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Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:34 pm
by GWW
tigerpie wrote:Seriously though, it should be players from 2000 to now if they are dinkum


FF Franklin, N Riewoldt, B Harvey
HF Swan, Tredrea, Hird
C S Black, Judd, Cousins
HB Ricciuto, Goodes, Buckley
FB Fletcher, Scarlett, McLeod

RUCK
Cox
Voss
Ablett

INT Joel Selwood, Pavlich, Wanganeen, Akermanis

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:55 pm
by bennymacca
not a bad team there!

wanganeen retired in 2006, not really sure he would make a 2000s only team of the century.

glass would have to be around the mark, but other than that i cant really fault the rest of the team.

as much as he is a dickhead, i think milne would also have to be around the mark, as the best small forward of the era, over 500 goals.

off the top of my head, others in consideration, matthew lloyd, luke hodge, aaron sandilands, scott pendlebury, simon goodwin, glenn archer


(originally thought paul kelly but he retired in 2002),

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:32 pm
by steakn
Jonathon Brown says hello

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:42 pm
by bennymacca
yep he is another one. does he beat tredrea riewoldt lloyd and franklin though?

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:43 pm
by dedja
Treadrea ... LOL

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:51 pm
by LaughingKookaburra
woodublieve12 wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:Adam Goodes would surely get a look in??


Another one that would get more accolades if he lived in Victoria. Not exactly underrated or whatever but compare him to james hird for instance, similar sort of player but better in almost every way.

i know i'm a little bit bias but i reckon goodes is better then Hird (just)... Goodes would have to be one of the most versitile footballers ever... Can play every position on the field..

2× AFL Premiership (2005, 2012)
2× Brownlow Medal (2003, 2006)
3× Bob Skilton Medal (2003, 2006, 2011)
4× All Australian (2003, 2006, 2009, 2011)
Sydney leading goalkicker 2009-11
Ron Evans Medal 1999
Indigenous Team of the Century



Goodes is better than Hird.

My best 5;

Ablett Snr.
Carey
Jnr
Williams
D.Jarman (Dunstall says he's the best he's played with and in that side that's good enough for me)

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:03 am
by LaughingKookaburra
dedja wrote:Treadrea ... LOL


Very very good player. Better than Reiwoldt, Pavlich but JB I dunno.....

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:03 am
by dedja
double LOL ...

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:56 am
by tigerpie
GWW wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Seriously though, it should be players from 2000 to now if they are dinkum


FF Franklin, N Riewoldt, B Harvey
HF Swan, Tredrea, Hird
C S Black, Judd, Cousins
HB Ricciuto, Goodes, Buckley
FB Fletcher, Scarlett, McLeod

RUCK
Cox
Voss
Ablett

INT Joel Selwood, Pavlich, Wanganeen, Akermanis


I agree with 21 of these , but Brown has Tredrea covered in all areas without a doubt.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:17 am
by GWW
dedja wrote:Treadrea ... LOL


All Australian 2001/2002/2003/2004.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:44 am
by Johno6
pavlich more versatile than goodes

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:06 am
by woodublieve12
Johno6 wrote:pavlich more versatile than goodes

no chance..

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:09 am
by bennymacca
Both probably the most versatile players in the last 10 years. But pav was only ever a pinch hitter on ball. And he couldn't ruck either.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:41 am
by GWW
Probably should have squeezed Kerr onto the bench somehow, too.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:43 am
by GWW
Personally, if I had a choice between Hird and Goodes, I would definitely select Hird.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:03 am
by daysofourlives
IMO Tredrea isnt anywhere near Pavlich. Infact you could pick a 2nd 22 and a 3rd and a 4th and Tredrea still wouldnt be in there.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:30 am
by bennymacca
I know goal kicking isnt the be-all and end all as to what makes you a great forward, but here is a list of goal kickers who mainly played in the 2000s

I left Carey and Lynch in there as they played until 2004, but I dont think they would be considered in a team of the 2000s.

And looking at the pure stats, days may have a point. Neitz, Fevola, Hall are ones that we havent mentioned that really should be.

Tredrea way way down on the list. And the fact that Pav has kicked more goals than him is even more interesting, given Pav played his first few seasons in the backline, and has had significant stints in the midfield too.


Wouldnt make a team of the 2000s, but I was also surprised at how many goals Bradshaw had kicked

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Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:39 am
by Phantom Gossiper
Richardson and Fevola are two names that really stand out for me on that list

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:38 pm
by Booney
LaughingKookaburra wrote:
dedja wrote:Treadrea ... LOL


Very very good player. Better than Reiwoldt, Pavlich but JB I dunno.....


dedja can't see North of Anzac Highway so take his opinion with a grain of salt.

Tredrea better the Reiwoldt, Pavlich, Brown? Splitting hairs to be honest. Tredrea, Brown and Reiwoldt have all at the peak of their careers been the go to man in the team who was at or near the top of the table. That's the mark of a truly great CHF IMO, one who is playing in one of the very best sides and although Pavlich is now in a team at the top of the table ( 2013 anyway ) he is simply a brilliant player and leader.

You'd be foolish to try and split the 4 of them or rank them in order.

Re: Herald Sun Team of the Century

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:44 pm
by Rik E Boy
Enright over Fletch in this century if you are fair dinkum.

regards,

REB