by MW » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:42 pm
by Psyber » Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:04 pm
by Spargo » Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:08 pm
MW wrote:With st George and westies I could go winless this year...
by Rik E Boy » Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:44 pm
Eagles2014 wrote:Crows will be bottom two I think. Sums up where they are at when Crocker and Keays get delisted by their clubs but are the in the Crows best 22?
Had three and five possessions at three quarter time. Not blaming them as another 15 players as bad as them, but shows if they are relying on players like that who were not up to this level at their previous club, then it’s going to be a very long year!
by MW » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:40 pm
Spargo wrote:MW wrote:With st George and westies I could go winless this year...
Looks like your Dragons might get the win...
by stan » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:59 pm
If your going to have a really shit season, this is the season to do it.MW wrote:Spargo wrote:MW wrote:With st George and westies I could go winless this year...
Looks like your Dragons might get the win...
Well f..k me... miracles do happen
by Booney » Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:52 am
stan wrote:If your going to have a really shit season, this is the season to do it.MW wrote:Spargo wrote:MW wrote:With st George and westies I could go winless this year...
Looks like your Dragons might get the win...
Well f..k me... miracles do happen
I reckon the crows members will handle a few years of pain if they see the rebuild actually happening. By that I mean playing the young players espically there recent first rounders. If you getting smashed each week and playing guys like Atkins, Keays and Crocker in front of those kids then well, brace yourselves and buy some of Ports tarps.
by stan » Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:49 am
Booney wrote:If your going to have a really shit season, this is the season to do it.stan wrote:MW wrote:Spargo wrote:[quote="MW"]With st George and westies I could go winless this year...
Looks like your Dragons might get the win...
Well f..k me... miracles do happen
I reckon the crows members will handle a few years of pain if they see the rebuild actually happening. By that I mean playing the young players espically there recent first rounders. If you getting smashed each week and playing guys like Atkins, Keays and Crocker in front of those kids then well, brace yourselves and buy some of Ports tarps.
by Booney » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:12 am
stan wrote:Good question and to be honest i don't know there list well enough but I would say playing Jones and McHenry for a start and not dropping them. But it's no use playing out of a forward pocket then off the bench. Jones needs to be up around he ball, same with McHenry. Get them involved. Get Jones on the wing instead of Aktins for example. Otherwise they keep playing and get there hands on the ball only 8 - 10 times a game. They need to get more involved.
Also probably Scholl, Butts and Davis need to be given some time as well.
That's probably all I have at the moment.
by stan » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:54 am
That why I have said they need Jones and McHenry up around the ball, these guys were recruited for that reason, but it seems the list management and development at the crows are working in silos.Booney wrote:stan wrote:Good question and to be honest i don't know there list well enough but I would say playing Jones and McHenry for a start and not dropping them. But it's no use playing out of a forward pocket then off the bench. Jones needs to be up around he ball, same with McHenry. Get them involved. Get Jones on the wing instead of Aktins for example. Otherwise they keep playing and get there hands on the ball only 8 - 10 times a game. They need to get more involved.
Also probably Scholl, Butts and Davis need to be given some time as well.
That's probably all I have at the moment.
It's a side effect of being at the top of the ladder for a few seasons, you don't get any high end talent and only the very well managed clubs can maintain that standard with smart recruiting in and out. Obviously it's easier to entice talent in while you're up the ladder ( think Richmond with Lynch, Hawthorn with several names ) and it hurts more losing top end talent that got you up to the ladder for little immediate return ( think Dangerfield, Cameron, Lever ).
There's also a distinct lack of pace in the Adelaide midfield ( nothing revolutionary in that news ) and the forward line looks slow with Walker and Fogarty in there and lacking a tall to compete in the air. Himmelberg or Frampton surely have to play to give them an aerial target.
by Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 15, 2020 10:55 am
by Booney » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:35 am
by Jim05 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:44 am
Yeah, tough position for them. Do they try and get something for the Crouch brothers while they are still worth something and hit the draft hard or are they happy to meander along for a few years. Personally I’d go the full slash and burn and test the waters with Lynch aswell as a couple othersBooney wrote:The ones who will struggle the most down there are McKay, Gibbs, Walker, Sloane, Lynch, Talia, these blokes are all 28+ and know the last 2-3 years of their playing days will be about bringing the next generation through and there's going to be some pain along the way. Will be hard to front up for a pre season knowing what lies ahead as a 30 year old.
by Dutchy » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:47 am
by Jim05 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:49 am
Geez, better get those Glenelg 3 peat shirts ordered ASAP [emoji23]Dutchy wrote:Gibbs still contracted for 2021 is going to hurt, mind you they will probably have the space in their cap that they can pay him out at the end of this year and set him free.
by daysofourlives » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:51 am
Jim05 wrote:Yeah, tough position for them. Do they try and get something for the Crouch brothers while they are still worth something and hit the draft hard or are they happy to meander along for a few years. Personally I’d go the full slash and burn and test the waters with Lynch aswell as a couple othersBooney wrote:The ones who will struggle the most down there are McKay, Gibbs, Walker, Sloane, Lynch, Talia, these blokes are all 28+ and know the last 2-3 years of their playing days will be about bringing the next generation through and there's going to be some pain along the way. Will be hard to front up for a pre season knowing what lies ahead as a 30 year old.
by Booney » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:52 am
by Booney » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:56 am
daysofourlives wrote:Jim05 wrote:Yeah, tough position for them. Do they try and get something for the Crouch brothers while they are still worth something and hit the draft hard or are they happy to meander along for a few years. Personally I’d go the full slash and burn and test the waters with Lynch aswell as a couple othersBooney wrote:The ones who will struggle the most down there are McKay, Gibbs, Walker, Sloane, Lynch, Talia, these blokes are all 28+ and know the last 2-3 years of their playing days will be about bringing the next generation through and there's going to be some pain along the way. Will be hard to front up for a pre season knowing what lies ahead as a 30 year old.
Talia is the one to move on along with Crouchs. Defenders are easy to find, its about the only thing the crows recruiting team can do, think Davis, Lever, Doedee in recent times and they drafted another last year in McCasey. Talia is also worth something to a team at the top.
I would only entertain moving Sloane on if he absolutely was 100% wanting to move on
by Jim05 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:57 am
by daysofourlives » Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:59 am
Booney wrote:daysofourlives wrote:Jim05 wrote:Yeah, tough position for them. Do they try and get something for the Crouch brothers while they are still worth something and hit the draft hard or are they happy to meander along for a few years. Personally I’d go the full slash and burn and test the waters with Lynch aswell as a couple othersBooney wrote:The ones who will struggle the most down there are McKay, Gibbs, Walker, Sloane, Lynch, Talia, these blokes are all 28+ and know the last 2-3 years of their playing days will be about bringing the next generation through and there's going to be some pain along the way. Will be hard to front up for a pre season knowing what lies ahead as a 30 year old.
Talia is the one to move on along with Crouchs. Defenders are easy to find, its about the only thing the crows recruiting team can do, think Davis, Lever, Doedee in recent times and they drafted another last year in McCasey. Talia is also worth something to a team at the top.
I would only entertain moving Sloane on if he absolutely was 100% wanting to move on
Sloane has 3 more years, hard to see 1) him wanting to move and 2) another club taking on a 3 year deal for him at 30.
I think they need to keep Talia, Hartigan isn't up to it and Kelly, Doedee are the third tall / play small if need be. McAsey looks like Keath in more ways than one so he might be the pillar down back to replace Talia.
Laird has the most market value I think, 26, year to run on his deal so it would have to be a trade, I'd be offering him up.
Knight, Atkins, McKay, Poholke, Galluci all out of contract this year, they've got 15 weeks left to get another deal.
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