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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby JK » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:42 am

Suri wrote:
JK wrote:Most, if not all, at AFL headquarters and on the commission absolutely lauded Trigg and rated him massively as an administrator until the Tippett fiasco emerged.

Carlton might have seen an opportunity to pick up someone they think has the know-how at less $$ than would usually be commanded, because his value had taken a big drop?


I think that Trigg may look better than he actually is. At the Crows, I don't think he had to work hard for memberships, sponsorships, crowd numbers etc as they were always high. At Carlton he actually has to work his arse off to increase these parts of the footy club. A red flag for me was that people complained that they were ringing up Carlton to renew/become members and the phones were ringing out, so that cracked it and didn't sign up. Trigg even came out and said that they didn't put enough focus on the membership side of things.

Time will tell over the next few years if Trigg is worth it.


Fair call - He is probably now in the role where we will see his true colours. I can't stand the bloke, but for the sake of having a competitive Carlton I want the club to improve, meaning his performance will be quite important.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:51 am

Fwiw I always thought he was pretty good until the Tippett debacle. And then when he pulled a James Hird and refused to resign I lost the respect I had for him.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby stan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:51 pm

bennymacca wrote:Fwiw I always thought he was pretty good until the Tippett debacle. And then when he pulled a James Hird and refused to resign I lost the respect I had for him.

He did offer to resign. The Crows wouldn't accept it.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby gossipgirl » Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:01 pm

stan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Fwiw I always thought he was pretty good until the Tippett debacle. And then when he pulled a James Hird and refused to resign I lost the respect I had for him.

He did offer to resign. The Crows wouldn't accept it.


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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby bennymacca » Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:04 pm

stan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Fwiw I always thought he was pretty good until the Tippett debacle. And then when he pulled a James Hird and refused to resign I lost the respect I had for him.

He did offer to resign. The Crows wouldn't accept it.


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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:31 pm

JK wrote:Most, if not all, at AFL headquarters and on the commission absolutely lauded Trigg and rated him massively as an administrator until the Tippett fiasco emerged.

Carlton might have seen an opportunity to pick up someone they think has the know-how at less $$ than would usually be commanded, because his value had taken a big drop?


6-800k I heard
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby JK » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:34 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
JK wrote:Most, if not all, at AFL headquarters and on the commission absolutely lauded Trigg and rated him massively as an administrator until the Tippett fiasco emerged.

Carlton might have seen an opportunity to pick up someone they think has the know-how at less $$ than would usually be commanded, because his value had taken a big drop?


6-800k I heard


Well that faarks my theory
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby stan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:58 pm

bennymacca wrote:
stan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Fwiw I always thought he was pretty good until the Tippett debacle. And then when he pulled a James Hird and refused to resign I lost the respect I had for him.

He did offer to resign. The Crows wouldn't accept it.


nobody can stop you from walking out of a place.

He offered to resign but Chapman didn't want him to. So he stayed.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby stan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:59 pm

gossipgirl wrote:
stan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Fwiw I always thought he was pretty good until the Tippett debacle. And then when he pulled a James Hird and refused to resign I lost the respect I had for him.

He did offer to resign. The Crows wouldn't accept it.


there is no room for Facts on a witch hunt :D

Sorry its been a long day and I forgot where I was posting. [emoji6]
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby marbles » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:57 pm

Blues could get em this week
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby kneedeepinthehoopla » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:01 pm

marbles wrote:Blues could get em this week

Big chance
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby marbles » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:03 pm

kneedeepinthehoopla wrote:
marbles wrote:Blues could get em this week

Big chance


Especially with hartigan in for the crows lol ;) only kidding kyle
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Spargo » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:38 pm

marbles wrote:Blues could get em this week

Couldn't win if they started now.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby gadj1976 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:40 pm

So now that Malthouse is gone and Judd isn't part of the picture for 2016, it's time to look at what we can aim for.

On the chopping block for one reason or another are Watson, Ellard, Carazzo, Holman and possibly Curnow and Armfield. Hopefully Warnock gets moved on too. On top of that, Yarran and Henderson are being touted as trade bait or being head hunted.

Priorities, as I've said for the past nearly 10 years, a key back and forward and now a small goal kicking forward as well.

The problem we have is that we have zero salary cap space available given that we've signed Gibbs, Murphy and Thomas on long term deals. Alongside that, Jones and Tutt both got longer term deals than they deserved last draft/trade period. So we're looking to fill voids with lower key players from other clubs as well as getting decent draft picks (almost impossible).

So the ones I think we can get from other clubs to increase/better our list. Hurley and Carllsle (Ess), Walters (Freo), Sinclair (WCE), Stokes (Gee), Garland (Melb), Dixon (GC), Tarrant (NM). Obviously not all of them but we should have a crack at a few of them.

Each of them will have their reasons for staying and Carlton aren't exactly a club that is sought after so SOS is going to have to work hard to get anyone with any experience to us. Mind you, Barks is restoring some respect to the club which is good.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby marbles » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:31 pm

Dangerfield and Jake Lever to Carlton :)
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Jim05 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:43 pm

gadj1976 wrote:So now that Malthouse is gone and Judd isn't part of the picture for 2016, it's time to look at what we can aim for.

On the chopping block for one reason or another are Watson, Ellard, Carazzo, Holman and possibly Curnow and Armfield. Hopefully Warnock gets moved on too. On top of that, Yarran and Henderson are being touted as trade bait or being head hunted.

Priorities, as I've said for the past nearly 10 years, a key back and forward and now a small goal kicking forward as well.

The problem we have is that we have zero salary cap space available given that we've signed Gibbs, Murphy and Thomas on long term deals. Alongside that, Jones and Tutt both got longer term deals than they deserved last draft/trade period. So we're looking to fill voids with lower key players from other clubs as well as getting decent draft picks (almost impossible).

So the ones I think we can get from other clubs to increase/better our list. Hurley and Carllsle (Ess), Walters (Freo), Sinclair (WCE), Stokes (Gee), Garland (Melb), Dixon (GC), Tarrant (NM). Obviously not all of them but we should have a crack at a few of them.

Each of them will have their reasons for staying and Carlton aren't exactly a club that is sought after so SOS is going to have to work hard to get anyone with any experience to us. Mind you, Barks is restoring some respect to the club which is good.

Hurley signed until 2017 on big coin.
Carlisle's contract up at end of this year, Hawks were keen last year. Im OS currently but before I left there was talk the club was in talks with him over a new 5 year $3.5m deal
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby beef » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:28 am

Stokes is the only one you could get "cheap" but being probably his last contract he'd want more money for his retirement fund. Walters is a gun who would probably demand $700k, Tarrant and Dixon similar as bigs dont grow on trees, however Dixon would be the one as his price may go down slightly with his off field issues recently. The major issue i see is we dont have anything to offer other clubs. Everyone you mentioned would be lucky to get a third round draft pick for. Only Cripps and Menzel have any currency at the trade table and if we give them up i'd be very upset and surprised, as far as im concerned everyone else is up for trade but no point making a deal just for the sake of it if it doesnt better Carlton. Way too many blokes in the side that up to AFL standard. Cant understand why you would go after Jacksch so hard and then play him in the VFL, surely he gets given a game for the rest of the season to see if he is up to it. Jones and Tutt were horrible pick ups and the most upsetting thing about Judd going off on Saturday was not that he was gone but that Tutt came on, Judd on one leg would've been better.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby helicopterking » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:34 am

beef wrote:Stokes is the only one you could get "cheap" but being probably his last contract he'd want more money for his retirement fund. Walters is a gun who would probably demand $700k, Tarrant and Dixon similar as bigs dont grow on trees, however Dixon would be the one as his price may go down slightly with his off field issues recently. The major issue i see is we dont have anything to offer other clubs. Everyone you mentioned would be lucky to get a third round draft pick for. Only Cripps and Menzel have any currency at the trade table and if we give them up i'd be very upset and surprised, as far as im concerned everyone else is up for trade but no point making a deal just for the sake of it if it doesnt better Carlton. Way too many blokes in the side that up to AFL standard. Cant understand why you would go after Jacksch so hard and then play him in the VFL, surely he gets given a game for the rest of the season to see if he is up to it. Jones and Tutt were horrible pick ups and the most upsetting thing about Judd going off on Saturday was not that he was gone but that Tutt came on, Judd on one leg would've been better.


Your right, you don't have a lot to trade.
Go to draft, make sure you get it right. You do not want to trade your picks. I'd start planning for 4/5 years time, no way would trade for anyone over the age of 26.
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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:36 pm

You can have Stokes. Can't remember the last time he genuinely impacted a game.

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Re: Carlton 2015

Postby MatteeG » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:19 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:You can have Stokes. Can't remember the last time he genuinely impacted a game.

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Reckon he played a good final for the Eagles in the early 2000s... 8)
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