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Booney wrote:1-2 this year on the back of 2022 and the end of 2021.....it's not a small sample size that's being analyzed.

Ronnie wrote:Tredrea doing his best to revive his media career.

Booney wrote:1-2 this year on the back of 2022 and the end of 2021.....it's not a small sample size that's being analyzed.

Booney wrote:1-2 this year on the back of 2022 and the end of 2021.....it's not a small sample size that's being analyzed.

Vamos wrote:If Carr was bought in to be the successor as rumoured I'd be concerned we're setting him up for fail by appointing him now or mid season. How many caretakers have been able to impart their gameplan with limited prep and show actual results. And then go on to get the head role at seasons end?

Vamos wrote:If Carr was bought in to be the successor as rumoured I'd be concerned we're setting him up for fail by appointing him now or mid season. How many caretakers have been able to impart their gameplan with limited prep and show actual results. And then go on to get the head role at seasons end?

tigerpie wrote:

Ronnie wrote:Tredrea doing his best to revive his media career.

He's bloody awful!
How he kept his job attempting to read an autocue badly on 9 is beyond me.

Armchair expert wrote:

Vamos wrote:If Carr was bought in to be the successor as rumoured I'd be concerned we're setting him up for fail by appointing him now or mid season. How many caretakers have been able to impart their gameplan with limited prep and show actual results. And then go on to get the head role at seasons end?

A few but only Roos has won a premiership

Caretakers who got the head role:
Peter Rohde (who) = ?
Rhys Shaw = Disaster
Teague = Terrible
Paul Roos = Massive Success
Neil Craig = Servicable
Primus = Disaster
Mark Harvey = Disaster
Ratten x2 = Knifed once and Disaster the next time round

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/ ... /101253378

Brodlach wrote:

tigerpie wrote:

Ronnie wrote:Tredrea doing his best to revive his media career.

He's bloody awful!
How he kept his job attempting to read an autocue badly on 9 is beyond me.

I actually don’t mind him, at least he is both critical and praising when he needs to unlike others who disappear during the losses

MW wrote:The sooner people realise Kane is a paid opinion the better you will be. He will never front when wrong, but always highlight when he is right. It's in the Cornes blood.
Took me a while to stop getting annoyed by him.

Booney wrote:Credit to the winners, too good on the night and the young guns at West Lakes look to have some bright futures ahead of them.

The saddest indictment on this club at the moment is heading into games with either emotional attachment ( Ebert tribute, Showdown ) or reward for effort ( finals ) I as a member and supporter arrive with hope, not with confidence.

The body of work under this coach suggests the game plan breaks down under the weight of expectation and the results reflect that. A game plan that once worked.

It wasn’t without opportunity on Saturday night though yet some worrying trends continue to emerge.

Early in the last term Willem Drew had the opportunity to bring Port within 3 points, missing a sitter from 25m out right in front. In turn Fantasia goaled with his first kick of the game and ( spoiler ) Best on for Port Sam Powell-Pepper had his third for the night and with 10 minutes of the last term gone Port lead by 4 points on the back of some midfield pressure. Four times in the early stages of the last term the midfield created forward entries, Fantasia’s goal from a midfield intercept. Here and now the momentum is sitting with Port Adelaide. The momentum swing in the next 20 minutes reflective of one of the major problems Port currently face, teams getting a run on and we’re not capable of stopping it.

In round 1 Brisbane kicked 6 of 7 goals either side of quarter time, against Collingwood runs of 9 goals early and 6 late in the game, Adelaide posted 4 in the second term and kicked 8 of the last 10. Our ability to stop sides scoring, once our 1 wood through 2020/21 is now a glaring weakness.

Defensively we’re in disarray. Captain Jonas has had a howler of a first month, the game has shifted in the last few years as the third tall becomes more mobile, playing more as a high half forward than resting ruckman in the pocket and Jonas doesn’t have the closing speed he once had, his third man into the contest role is having no impact. McKenzie and Clurey fight out for the lock down big man, Clurey gave Walker a bath Saturday night but with only 3 touches he created no offence from the back and we’re not really sure which one should be in the role from week to week. Byrne-Jones is clinging to his spot, his AA year of 2020 was on the back of dash and dare from the back half, he’s got none of that and can’t hit a target. Aliir is feeling pressure from offensive pressure players and whilst he’s playing his role he too is nowhere near as effective as he was.

Frustratingly the future of that back half, Jake Pasini is yet to be sighted, Jase Burgoyne is the SANFL and Lachie Jones is becoming more and more confused after starting his career in defence, ending last year in attack then spending the summer in the midfield. Don’t under estimate the loss of Burton to suspension, the natural match up for Rankine was missing and he’d be feeling dead set ordinary, a careless tackle cost him two weeks and might have had a difference on Saturday night had he been there.

That 1 wood, the defensive zone, so impenetrable during 2020/21 created multiple forward 50 entries, often frustrated by the continual bombing in time after time Port fans grew tired of that type of entry, but it worked. Nobody won more games in that two year period than Port and it was on the back of those repeat entries. It was often ugly, but it got the job done. 2020, third for inside 50’s, least points against. 2021, fourth for inside 50’s, 4th for points against. It worked.

Now that the zone is breaking down the back half isn’t creating those repeat entries the forward line dries up and the opposition get the run on that we can’t stop.

Selection has me baffled, too.

We can’t play Lycett, Dixon and Finlayson in the one side. With Marshall forward the mix is too top heavy. Marshall, Dixon and Finlayson looks too tall in the front 50, Georgiades offers the mobile third tall ( as mentioned above ) and that looks more balanced, we need to persist with Georgiades as we did with Marshall. It may pay off just as well. It’s Lycett or Finlayson for mine, not both. Jones needs to play back, he can be the player Byrne-Jones used to be and should be in that role. The skipper is under pressure, heir apparent Pasini needs to be exposed at this level and he needs game time. Development of all the talls on our list is now the most pressing in 2023. Hayes, Teakle, Lord, Visentini ( I’m the #1 ticket holder on the Visentini train ), Kyle Marshall, Scully, there’s height galore and one of them, or more, needs to come into the back half to sure up the tall defenders.

Out coached on the night as Nicks threw Dawson into the middle ( why does he not play there every week? ), Sloane when the whips were cracking and Laird killed us on the spread, Adelaide’s small forwards had the pace to out run and the tall, Thilthorpe, had nobody capable of going with him in the air.

I feel sick. Again.

Boon’s best – Powell-Pepper, Dixon, Rozee, Houston.

Ronnie wrote:Tredrea doing his best to revive his media career.

cracka wrote:

Booney wrote:Credit to the winners, too good on the night and the young guns at West Lakes look to have some bright futures ahead of them.

The saddest indictment on this club at the moment is heading into games with either emotional attachment ( Ebert tribute, Showdown ) or reward for effort ( finals ) I as a member and supporter arrive with hope, not with confidence.

The body of work under this coach suggests the game plan breaks down under the weight of expectation and the results reflect that. A game plan that once worked.

It wasn’t without opportunity on Saturday night though yet some worrying trends continue to emerge.

Early in the last term Willem Drew had the opportunity to bring Port within 3 points, missing a sitter from 25m out right in front. In turn Fantasia goaled with his first kick of the game and ( spoiler ) Best on for Port Sam Powell-Pepper had his third for the night and with 10 minutes of the last term gone Port lead by 4 points on the back of some midfield pressure. Four times in the early stages of the last term the midfield created forward entries, Fantasia’s goal from a midfield intercept. Here and now the momentum is sitting with Port Adelaide. The momentum swing in the next 20 minutes reflective of one of the major problems Port currently face, teams getting a run on and we’re not capable of stopping it.

In round 1 Brisbane kicked 6 of 7 goals either side of quarter time, against Collingwood runs of 9 goals early and 6 late in the game, Adelaide posted 4 in the second term and kicked 8 of the last 10. Our ability to stop sides scoring, once our 1 wood through 2020/21 is now a glaring weakness.

Defensively we’re in disarray. Captain Jonas has had a howler of a first month, the game has shifted in the last few years as the third tall becomes more mobile, playing more as a high half forward than resting ruckman in the pocket and Jonas doesn’t have the closing speed he once had, his third man into the contest role is having no impact. McKenzie and Clurey fight out for the lock down big man, Clurey gave Walker a bath Saturday night but with only 3 touches he created no offence from the back and we’re not really sure which one should be in the role from week to week. Byrne-Jones is clinging to his spot, his AA year of 2020 was on the back of dash and dare from the back half, he’s got none of that and can’t hit a target. Aliir is feeling pressure from offensive pressure players and whilst he’s playing his role he too is nowhere near as effective as he was.

Frustratingly the future of that back half, Jake Pasini is yet to be sighted, Jase Burgoyne is the SANFL and Lachie Jones is becoming more and more confused after starting his career in defence, ending last year in attack then spending the summer in the midfield. Don’t under estimate the loss of Burton to suspension, the natural match up for Rankine was missing and he’d be feeling dead set ordinary, a careless tackle cost him two weeks and might have had a difference on Saturday night had he been there.

That 1 wood, the defensive zone, so impenetrable during 2020/21 created multiple forward 50 entries, often frustrated by the continual bombing in time after time Port fans grew tired of that type of entry, but it worked. Nobody won more games in that two year period than Port and it was on the back of those repeat entries. It was often ugly, but it got the job done. 2020, third for inside 50’s, least points against. 2021, fourth for inside 50’s, 4th for points against. It worked.

Now that the zone is breaking down the back half isn’t creating those repeat entries the forward line dries up and the opposition get the run on that we can’t stop.

Selection has me baffled, too.

We can’t play Lycett, Dixon and Finlayson in the one side. With Marshall forward the mix is too top heavy. Marshall, Dixon and Finlayson looks too tall in the front 50, Georgiades offers the mobile third tall ( as mentioned above ) and that looks more balanced, we need to persist with Georgiades as we did with Marshall. It may pay off just as well. It’s Lycett or Finlayson for mine, not both. Jones needs to play back, he can be the player Byrne-Jones used to be and should be in that role. The skipper is under pressure, heir apparent Pasini needs to be exposed at this level and he needs game time. Development of all the talls on our list is now the most pressing in 2023. Hayes, Teakle, Lord, Visentini ( I’m the #1 ticket holder on the Visentini train ), Kyle Marshall, Scully, there’s height galore and one of them, or more, needs to come into the back half to sure up the tall defenders.

Out coached on the night as Nicks threw Dawson into the middle ( why does he not play there every week? ), Sloane when the whips were cracking and Laird killed us on the spread, Adelaide’s small forwards had the pace to out run and the tall, Thilthorpe, had nobody capable of going with him in the air.

I feel sick. Again.

Boon’s best – Powell-Pepper, Dixon, Rozee, Houston.

Watched the replay last night to make sure I wasn't going mad & Alir was definitely playing on Walker for most of the night. Clurey took 1 contested mark against Walker in the 1st quarter when Alir was caught out of position.
Gives a totally different perspective watching TV coverage v live. We were in the southern pocket behind the goal line so couldn't really see which players were doing what when play was at the northern end. After watching the replay I thought top 5 players in no particular order were Rankine, Thilthorpe, Laird, Rozee, Powell-Pepper & mention for O'Brien & Dixon (that guy is huge). Dawson played well but lucky to get the medal imo.

Booney wrote:I had 17 beers on the night.

Spargo wrote:

Booney wrote:I had 17 beers on the night.

Underperformed like your team…

Booney wrote:

Spargo wrote:

Booney wrote:I had 17 beers on the night.

Underperformed like your team…

Proper pints*