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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby Booney » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:53 am

Menzel has class to burn, but there's massive risk associated with him.

He'll be 26 in September so he's got 5 or 6 year ahead of him. Would need to be on Ports terms with him wanting out, I wouldn't be knocking on Geelongs door.
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:13 am

Jim05 wrote:Talk on SEN that Fyfe is about to announce a long term extension at Freo

Hair?
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby Booney » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:17 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Talk on SEN that Fyfe is about to announce a long term extension at Freo

Hair?


He said long term, not long perm.
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:24 am

Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Talk on SEN that Fyfe is about to announce a long term extension at Freo

Hair?


He said long term, not long perm.

I only seen extensions.
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby bennymacca » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:34 pm

Spargo wrote:Menzel leaves Lynch & McGovern for dead.


Wow. Not even close
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby Bum Crack » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:55 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Spargo wrote:Menzel leaves Lynch & McGovern for dead.


Wow. Not even close

We'll swap Menzel and Stanley for Lynch and McGovern. That'd be a fair swap I reckon lol
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:01 pm

Menzel has talent but his mobility has been heavily sacrificed due to his knee injuries. No knee injuries he easily leaves Lynch and McGovern behind but a harsher call on Gov whose best football is well and truly in front of him. I think Menz could have been great but he will only ever be serviceable in my view. If someone was to pay overs for him I wouldn't mind. We really need a mobile small forward who applies pressure in the forward 50 and can match Menz' goal output.

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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby Bum Crack » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:07 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Menzel has talent but his mobility has been heavily sacrificed due to his knee injuries. No knee injuries he easily leaves Lynch and McGovern behind but a harsher call on Gov whose best football is well and truly in front of him. I think Menz could have been great but he will only ever be serviceable in my view. If someone was to pay overs for him I wouldn't mind. We really need a mobile small forward who applies pressure in the forward 50 and can match Menz' goal output.

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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:12 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Menzel has talent but his mobility has been heavily sacrificed due to his knee injuries. No knee injuries he easily leaves Lynch and McGovern behind but a harsher call on Gov whose best football is well and truly in front of him. I think Menz could have been great but he will only ever be serviceable in my view. If someone was to pay overs for him I wouldn't mind. We really need a mobile small forward who applies pressure in the forward 50 and can match Menz' goal output.

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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby bennymacca » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:36 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Menzel has talent but his mobility has been heavily sacrificed due to his knee injuries. No knee injuries he easily leaves Lynch and McGovern behind but a harsher call on Gov whose best football is well and truly in front of him. I think Menz could have been great but he will only ever be serviceable in my view. If someone was to pay overs for him I wouldn't mind. We really need a mobile small forward who applies pressure in the forward 50 and can match Menz' goal output.

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yeah agree with this.

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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby valleys07 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:05 pm

Booney wrote:Menzel has class to burn, but there's massive risk associated with him.

He'll be 26 in September so he's got 5 or 6 year ahead of him. Would need to be on Ports terms with him wanting out, I wouldn't be knocking on Geelongs door.


Wouldn't even entertain.

Pittard is expendable, so look to FA compo (late first round/early 2nd round pick) and hit the draft.
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:43 pm

Boak for Menzel
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby cracka » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:47 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Menzel has talent but his mobility has been heavily sacrificed due to his knee injuries. No knee injuries he easily leaves Lynch and McGovern behind but a harsher call on Gov whose best football is well and truly in front of him. I think Menz could have been great but he will only ever be serviceable in my view. If someone was to pay overs for him I wouldn't mind. We really need a mobile small forward who applies pressure in the forward 50 and can match Menz' goal output.

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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:00 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Boak for Menzel


Don't rate Boak at all.

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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby morell » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:41 pm

valleys07 wrote:
Booney wrote:Menzel has class to burn, but there's massive risk associated with him.

He'll be 26 in September so he's got 5 or 6 year ahead of him. Would need to be on Ports terms with him wanting out, I wouldn't be knocking on Geelongs door.


Wouldn't even entertain.

Pittard is expendable, so look to FA compo (late first round/early 2nd round pick) and hit the draft.
He slots in nicely to our forward line I reckon. We don't really have decent medium sized forwards - in my mind hes a significant upgrade on Aaron Young.

The Pittard compo has a huge variance. If it's an end of second rounder, yep, come on board Menzel. If it's an end of first rounder, nah, we'd want to keep that thanks.
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby valleys07 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:50 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Boak for Menzel


Don't rate Boak at all.

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Would be an excellent 3rd midfielder at the Cats IMO. Problem with Trav is, he can't impact on the outside the way he used to. At the Cats, where blokes like Danger, Duncan and co. can impact the outside, Trav's sole responsibility would be to win the contested cod and extract.

To Trav's detriment at Port, he doesn't have the impact up forward that is needed of him for the role he plays.
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby The Bedge » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:55 pm

valleys07 wrote:Would be an excellent 3rd midfielder at the Cats IMO. Problem with Trav is, he can't impact on the outside the way he used to. At the Cats, where blokes like Danger, Duncan and co. can impact the outside, Trav's sole responsibility would be to win the contested cod and extract.

To Trav's detriment at Port, he doesn't have the impact up forward that is needed of him for the role he plays.

Is this an indication the Port faithful are losing interest and faith in their skipper?
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby valleys07 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:57 pm

morell wrote:
valleys07 wrote:
Booney wrote:Menzel has class to burn, but there's massive risk associated with him.

He'll be 26 in September so he's got 5 or 6 year ahead of him. Would need to be on Ports terms with him wanting out, I wouldn't be knocking on Geelongs door.


Wouldn't even entertain.

Pittard is expendable, so look to FA compo (late first round/early 2nd round pick) and hit the draft.
He slots in nicely to our forward line I reckon. We don't really have decent medium sized forwards - in my mind hes a significant upgrade on Aaron Young.

The Pittard compo has a huge variance. If it's an end of second rounder, yep, come on board Menzel. If it's an end of first rounder, nah, we'd want to keep that thanks.


All will be revealed once the championships are done, and we can get a better idea of the midfield talent available in this years pool.

If we were in a position to trade Pittard for a late first rounder- I would absolutely jump all over that. Hypothetically we were able to secure this pick- we could look to pick up a quality outside mid/small forward in this years draft (Jack Higgins or Patrick Naish- albeit the latter is a potential F/S selection with Richmond, and I don't think Higgins will fall that far) which might just enable us to draft a Menzel type without the injury history, or if we were to draft a quality outside mid, we may have the luxury of being able to play Wingard and Gray up forward in tandem.
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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby morell » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:58 pm

Zartan wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Would be an excellent 3rd midfielder at the Cats IMO. Problem with Trav is, he can't impact on the outside the way he used to. At the Cats, where blokes like Danger, Duncan and co. can impact the outside, Trav's sole responsibility would be to win the contested cod and extract.

To Trav's detriment at Port, he doesn't have the impact up forward that is needed of him for the role he plays.

Is this an indication the Port faithful are losing interest and faith in their skipper?

Sort of. Needs to be replaced as skipper in the next year or so.

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Re: 2017 AFL Season

Postby morell » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:59 pm

valleys07 wrote:
morell wrote:
valleys07 wrote:
Booney wrote:Menzel has class to burn, but there's massive risk associated with him.

He'll be 26 in September so he's got 5 or 6 year ahead of him. Would need to be on Ports terms with him wanting out, I wouldn't be knocking on Geelongs door.


Wouldn't even entertain.

Pittard is expendable, so look to FA compo (late first round/early 2nd round pick) and hit the draft.
He slots in nicely to our forward line I reckon. We don't really have decent medium sized forwards - in my mind hes a significant upgrade on Aaron Young.

The Pittard compo has a huge variance. If it's an end of second rounder, yep, come on board Menzel. If it's an end of first rounder, nah, we'd want to keep that thanks.


All will be revealed once the championships are done, and we can get a better idea of the midfield talent available in this years pool.

If we were in a position to trade Pittard for a late first rounder- I would absolutely jump all over that. Hypothetically we were able to secure this pick- we could look to pick up a quality outside mid/small forward in this years draft (Jack Higgins or Patrick Naish- albeit the latter is a potential F/S selection with Richmond, and I don't think Higgins will fall that far) which might just enable us to draft a Menzel type without the injury history, or if we were to draft a quality outside mid, we may have the luxury of being able to play Wingard and Gray up forward in tandem.
Totally agree.

Pittard potentially wanting out is a blessing in disguise. Although I have heard he wants to sign. So who knows.
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