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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby bennymacca » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:00 pm

like i said. we have lost 3 prelims in the last decade or so. so the opportunities were there
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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby whufc » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:00 pm

Wedgie wrote:14th in a 17 team comp was pretty close to the bottom!


Is that Geelong??

I forgot they were carp at some point.
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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby whufc » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:02 pm

bennymacca wrote:like i said. we have lost 3 prelims in the last decade or so. so the opportunities were there


I reckon in only one of them 3 years were you considered a top two threat and serious premiership chance a bit like the Kangaroos in recent times.

And at the end of the day you are still on a 20 year drought.
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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby bennymacca » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:49 pm

whufc wrote:
bennymacca wrote:like i said. we have lost 3 prelims in the last decade or so. so the opportunities were there


I reckon in only one of them 3 years were you considered a top two threat and serious premiership chance a bit like the Kangaroos in recent times.

And at the end of the day you are still on a 20 year drought.


19 year ;)

Havent made a grand final in that time either. And richmond is the only team to have a longer time between grand final appearances
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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby whufc » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:41 pm

bennymacca wrote:
whufc wrote:
bennymacca wrote:like i said. we have lost 3 prelims in the last decade or so. so the opportunities were there


I reckon in only one of them 3 years were you considered a top two threat and serious premiership chance a bit like the Kangaroos in recent times.

And at the end of the day you are still on a 20 year drought.


19 year ;)

Havent made a grand final in that time either. And richmond is the only team to have a longer time between grand final appearances


It would be a very interesting conversation to have with a CEO of a club in regards to what they would see as the better job done by themselves.

Would it be a Collingwood situation of falling to the bottom twice yet snagging a premiership or being the Crows and being consistent over a long period of time without the ultimate success.
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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:46 pm

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bennymacca wrote:Crows have never bottomed out and now have a chance at a flag with no top 10 draft pick on their list.

It can be done.

Collingwood have tried to bring in established talent and failed.


Yeah but would you rather never bottom out but be on a 20 year premiership drought or have bottomed out twice in 10 years but have a premiership to show for it.

Look at the teams who have had dynasties and you have:

Hawthorn (had bottomed out in the early 2000's and once again look very much to be back with pack)
Sydney (hard to asses due to COLA advantages)
Geelong (had to a bit of luck with father/son picks initially to build their dynasty but have genuinely bucked the trend of bottoming out with great trading)

If the Western Bulldogs have a dynasty it will be on the back of bottoming out as well.

Swans haven't had a dynasty. Need to win multiple premierships to have one of those.
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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby Wedgie » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:46 pm

whufc wrote:
Wedgie wrote:14th in a 17 team comp was pretty close to the bottom!


Is that Geelong??

I forgot they were carp at some point.

Nah Adelaide in 2011 ai think. Geelong have only missed the finals once in the last ten or so years and we came 10th, one game out of the finals with a hard draw.
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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:11 pm

whufc wrote:
Wedgie wrote:14th in a 17 team comp was pretty close to the bottom!


Is that Geelong??

I forgot they were carp at some point.


As well you might. We have never finished lower than 12th.

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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:13 pm

Booney wrote:Would like to be in Melbournes review of the game this morning.

I wonder who talks to Viney about his last quarter? While his side gives up 5 unanswered goals he's running around telling Richmond players that they're wankers who don't know how to grab the ball. Maybe go get it yourself young man, maybe lead from the front.


He is bog average but we all know why Richmond won.

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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby stan » Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:14 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Booney wrote:Would like to be in Melbournes review of the game this morning.

I wonder who talks to Viney about his last quarter? While his side gives up 5 unanswered goals he's running around telling Richmond players that they're wankers who don't know how to grab the ball. Maybe go get it yourself young man, maybe lead from the front.


He is bog average but we all know why Richmond won.

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Most times David King is a flog but he made a comment earlier in the week that was said a few times on here as well, that Viney just needs to get his hands on the pill and a bit less angry.
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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:19 pm

stan wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
Booney wrote:Would like to be in Melbournes review of the game this morning.

I wonder who talks to Viney about his last quarter? While his side gives up 5 unanswered goals he's running around telling Richmond players that they're wankers who don't know how to grab the ball. Maybe go get it yourself young man, maybe lead from the front.


He is bog average but we all know why Richmond won.

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Most times David King is a flog but he made a comment earlier in the week that was said a few times on here as well, that Viney just needs to get his hands on the pill and a bit less angry.


He is severely limited. Him and Tyson. Watch closely.

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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby Booney » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:28 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
He is severely limited. Him and Tyson. Watch closely.

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You won't see Viney do the things the best mids do, take pack marks, kick long running goals, win inside and outside ball. You'll see him wins lots of inside ball, tackle, bullock, yap-yap-yap. I agree 100%, he's very talented in some parts of the game, in others he falls well short of the elite.
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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:29 pm

Booney wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
He is severely limited. Him and Tyson. Watch closely.

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You won't see Viney do the things the best mids do, take pack marks, kick long running goals, win inside and outside ball. You'll see him wins lots of inside ball, tackle, bullock, yap-yap-yap. I agree 100%, he's very talented in some parts of the game, in others he falls well short of the elite.


He has no pace. He has Toumpas-like awareness and decision making and he can't kick straight. He's tough and cracks in, but that's about it.

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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby Corona Man » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:31 pm

Toumpas like awareness.... ouch!
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Re: AFL Round 5

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:53 pm

Corona Man wrote:Toumpas like awareness.... ouch!


I said the same about GHS but he's surprised me a bit this season. It's amazing what a bit of opportunity can do. We certainly pumped enough games into Caddy.

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