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Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:50 pm
by whufc
tigerpie wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Am I missing it, how long is the suspension?
Minimum 3 months....if it can be proved that it was taken out of competition.

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Did he not test positive on game day?
Pretty sure that's in competition.


How long would something like coke stay in the system to be tested as being 'in competition'

Given how early players have to get to the ground these days im presuming he has had to take it somewhere in the changerooms for it to have an affect by the time the game comes along. Presuming he is taking it for increased game day performance rather than just recreational abuse.

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:23 pm
by Mr Beefy
whufc wrote:
tigerpie wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Am I missing it, how long is the suspension?
Minimum 3 months....if it can be proved that it was taken out of competition.

Sent from my SM-A546E using Tapatalk

Did he not test positive on game day?
Pretty sure that's in competition.


How long would something like coke stay in the system to be tested as being 'in competition'

Given how early players have to get to the ground these days im presuming he has had to take it somewhere in the changerooms for it to have an affect by the time the game comes along. Presuming he is taking it for increased game day performance rather than just recreational abuse.

A lot of presumptions there
AFL rules dictate that the “in-competition” period starts at “11:59pm on the day before a competition in which the athlete is scheduled to participate through the end of such competition and the sample collection process’’.

It seems it is detectable for 2 days. He might have had some on the Friday night before the Sunday 2:50pm game, if it was before midnight Sat night he took it, then it isn't "in competition"

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:25 pm
by tigerpie
whufc wrote:
tigerpie wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Am I missing it, how long is the suspension?
Minimum 3 months....if it can be proved that it was taken out of competition.

Sent from my SM-A546E using Tapatalk

Did he not test positive on game day?
Pretty sure that's in competition.


How long would something like coke stay in the system to be tested as being 'in competition'

Given how early players have to get to the ground these days im presuming he has had to take it somewhere in the changerooms for it to have an affect by the time the game comes along. Presuming he is taking it for increased game day performance rather than just recreational abuse.

Can stay in your system for 2-3 days.
There's no way he's taking it game day surely.
I'm thinking a night out the night before or the night before that.

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:28 pm
by whufc
Thats what i was trying to understand, so it is possible he is a recreational user who happened to be busted on game day.

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:43 pm
by tigerpie
My questions are if you test positive on game day is that classed as in competition?
Let's say he says he had a line on the Friday night does he have to get someone to say he witnessed him doing it as proof?
Is it that easy?
Any mate of his is going to say that.

Thomas and Keefe got 2 years for testing positive for clenbutorol in February so I'm assuming he's gone for at least that.

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:19 pm
by JK
You’d have thought the Melbourne officials might have noticed things were a bit off when he did his pregame routine in the disabled toilet

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:37 pm
by Armchair expert
A rewriting of the AFL’s anti-doping code in 2021 stipulated that an athlete who tests positive in-competition to a “substance of abuse”, which includes cocaine, could be banned for just three months if the athlete can prove the substance was used out of competition and was “unrelated to sporting performance”.

Also under the AFL’s anti-doping code, if the player can prove the violation was not intentional or there are other circumstances or completes a treatment program approved by AFL, the ban could be as little as a month.


https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/ ... 1197c0a6a0

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:46 pm
by daysofourlives
Funny how its always no names that get caught.
Never an absolute star of the game.
But we know the AFL does everything above board, they would never hide anything. Just a coincidence

Is this the culture Goodwin speaks of ad nauseum?

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:48 pm
by carey
Spot on.

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:00 pm
by tigerpie
daysofourlives wrote:Funny how its always no names that get caught.
Never an absolute star of the game.
But we know the AFL does everything above board, they would never hide anything. Just a coincidence

Is this the culture Goodwin speaks of ad nauseum?

There's a reason they're absolute stars....they look after themselves off field.
Not doing lines or going to the races the night before a grand final.
More ridiculous conspiracy theories from you Daisy that doesn't surprise me.
They do test the stars.....Dane Swan was getting piss tested at 6 am the morning after a game regularly.

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:32 am
by JK
tigerpie wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Funny how its always no names that get caught.
Never an absolute star of the game.
But we know the AFL does everything above board, they would never hide anything. Just a coincidence

Is this the culture Goodwin speaks of ad nauseum?

There's a reason they're absolute stars....they look after themselves off field.
Not doing lines or going to the races the night before a grand final.
More ridiculous conspiracy theories from you Daisy that doesn't surprise me.
They do test the stars.....Dane Swan was getting piss tested at 6 am the morning after a game regularly.


The reason they’re stars is because they’re exceptionally talented. Kidding if you don’t think plenty of them partake in a toot

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:16 am
by Bum Crack
tigerpie wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Funny how its always no names that get caught.
Never an absolute star of the game.
But we know the AFL does everything above board, they would never hide anything. Just a coincidence

Is this the culture Goodwin speaks of ad nauseum?

There's a reason they're absolute stars....they look after themselves off field.
Not doing lines or going to the races the night before a grand final.
More ridiculous conspiracy theories from you Daisy that doesn't surprise me.
They do test the stars.....Dane Swan was getting piss tested at 6 am the morning after a game regularly.

I can guarantee there are plenty of stars who don't mind a couple of nose beers don't you worry about that.

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:20 am
by Zelezny Chucks
LOL imagine using Dane Swan as an example of a clean star

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:30 am
by Booney
Zelezny Chucks wrote:LOL imagine using Dane Swan as an example of a clean star


Of all the choices. :lol:

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:44 am
by am Bays
tigerpie wrote:They do test the stars.....Dane Swan was getting piss tested at 6 am the morning after a game regularly.


Dane Swan also had "cockatoos" set up to warm him to stay away from Sunday morning recovery if ASADA were there...

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:11 am
by tigerpie
Booney wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:LOL imagine using Dane Swan as an example of a clean star


Of all the choices. :lol:

My comment was in reference to the statement that they don't test the stars.
I didn't say he was clean did I?
I said he was a star that got hounded by the testers, even when he was overseas on holidays.
He has never tested positive.

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:19 am
by Brodlach
tigerpie wrote:
Booney wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:LOL imagine using Dane Swan as an example of a clean star


Of all the choices. :lol:

My comment was in reference to the statement that they don't test the stars.
I didn't say he was clean did I?
I said he was a star that got hounded by the testers, even when he was overseas on holidays.
He has never tested positive.


I don’t think his point was they don’t test stars it was more so if they are found to be positive as he feels the AFL sweeps those under the mat

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:30 am
by Lightning McQueen
tigerpie wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Funny how its always no names that get caught.
Never an absolute star of the game.
But we know the AFL does everything above board, they would never hide anything. Just a coincidence

Is this the culture Goodwin speaks of ad nauseum?

There's a reason they're absolute stars....they look after themselves off field.
Not doing lines or going to the races the night before a grand final.
More ridiculous conspiracy theories from you Daisy that doesn't surprise me.
They do test the stars.....Dane Swan was getting piss tested at 6 am the morning after a game regularly.

So only one sleep before his next game?

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:51 am
by Booney
tigerpie wrote:
Booney wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:LOL imagine using Dane Swan as an example of a clean star


Of all the choices. :lol:

My comment was in reference to the statement that they don't test the stars.
I didn't say he was clean did I?
I said he was a star that got hounded by the testers, even when he was overseas on holidays.
He has never tested positive.


We don't know that.

Smith was caught by Sport Integrity Australia, not the AFL, that's how we know.

Hollands was caught by police, not the AFL, that's how we know.

Players who test positive in AFL testing are not named.

Re: AFL Season 2023

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:42 pm
by tigerpie
We do know that Booney.
He's said in the media he's never tested positive.
Now you'd think someone from the inside would've disputed that by now for sure.
Like blowies on dog shit the ambulance chasers would be all over it.

I know he's no clean skin but the fact is he's a star that was hounded yet never peed colours.