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Re: Crows 2015

Postby bennymacca » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:21 pm

HH3 wrote:Ok, so if Geelong are serious, they should offer the longest term deal they're comfortable with, because I doubt the Crows would try to match that. Its a big risk on a guy that doesnt wanna be there.


its a paper exercise, he wont stay at the club anyway, but it will just give them the bargaining power for a trade

Wedgie wrote:Geelong have Kelly, Johnno, Stokes, Rivers and McIntoshs salaries minus Motlops increase to deal with.
Adelaide have Dangerfields current salary minus several increased offers this year in re-signs.
If Geelong wanted to the Crows wouldn't be able to even get close to Geelongs offer. That's common sense and obvious.
But as mentioned the Cats pay structure throws a spanner in that.
They could pay Selwood more and up Dangers offer that way but traditionally Geelong are one of the fairer clubs to deal with in transfers and because of this I think a reasonably fair trade will be made despite the fact Geelong could score him for nothing.


yeah agree that geelong are usually pretty good operators with this sort of stuff.

With the crows having 18 months to prepare i still dont reckon geelong will make an offer that the crows couldnt match.

I know that games arent won in the media, but Geelong would kick some PR goals if they offered up a halfway decent trade instead of being pricks about it (even though they are entitled to, not saying that)
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby HH3 » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:22 pm

Booney wrote:
HH3 wrote:Is it allowed to be done yet?

Isn't it all meant to be done during the trade period?


Only if you believe the Easter Bunny and Father Christmas pay income tax. ;)


I know they do deals behind the scenes, but is it technically legal? And is that why its all "my source told me" sort of stuff instead of actually being announced.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Fricky » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:23 pm

HH3 wrote:
Booney wrote:
HH3 wrote:Is it allowed to be done yet?

Isn't it all meant to be done during the trade period?


Only if you believe the Easter Bunny and Father Christmas pay income tax. ;)


I know they do deals behind the scenes, but is it technically legal? And is that why its all "my source told me" sort of stuff instead of actually being announced.


Agreements can be made as long as nothing has been signed, putting pen to paper is the illegal bit. Seems that the Crows, Geelong and Danger have all verbally agreed to the deal and are just waiting for the trade period to start.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Booney » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:23 pm

Would love to know what Dangerfield and his camp would want. Caro ( if she can be believed, and I think quite often she can ) thinks Dangerfield's camp would prefer Adelaide to just let him walk. I highly doubt that will happen.

You don't let a player of his ilk walk scott free, or, for pick #15 ( +/- )
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby bennymacca » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:26 pm

Booney wrote:Would love to know what Dangerfield and his camp would want. Caro ( if she can be believed, and I think quite often she can ) thinks Dangerfield's camp would prefer Adelaide to just let him walk. I highly doubt that will happen.

You don't let a player of his ilk walk scott free, or, for pick #15 ( +/- )


would have thought danger wouldnt really care, thats between the clubs.

Danger has been a great servant of the club, in a weird sense I respect him more even though it is almost certain he leaves my club because of how he has handled himself. Honestly no animosity whatsoever, assuming he goes to Geelong that is :D
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Booney » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:27 pm

Suri wrote:
HH3 wrote:
Booney wrote:
HH3 wrote:Is it allowed to be done yet?
Isn't it all meant to be done during the trade period?

Only if you believe the Easter Bunny and Father Christmas pay income tax. ;)

I know they do deals behind the scenes, but is it technically legal? And is that why its all "my source told me" sort of stuff instead of actually being announced.

Agreements can be made as long as nothing has been signed, putting pen to paper is the illegal bit. Seems that the Crows, Geelong and Danger have all verbally agreed to the deal and are just waiting for the trade period to start.


Well yes, and no.

Clubs can contact player agents enquiring about contracted players, but it's "meant" to be that agents can't table something to the player until the end of the season. It's clearly not the case.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Booney » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:28 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Booney wrote:Would love to know what Dangerfield and his camp would want. Caro ( if she can be believed, and I think quite often she can ) thinks Dangerfield's camp would prefer Adelaide to just let him walk. I highly doubt that will happen.

You don't let a player of his ilk walk scott free, or, for pick #15 ( +/- )


would have thought danger wouldnt really care, thats between the clubs.

Danger has been a great servant of the club, in a weird sense I respect him more even though it is almost certain he leaves my club because of how he has handled himself. Honestly no animosity whatsoever, assuming he goes to Geelong that is :D


I think he, being him, would. If Adelaide play hard ball it "could" be seen as them not sending him off with their best wishes. ie - We know you're leaving, we'll match the offer regardless and make it harder for Geelong to get you.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Wedgie » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:31 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Booney wrote:Would love to know what Dangerfield and his camp would want. Caro ( if she can be believed, and I think quite often she can ) thinks Dangerfield's camp would prefer Adelaide to just let him walk. I highly doubt that will happen.

You don't let a player of his ilk walk scott free, or, for pick #15 ( +/- )


would have thought danger wouldnt really care, thats between the clubs.

Danger has been a great servant of the club, in a weird sense I respect him more even though it is almost certain he leaves my club because of how he has handled himself. Honestly no animosity whatsoever, assuming he goes to Geelong that is :D

Same feelings I had with Ablett.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Booney » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:32 pm

Wedgie wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Booney wrote:Would love to know what Dangerfield and his camp would want. Caro ( if she can be believed, and I think quite often she can ) thinks Dangerfield's camp would prefer Adelaide to just let him walk. I highly doubt that will happen.

You don't let a player of his ilk walk scott free, or, for pick #15 ( +/- )


would have thought danger wouldnt really care, thats between the clubs.

Danger has been a great servant of the club, in a weird sense I respect him more even though it is almost certain he leaves my club because of how he has handled himself. Honestly no animosity whatsoever, assuming he goes to Geelong that is :D

Same feelings I had with Ablett.


Yep, you certainly can't question the commitment both of these blokes ( and Buddy ) showed to the cause despite pretty well knowing they were on the move.

Lachie Henderson, Lewis Jetta and several others could learn from this.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby bennymacca » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:34 pm

Wedgie wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Booney wrote:Would love to know what Dangerfield and his camp would want. Caro ( if she can be believed, and I think quite often she can ) thinks Dangerfield's camp would prefer Adelaide to just let him walk. I highly doubt that will happen.

You don't let a player of his ilk walk scott free, or, for pick #15 ( +/- )


would have thought danger wouldnt really care, thats between the clubs.

Danger has been a great servant of the club, in a weird sense I respect him more even though it is almost certain he leaves my club because of how he has handled himself. Honestly no animosity whatsoever, assuming he goes to Geelong that is :D

Same feelings I had with Ablett.


yeah agree, even though Ablett was for different reasons ($$$).

I dont really mind any player leaving if they are open and honest about the reasons.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:34 pm

Booney wrote:
Yep, you certainly can't question the commitment both of these blokes ( and Buddy ) showed to the cause despite pretty well knowing they were on the move.

Lachie Henderson, Lewis Jetta and several others could learn from this.

I wouldn't rate Buddy's integrity in the same echelon as Paddy or Gazza's.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Browny25 » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:35 pm

I know its going to happen, and i'll be shattered
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:36 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Booney wrote:Would love to know what Dangerfield and his camp would want. Caro ( if she can be believed, and I think quite often she can ) thinks Dangerfield's camp would prefer Adelaide to just let him walk. I highly doubt that will happen.

You don't let a player of his ilk walk scott free, or, for pick #15 ( +/- )


would have thought danger wouldnt really care, thats between the clubs.

Danger has been a great servant of the club, in a weird sense I respect him more even though it is almost certain he leaves my club because of how he has handled himself. Honestly no animosity whatsoever, assuming he goes to Geelong that is :D

Same feelings I had with Ablett.


yeah agree, even though Ablett was for different reasons ($$$).

I dont really mind any player leaving if they are open and honest about the reasons.


Ablett had achieved everything he could at Geelong, I respect him for leaving a winning culture to try and promote the game in a rugby populated region, the AFL wanted him to go and I bet it was bloody hard for him to make that decision, of course they were going to have to throw treasure chests at him as a carrot, without him, the Suns would probably have folded already.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:38 pm

Browny25 wrote:I know its going to happen, and i'll be shattered

Better to of had and lost than to of never had at all.

This is why I don't agree with the AFL drafting system, there's no real fix but sooner or later players will want to go home.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby bennymacca » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:38 pm

Browny25 wrote:I know its going to happen, and i'll be shattered


ill be disappointed for sure, but I wont be losing any respect for Paddy
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby bennymacca » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:39 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Browny25 wrote:I know its going to happen, and i'll be shattered

Better to of had and lost than to of never had at all.

This is why I don't agree with the AFL drafting system, there's no real fix but sooner or later players will want to go home.


I was at the pub so im not sure if i heard correctly, but did they say on Friday night that there was more victorians in the crows team than there was in the Hawks team? It was some stat like that.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:43 pm

Adelaide Crows Season 2015 Players Crows Past Players
No Name Games Age Date of Birth Height Weight Origin Position
21 Atkins, Rory 8 21yr 2mth 12 Jul 1994 185cm 79kg Calder Cannons Midfield
18 Betts, Eddie 229 28yr 9mth 26 Nov 1986 173cm 73kg Calder Cannons Forward

16 Brown, Luke 69 22yr 11mth 22 Sep 1992 181cm 89kg Norwood Defender
23 Cameron, Charlie 29 21yr 2mth 5 Jul 1994 183cm 72kg Swan Districts Forward
25 Cheney, Kyle 53 26yr 25 Aug 1989 187cm 90kg North Ballarat Rebels Defender
2 Crouch, Brad 25 21yr 8mth 14 Jan 1994 186cm 84kg North Ballarat Rebels Midfield
44 Crouch, Matt 25 20yr 5mth 21 Apr 1995 180cm 78kg North Ballarat Rebels Midfield
32 Dangerfield, Patrick 154 25yr 5mth 5 Apr 1990 185cm 90kg Geelong Falcons Midfield
38 Dear, Harry 0 19yr 1mth 18 Aug 1996 197cm 98kg Sandringham Dragons Forward
26 Douglas, Richard 171 28yr 7mth 6 Feb 1987 180cm 79kg Calder Cannons Midfield

28 Ellis-Yolmen, Cameron 12 22yr 7mth 28 Jan 1993 189cm 94kg Woodville-West Torrens Midfield
8 Grigg, Mitchell 20 22yr 8mth 2 Jan 1993 182cm 81kg Norwood Midfield
Forward
15 Hartigan, Kyle 28 23yr 10mth 7 Nov 1991 194cm 94kg - Defender
45 Henderson, Ricky 81 27yr 11 Sep 1988 188cm 91kg Trentham Defender
24 Jacobs, Sam 127 27yr 5mth 10 Apr 1988 202cm 101kg Woodville West Torrens Ruck
10 Jaensch, Matthew 74 26yr 18 Sep 1989 180cm 82kg Sturt Defender
4 Jenkins, Josh 69 26yr 7mth 8 Feb 1989 198cm 104kg Frankston Forward
47 Kelly, Jake (R) 10 20yr 8mth 21 Jan 1995 189cm 84kg Oakleigh Chargers Defender
17 Kerridge, Sam 27 22yr 4mth 26 Apr 1993 188cm 85kg Bendigo Pioneers Midfield
Forward

39 Knight, Riley 11 20yr 5mth 27 Mar 1995 180cm 72kg Woodville West Torrens Midfield
Forward
29 Laird, Rory 57 21yr 8mth 29 Dec 1993 178cm 77kg West Adelaide Defender
6 Lever, Jake 12 19yr 6mth 5 Mar 1996 194cm 85kg Calder Cannons Defender
40 Lowden, Luke 1 24yr 6mth 22 Feb 1991 204cm 102kg Sandringham Dragons Ruck
27 Lynch, Tom 60 25yr 15 Sep 1990 191cm 87kg Sandringham Dragons Forward
31 Lyons, Jarryd 35 23yr 1mth 22 Jul 1992 184cm 82kg Sandringham Dragons Midfield
Forward
14 MacKay, David 144 27yr 1mth 25 Jul 1988 181cm 80kg Oakleigh Midfield

36 Martin, Brodie 38 26yr 10mth 6 Nov 1988 180cm 82kg Sturt Midfield
Forward
41 McGovern, Mitch 0 20yr 11mth 11 Oct 1994 191cm 84kg Claremont Forward
43 O'Brien, Reilly (R) 0 20yr 1mth 20 Aug 1995 201cm 98kg Calder Cannons Forward
Ruck
30 Osborn, Jack (R) 0 25yr 4mth 29 Apr 1990 205cm 107kg Gws Ruck
22 Otten, Andy 79 26yr 4mth 15 May 1989 192cm 91kg Oakleigh Chargers Defender
1 Podsiadly, James 104 34yr 10 Sep 1981 193cm 100kg Geelong Forward

46 Ramsey, Keenan (R) 0 19yr 23 Aug 1996 192cm 86kg Port Adelaide Defender
3 Reilly, Brent 203 31yr 10mth 12 Nov 1983 183cm 85kg Calder Cannons Defender
34 Shaw, Sam 24 24yr 5mth 5 Apr 1991 193cm 90kg Oakleigh Chargers Defender
20 Siggins, Sam 0 21yr 6mth 20 Mar 1994 195cm 88kg Lauderdale Defender
9 Sloane, Rory 118 25yr 6mth 17 Mar 1990 183cm 81kg Eastern Ranges Midfield

33 Smith, Brodie 97 23yr 8mth 14 Jan 1992 189cm 82kg Woodville West Torrens Defender
Midfield
12 Talia, Daniel 98 23yr 11mth 2 Oct 1991 195cm 97kg Calder Cannons Defender
5 Thompson, Scott 285 32yr 6mth 14 Mar 1983 184cm 86kg Port Adelaide Midfield
7 Van Berlo, Nathan 202 29yr 3mth 6 Jun 1986 184cm 82kg West Perth Midfield
13 Walker, Taylor 107 25yr 4mth 25 Apr 1990 192cm 100kg Broken Hill North Forward
35 Wigg, Harrison 0 18yr 11mth 16 Oct 1996 179cm 75kg North Adelaide Defender
42 Wilson, Anthony (R) 0 23yr 1mth 2 Aug 1992 181cm 74kg Norwood Forward
11 Wright, Matthew 94 25yr 9mth 14 Dec 1989 178cm 76kg North Adelaide Midfield
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Booney » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:43 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
Yep, you certainly can't question the commitment both of these blokes ( and Buddy ) showed to the cause despite pretty well knowing they were on the move.

Lachie Henderson, Lewis Jetta and several others could learn from this.

I wouldn't rate Buddy's integrity in the same echelon as Paddy or Gazza's.


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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Booney » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:44 pm

With all this talk about it, can they stage manage it through and not announce it until after the Brownlow.....then, would Dangerfield want Grand Final week to be about him / Geelong / Adelaide?

I think they should announce it now, nobody would question him going to or being at the BnF or the Brownlow as an Adelaide Crow. Technically, he is a Crow until October 31 regardless.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:46 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
Yep, you certainly can't question the commitment both of these blokes ( and Buddy ) showed to the cause despite pretty well knowing they were on the move.

Lachie Henderson, Lewis Jetta and several others could learn from this.

I wouldn't rate Buddy's integrity in the same echelon as Paddy or Gazza's.

You kidding? He won a gf and was vital to it...
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