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Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 4:14 pm
by Spargo
Dutchy wrote:
Booney wrote:North Melbourne has appointed co-captains - Jy Simpkin and Luke McDonald


ffs

Yep.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:59 pm
by MW
Spargo wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Booney wrote:North Melbourne has appointed co-captains - Jy Simpkin and Luke McDonald


ffs

Yep.


Is it really that big of a deal?
If you're 6-5 at the mid point of 2023, you won't even notice

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:34 pm
by Dutchy
Ive always hated co-captains, reeks of a club that cant make a tough decision of one over the other.

That being said, if you are ever going to do it maybe when you are the bottom like us it can only help? When we get back into contention I certainly hope we are back to one captain.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:06 pm
by gadj1976
Dutchy wrote:Ive always hated co-captains, reeks of a club that cant make a tough decision of one over the other.

That being said, if you are ever going to do it maybe when you are the bottom like us it can only help? When we get back into contention I certainly hope we are back to one captain.


We did it a few years ago and to me, it doesn't make an iota of difference. I thought our club shared the responsibility between someone who was a little bit more media savvy and someone who was really good at leading the team. That sometimes isn't one person.

Interestingly, my thoughts were confirmed when Cripps won the Brownlow and made a speech saying he hated the media early on and didn't know what to say. I recall Docherty doing most of the media that year in place of Cripps.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:38 am
by Lightning McQueen
MW wrote:
Spargo wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Booney wrote:North Melbourne has appointed co-captains - Jy Simpkin and Luke McDonald


ffs

Yep.


Is it really that big of a deal?
If you're 6-5 at the mid point of 2023, you won't even notice


I can't see us, you guys or North being 5-6 at the mid point.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:44 am
by whufc
gadj1976 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Ive always hated co-captains, reeks of a club that cant make a tough decision of one over the other.

That being said, if you are ever going to do it maybe when you are the bottom like us it can only help? When we get back into contention I certainly hope we are back to one captain.


We did it a few years ago and to me, it doesn't make an iota of difference. I thought our club shared the responsibility between someone who was a little bit more media savvy and someone who was really good at leading the team. That sometimes isn't one person.

Interestingly, my thoughts were confirmed when Cripps won the Brownlow and made a speech saying he hated the media early on and didn't know what to say. I recall Docherty doing most of the media that year in place of Cripps.


Agree in this day and age of clubs having leadership groups, selection panels, line coaches and the list goes on the captain is pretty much just a figure head to the outside world.

I think the modern day captains role is to obviously play in a manner that leads from the front, but more so to buy into what the multitude of coaches are trying to achieve and advocate for that. Essentially be the glue that holds the players and coaches close.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:04 am
by am Bays
I sometimes think the role of dual captains is more for the off-field stuff, coterie groups and media to share the load so it isnt a burden on one player, particularly for a club like North which is on a five year development /improvement plan.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:23 am
by Booney
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/01/24/ ... e-to-miss/

It was impossible not to notice the hypocrisy at North Melbourne this week after Tarryn Thomas fell foul of the law again.

Last week, it emerged that Thomas had been charged with threatening to distribute an intimate image.

And Thomas was also separately stopped by police when driving with a suspended license during the Kangaroos' Christmas break.

It seems serious, doesn't it?

Not when you read the statement released by the club:

"The club has informed the AFL's Integrity Unit and the AFLPA on both matters, and the club will continue to work with Thomas regarding behavioural expectations."

No suspension from training, no announcement of him being banned for several games this year, and no statement about him working in a community program. No one in a leadership position at the Kangaroos publicly condemned his actions. That was it.

Yesterday new captain Luke McDonald was gushing in his praise for Thomas, saying: "He's a great kid and is as talented as anyone on our list, and we're going to be there for him, no matter what. He's a great kid, and we're going to help him through this journey he's on.

"He's been doing a lot of work with the backline, and gee whiz, he's been super down there. It's a big year for the whole footy club, but if we can get Tarryn out there for 23 games, that's going to make a big difference to our side."

It's not Thomas' first indiscretion, either. Thomas' car was impounded in July when he was checked at a booze bus site and found not to have a valid licence.

Police confirmed a 22-year-old man was found to have been driving on a suspended licence. He was also caught up in a police investigation amid allegations of malicious behaviour to a former partner.

Last season he lashed out at a fan on social media, mocking them for how much money he makes. It's quite the rap sheet.

If only Jason Horne-Francis, the club's most talented player since Wayne Carey, was given the same support as Thomas.

Remember when Horne-Francis was dropped last year for failing to complete a post-game ice bath?

After trading him to Port Adelaide, the club said they couldn't trust his mindset.

"We know everything that has occurred this year, we've got all this information at hand and a lot of people don't and our decision to facilitate the trade for Jason to go home was based on all the information we've got at hand." North's Brady Rawlings said.

I didn't hear or read anything from outspoken North Melbourne forward Cam Zurhaar condemning the behaviour of Thomas either. Remember, Zurhaar was quick to mock Horne-Francis when he left the club and was spotted training in the off-season still in his North Melbourne singlet.

Horne-Francis wasn't under police investigation. He didn't lose his license, he didn't drive without a license, and wasn't arrested or charged with a crime. He missed an ice bath. He was homesick and he played like a frustrated teenager at a poor football club.

I expected a strong public response from president Sonja Hood and new CEO Jennifer Watt, which sends a message that this kind of behaviour and treatment of women won't be tolerated.

Instead, the club is excited to see Thomas, who they tell us is a great kid, play in his new position across half back.

The hypocrisy is impossible to miss.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:44 am
by MW
*grabs popcorn and hitting refresh button*

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:45 am
by Dutchy
Kane = new Caro

TT has grown up at North, JHF had that opportunity and left, how he handles the fishbowl of Adelaide is going to be fascinating.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:15 am
by Brodlach
Would Kane have the same opinion of JHF if he lobbed at Adelaide.

No way. He is even more biased than Stephen Rowe.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:15 am
by Armchair expert
Brodlach wrote:Would Kane have the same opinion of JHF is he lobbed at Adelaide.

No way.


All of a sudden he loves long term deals

if they involve Port

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:20 am
by Booney
Interesting that nobody *so far* has been able to really convince me Cornes is wrong.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:22 am
by Spargo
Armchair expert wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Would Kane have the same opinion of JHF is he lobbed at Adelaide.

No way.


All of a sudden he loves long term deals

if they involve Port

As Cornes said, “the hypocrisy is hard to miss” :lol:

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:23 am
by Brodlach
Which part?

Thomas
JHF
Long term deals
Port

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:51 am
by amber_fluid
Wow how he escaped a club penalty is crazy.
Imagine if that was Tex that did it?
It’d be front page news.

You can penalise him and educate and support him at the same time but by not penalising him you’re saying it’s ok what he did.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:58 am
by Brodlach
Tex gets what he deserves sometimes

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:04 am
by amber_fluid
Brodlach wrote:Tex gets what he deserves sometimes


Agree.
My point was more that Thomas deserves a penalty as well.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:05 am
by Lightning McQueen
amber_fluid wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Tex gets what he deserves sometimes


Agree.
My point was more that Thomas deserves a penalty as well.

I think being called Tarryn is enough.

Re: North Melbourne

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:06 am
by Brodlach
amber_fluid wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Tex gets what he deserves sometimes


Agree.
My point was more that Thomas deserves a penalty as well.



Has North said there is no punishment or has it just not been announced?

Couldn’t imagine Clarkson not putting his foot down.