salary cap squeeze"

There will be more deals done today than the last 2 weeks

But this has kept AFL in the news for another 2 weeks

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:56 am
by stan
MW wrote:
stan wrote:
MW wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Swans trade Dawson to the Crows for Melbourne’s future first


And this will end up at port for ladhams.
Something for the media to salivate on all year
So probably is like pick 16 - 18. Unless Melbourne make a mess of next season somehow, which I doubt.

Really for Sydney it's Dawson for Ladhams. Whilst Ladhams is a good player, and I guess fills a need l, still reckon Dawson adds more.


They have lost big time Sydney if that is their end result. They'd be hoping something else comes back from Port for pick 16-18 for Ladhams. I understand Port will pay a heap of his salary which might be the sweetner.
Yeah that's sort of what I'm getting at but if Sydney can maybe on pay a 2nd rounder for Ladhams then that might bring it back to there favour a bit.

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:03 am
by Brodlach
Ladhams is not worth a pick in the teens or twenties

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:41 am
by Booney
Brodlach wrote:Ladhams is not worth a pick in the teens or twenties


Teens, no, twenties, yes. 25-29 would be right I reckon.

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:43 am
by MW
Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Ladhams is not worth a pick in the teens or twenties


Teens, no, twenties, yes. 25-29 would be right I reckon.


They have 31 don't they the swans? Might be the only pick that could work esp if Syd pay his full salary

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:46 am
by Brodlach
Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Ladhams is not worth a pick in the teens or twenties


Teens, no, twenties, yes. 25-29 would be right I reckon.

For me 30-40

Doesn’t take contested marks which is a must for a ruckman

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:47 am
by Booney
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Ladhams is not worth a pick in the teens or twenties


Teens, no, twenties, yes. 25-29 would be right I reckon.


They have 31 don't they the swans? Might be the only pick that could work esp if Syd pay his full salary


I reckon they'll give us the Dawson / Melbourne pick and we'll pay some of his salary and a future 4th rounder.

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:48 am
by MW
No way Sydney will do that IMO but if they do, well done Port.

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:02 am
by Booney
So Ladhams and 16 for 12 and 31 with Ladhams forgoing his last year at Port payments with a new deal at Sydney.

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:04 am
by MW
Booney wrote:So Ladhams and 16 for 12 and 31 with Ladhams forgoing his last year at Port payments with a new deal at Sydney.


That seems fair

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:07 am
by Brodlach
16 for 12 pretty even

Ladhams for 31 sounds ok

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:10 am
by Dutchy
Ladhams is still very young for a ruckman at 23 so big upside if they can get him right, could be their lead ruck for the next decade, be interesting to see how he fits in at Sydney

Re: 2021 Trade rumours and discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:12 am
by Booney
Yep, 16 to 12 for Port is a little win, Ladhams for 31 is a little win for Sydney and the circuit breaker is Ladhams doesn't take is $400k from his last year to make it all happen.

I reckon it's about right.

At the moment Port Adelaide have 16, 63, 73, 74, 92, so making that 12,31,63,73,74,92 looks better.